The FReeper Foxhole Profiles "A Hillside Near Khe Sanh" - June 26th, 2004

http://www.afa.org/magazine/valor/0785valor.asp ^

[snippy_about_it]

Thanks Light Speed. IMO, this is one war we should cover more of and just recently more is begining to be printed and that's a good thing.

...for some did fight to the last man on hill top firebases.

This is so true.

[Light Speed]

Hi snippy

Have had Freeper Foxhole threads make first page hit returns when Googling.

A great way to honor veterans and peak researchers attention : )

[snippy_about_it]

Yep, isn't it great! This is sometimes how we hear from authors or family members by freepmail from them googling. We think it's wonderful and helps spread the word about the sacrifices our veterans have made.

[SAMWolf]

Thanks for the book recommendation Light Speed.

[SAMWolf]

Afternoon DD.

Just got back from seening "The Notebook", What a tearjerker!

[SAMWolf]

Have had Freeper Foxhole threads make first page hit returns when Googling.

Oh Oh! Now Snippy will start charging for her autograph. :-)

[snippy_about_it]

Now Snippy will start charging for her autograph.

LOL. I don't think that will pay the rent!

[SAMWolf]

I don't think that will pay the rent!

It couldn't hurt.

[alfa6]

RE: #20...Ya, I thought I would have been done by last Christmas, Easter at the vary latest but noooooo.
Shoot I will be lucky to be finished by Labor Day, 2005.

Well only one more big project left, gotta put on the new roof. A few things ont the inside and I can get my final inspection from the fine folks at the building codes office.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

[SAMWolf]

Well only one more big project left, gotta put on the new roof.

I hated roofing work, always seemed top be the hpttest days of the year wehnever I did that work.

[PhilDragoo]

For every insertion like this one that was detected and stopped, dozens of others safely slipped past NVA lines to strike a wide range of targets and collect vital information. The number of MACV-SOG missions conducted with Special Forces reconnaissance teams into Laos and Cambodia was 452 in 1969. It was the most sustained American campaign of raiding, sabotage and intelligence-gathering waged on foreign soil in US military history. MACV-SOG's teams earned a global reputation as one of the most combat effective deep-penetration forces ever raised.

From MAYSEY, LARRY WAYNE

~~~

LAOS : PANHANDLE U.S., Royal Laotian, and VNAF aircraft continued their attacks on traffic along the Ho Chi Minh Trail. During 1967, B-52s flew 1,718 sorties in this area, almost triple their 1966 record. The major targets were trucks which had to be hunted down and destroyed one-by-one. This seemed to be irrational thinking to many Americans flying these combat missions for these trucks could have been destroyed en masse before, during, or after their unloading from the ocean freighters that had hauled them to North Vietnam if bombing of Haiphong had been permitted.

Note: I will be happy to fax the four-page story The Day It Became the Longest War by the Marine aide present at the White House meeting in November of 1965 at which Lyndon Baines Johnson told the Joint Chiefs no they would not be allowed to bomb Hanoi and mine Haiphong harbor.

How many American deaths did Johnson thereby insure would occur? Did he thereby assure our eventual defeat--albeit by the fifth column of Cronkite, Fonda and Kerry.

~~~

From Young's Park

From CH/HH-3 Jolly Green Giant

UH-1B with side mounting M134 minigun and seven-tube 2.75 inch rocket launcher on M21 armament subsystem.

U.S. ARMY HELICOPTER WEAPON SYSTEMS

From NICHOLS, HUBERT CAMPBELL, JR.

~~~

From the Why Did We Bother Department:

1917 1st American Expeditionary Force arrive in France during WW I

[Iris7]

This one reminds me of the defense of Hill 861A at Khe Sanh by Marines of 1/26 (This piece is from memory. I will look for source material, could not find any on net). This happened just earlier than Captain Young's story.

The Marines on 861A were wired in, with trenches and dugouts, and under routine artillery fire. The NVA came through the wire in a battalion attack, maybe 600 strong, supported by direct fire and mortars. The Marine position was overrun. There were about 90 Marines there that night.

Well, I will tell you how it turned out. There were 35 Marines wounded too bad to walk. There were seventeen who could get around. The rest were dead. All senior non-coms were dead. All officers. The seventeen walking wounded were all privates.

The NVA? This is the good part. They left hundreds of bodies, blood trails everywhere, tons of weapons and equipment and nothing else on Hill 861A. Those seventeen men had cleared the base of NVA in a night fight in the trenches, knife, fist, and gun (no exaggeration) and the NVA had enough and left. Those still alive, of course.

Bad part. There were a lot of Medals of Honor earned that night, I mean dozens. None were awarded.

Hill 861A makes Roark's Drift look like a game of patty-cake.

Took years for the story to become known, too many witnesses died, too many with their exploits unsung. Remember all officers and senior non-coms were killed. Nobody to write the citations, and Khe Sanh was a busy and dangerous place.

[SAMWolf]

Evening Phil Dragoo.

This seemed to be irrational thinking to many Americans flying these combat missions for these trucks could have been destroyed en masse before, during, or after their unloading from the ocean freighters that had hauled them to North Vietnam if bombing of Haiphong had been permitted.

It should seem like insanity to anyone. Only a politician could come up with such a stupid plan.

Not only once but twice in the last century did we save france's butt for all the good it did.

[SAMWolf]

Thanks for the story on Hill 861A. I'd be interested in the sources you have. I've only read general histories on Khe Sahn.

[Iris7]

As I recollect it is in du Hamel's Khe Sanh. Can't find my copy. Too many darn books in this house! Just am not a librarian by inclination!

[Iris7]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0891418105/qid=1 088318174/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-8545694-8435208?v=glance&s=books

looks interesting. In case there is no link, it is The Hill Fights : The First Battle of Khe Sanh by EDWARD F. MURPHY

Read Hammel in my last, not du Hamel. Amazon does not list it.

[SAMWolf]

Too many darn books in this house!

Thanks. I know that feeling.

[SAMWolf]

The Hill Fights : The First Battle of Khe Sanh by EDWARD F. MURPHY

Thanks Iris7

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!!