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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the Mosquito Fleet (PT Boats) - Aug. 22, 2005
www.dav.org ^ | Rob Lewis

Posted on 08/21/2005 9:22:12 PM PDT by SAMWolf



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Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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for all those serving their country at this time.


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PT Boats
The Story of the Mosquito Fleet

Like all great stories, those that are the mythology of PT boats in World War II are a fascinating blend of fact and fiction.

It's not surprising that the tales of PT boats still hold captive the imagination of history seekers today. Decades after nearly all of the Navy's operational Pacific-based PT boats were torched Viking-funeral style on the beaches of Samar Island in the Philippines in the days following Allied victory in the Pacific, the lore of Motor Torpedo boats is kept alive most notably by the greatest American mythology of the last century--the Kennedy presidency.

The PT boat towed down Pennsylvania Avenue at President Kennedy's inauguration in 1960 allowed him to visibly connect with his war hero image, even while ushering in a new generation of hope and prosperity with his youth and vigor. And when "Camelot" came crashing down with an assassin's bullet in 1963, only 20 years after the sinking of PT 109 near the Solomon Islands made its skipper a hero, PT boats became forever linked with JFK, one of the DAV's most famous members.

When the discovery of PT 109's wreckage made waves in newspapers late last year, it was not surprising to many PT boat veterans, even though they say the elements that made PT 109 so famous–individual heroics and high speed collisions–aren't typical of service in the "Mosquito Fleet."



"Kennedy made a big name for PT boats with the movie and his inaugural parade," said Warren Mills, a motor machinists mate on PTs 323 and 328 in the Pacific. "People used to joke around and call us 'glamour boats,' because we got a famous reputation for doing a pretty good job of minimizing enemy island traffic in the South Pacific."

This famous reputation began on March 11, 1942, with the heroic rescue of Gen. Douglas MacArthur from Corregidor as the Philippines fell to the Japanese. The 35-hour, 580-mile trip through the Japanese-held sea from Corregidor to Mindanao was skippered by Lt. John D. Bulkely on PT 41. Months later, Lt. Bulkely received the Medal of Honor for his daring voyage, but, more importantly, his heroism had given hope and spirit to a nation shell-shocked by the attack on Pearl Harbor.

When a triumphant MacArthur returned to reclaim the Philippines less than three years later, he would land ashore aboard PT 373. By this time, the number of PT boats in the Pacific had jumped from 18 to 212 vessels, despite earlier disdain from ranking Navy brass.


Tells story of MacArthur's escape from the Philippines on the RON 3 boats. This appeared only shortly after the incident.
Yachting Apr 42
Rudder May 42


Squadron 4 was designated as the PT fleet's training squadron by the Secretary of the Navy in 1942, and found a headquarters at Melville, R.I. The Motor Torpedo Boat Training Center at Melville used combat veterans as instructors to train both officers and enlisted men who would serve in all facets of PT service. By mid-1945, the center had trained more than 1,800 officers and 12,000 enlisted men.

The increase in boats and crewmen was in direct proportion to the frustration PT boats brought to the enemy in the Pacific, English Channel, and Mediterranean.

Called "green dragons" and "devil boats" by the Japanese, the PTs used a combination of gunfire and torpedoes in high seas hit-and-run operations, before zigzagging away behind a smokescreen. In contrast to the largely exaggerated claims of PT boat attacks on Japanese destroyers, the boats had really earned their keep in the Pacific fleet with successful attacks on Japanese barges and shore batteries.


The stories out of the Philippines are just getting into the magazines, and Elco is there with "In Action at Manila!", listing some of the PTs' exploits.
Yachting, Rudder Mar 42


The two standard boats were built by the Electric Launch Company (Elco), Bayonne, N.J., which made the 80-footers that saw duty mainly in the Pacific, and the Higgins Boat Company, New Orleans, La., which crafted the 78-footers used primarily in the Atlantic and Mediterranean. The plywood-hulled boats usually had crews of 12,Ð2 officers and 10 enlisted men, or "bluejackets," and were armed with four .50-caliber machine guns (sometimes other guns were added) and four torpedoes. PT boats were propelled to speeds of nearly 40 knots by three 1,200 horsepower Packard engines.

Every knot of speed the boats could muster was essential: There wasn't an ounce of armor on the boats, a fact that didn't escape John Ashworth, a motor machinist's mate on PTs 187 and 330.

Mr. Ashworth, a DAV life member from Tampa, Fla., was among thousands of young sailors who had heard the stories of glory and adventure in the Mosquito Fleet, but turned down the chance to volunteer for PT boat service when the opportunity was presented to him in boot camp. (This dispels the long-held falsehood that all PT boat servicemen volunteered for the duty, although nearly all skippers and officers were volunteers.) When he was selected for PT boat duty anyway, Mr. Ashworth reported for duty at the New York Navy Yard in Brooklyn captivated by tales of glory about the "Knights of the Sea."



"One day I boarded my boat and saw a gunner's mate cleaning a loaded .45-caliber pistol. It went off, but he wasn't hurt, thank God, but I noticed something that disturbed me," Mr. Ashworth recalled. "The bullet went through the deck and the rest of the boat, and exited through the hull. We had to rush to plug the leak and fix the hole.

"I started thinking about all the lead that would be flying at us over there, then I wondered what I had gotten myself into."

Warren Mills believed that the speed of the boats is what kept its crew from losing sleep.

"We could get away from a lot of things with our combination of speed and maneuverability," Mr. Mills said. "We spent a lot of nights blasting away at shore batteries and keeping Japanese barges from fortifying islands with their troops.

"It was a lot like a drive-by shooting. We'd zoom up to a barge and release our torpedoes, or even swing by and strafe them with our guns."


Now in the Solomons, the port gunner on a 77 footer is strafing a destroyer.
Yachting/Rudder Dec 42


But Mr. Mills also learned first-hand of the vulnerability of motor torpedo boats when speed was removed from the equation. Shortly after being transferred to PT 323 (he had literally drawn the shortest straw), MM3 Mills was below deck in his boat, which was sitting still in the waters of Leyte Gulf, when the general quarters bell sounded.

"I knew something was wrong because the alarm sounded, and we didn't start moving," Mr. Mills said. "What I didn't know was that four Japanese Zeros (fighter planes) had attacked, and our skipper and executive officer had been killed.

"We were just sitting ducks, dead in the water."

MM3 Mills immediately assisted the "fantail" gunner at the rear of the ship, and the surviving crew members were able to successfully repel the assault until a damaged Zero crashed into the PT boat. The suicide attack hit mid-ship, knocking several men into the water, but amazingly the only deaths were the two officers killed in the initial attack.


Action in the Slot
The Slot was the route from Bougainville to Guadalcanal, running between New Georgia and Choiseul Islands, the main invasion route for the Japanese Navy to run the Marines off Henderson Field. Also called Ironbottom Sound. Nightly, the Japanese would run reinforcements to Guadalcanal, and bombard the US Marines defending it. Our Navy would send out any available forces to try to stop them, in this case, a PT Boat.


"The water rushing in actually put out the fire in the engine room, which may have kept the boat from exploding," Mr. Mills recalled.

While the last-ditch suicide attacks proved costly to the PT boats, operating at night kept them safe from most aerial attacks. It was often the unseen dangers that haunted the Mosquito Fleet on their nocturnal voyages.

Often the greatest danger to PT boats was operating in shallow reef areas. Grounded boats, along with encounters with mines, were all too common on barge hunting and recon missions, and the night patrols, some as long as 300 miles, stripped the nerves of bluejackets and officers alike.


An American PT boat churns up a wake on patrol off of New Guinea, 1943.


During the day, the bluejackets got some sleep, made repairs, and prepared for the next night's mission. At the start of the war, a lack of PT bases led to the creation of PT tenders–floating mother ships where PT boats could get supplies, gasoline, messing, showers, electric and engine repairs. Some tenders even towed floating dry docks.

The heat of the South Pacific was dreadful, and PT boaters adapted by sleeping under makeshift tents on deck and altering their clothing to less-than-regulation standards.

"Most of the time, you'd find us in shorts and sandals only. Officers were the only guys who wore shirts," Mr. Mills said. "That didn't help our glamour boat reputation."

While the PT boats' success in the Pacific, especially during the long and bloody Solomon Islands campaign, has always garnered the most attention, the Mosquito Fleet also made its presence known in the Mediterranean and the English Channel, including duty off the Normandy coast during the D-Day invasion.


Some of the early Elcos (ex PTs 10-19) went to the Brits as "MTBs". They were outfitted a bit differently- single pair of British 21" torpedo tubes, a pair of dual Lewis 30's, and the aerials. They saw action in the Med, including at Tobruk.
Yachting Aug 42


"D-day was originally planned for June 5, so we departed on the fourth," said Shelton Bosley, a gunner's mate on PT 507, one of 12 PT boats in Squadron 34's D-day force. "We were lucky to be intercepted by a friendly destroyer and told of the delay."

"In the invasion, our PT boats were used to escort minesweepers on the western flank of the Normandy invasion," Mr. Bosley said.

Beyond D-day, the primary mission of PT boats on the European front of World War II was attacking surface ships and craft, and disrupting supply ships and troop movements. PT boats in Europe were also used to lay mines and to carry out intelligence work.

In Europe, the missions for PT boats often lasted as long as 10 days, which meant that the boats had to sacrifice the luxury of the cover of darkness. On these long missions, the boats were used to draw gunfire from shore batteries that would be pounded the next day by Allied ships.


Yachting/Rudder 8/44


"We went into the English Channel thinking U-boats would be our biggest menace, but minesweepers proved to be our main target," Mr. Bosley said. "We spent a lot of time near the heavily fortified Channel Islands trying to prevent Hitler from unloading supplies and troops."

On Aug. 16, 1944, six PT boats patrolling the Channel Islands, less than a mile off Jersey Island, found themselves in a confrontation with a German minesweeper in pea-soup fog and suffered one of their most horrible losses of the war.

Sixteen men from the group were killed, including nearly the entire crew of PT 509, which lost its skipper in the gunfight and accidentally rammed the German ship.

"The only survivor on the 509, John Page, later said that the stunned German crew just opened fire on the survivors in the PT boat, which was stuck in the side of the minesweeper," Mr. Bosley said. "Page had more than 30 wounds, but survived the attack."



John Page was taken prisoner aboard the enemy ship, where his wounds were treated. Later, a skilled German surgeon saved his life, and he remained a prisoner of war until 1945.

In addition to the 16 killed in the battle, nine more were wounded.

"It was dangerous duty, there's no doubt about it, but I was 18 years old, sitting behind the twin .50 calibers, and I got excited every time the engines were opened full-throttle," Mr. Bosely recalled. "At the same time, you're sitting on a plywood boat with 3,000 gallons of gasoline, torpedoes, and ammunition. If you're hit, you're done.

"We once had a gas tank hit by a 20-mm German shell that turned out to be a dud. It makes me think about how lucky we were out there. Fate can be both kind and cruel."

All too often, historians are callous in assessing victory and loss in naval battles. The water-bound showdowns are gauged by the number of ships destroyed and damaged. The human element–the pain, suffering, and loss experienced by sailors–has a way of getting lost in the bellies of those floating steel beasts.



But aboard PT boats, the loss could be as intimate as the proximity to the enemy. The relatively small size of the boats produced a tight-knit closeness unimaginable on larger ships, which were virtually floating cities. Perhaps this intimacy in the most hazardous of environments, rather than the wild war stories, the movies, books, the uniform eccentricities, and the Kennedy legacy, is the reason PT boats still capture our imagination today–and why PT boaters are such willing and vocal tellers of their wartime exploits even to this day.

In his official report to the Navy on the use of PT boats in World War II, aptly titled At Close Quarters, Capt. Robert Bulkley used the final paragraph to give proper credit to the legendary success of PT boats–brave men and fast vessels.

"The success of the PTs depended, and always will depend, on the ability and valor of their officers and men, on their eagerness to seek out the enemy and engage him at close quarters," Capt. Bulkely wrote. The spirit of their courage and determination, a spirit old in the Navy, was expressed on a sign at the PT base at Bougainville in the Solomons:



"Give me a fast ship, for I intend to go in harm's way."
John Paul Jones



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To: Iris7; Paleo Conservative

I've read somewhere that the Packard engine referred to here was a modified Allison V-1710, similar to what powered the P-38, 39, and P-40?


21 posted on 08/22/2005 7:47:50 AM PDT by investigateworld ( God bless Poland for giving the world JP II & a Protestant bump for his Sainthood!)
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To: Iris7

Most excellent read, Iris7.

The PT-109 incident has been so "glorified" that few now-a-day know that it was really a screw-up that would have gone unoticed or at most a footnote in history except for "friends" in high places and the fact that the Skipper became famous later in life.


22 posted on 08/22/2005 7:51:58 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Is that a beard, or are you eating a muskrat?)
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To: Valin
Mea Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa


23 posted on 08/22/2005 7:55:17 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Is that a beard, or are you eating a muskrat?)
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To: SAMWolf

Well I forgive you...this time....but WATCH IT! :-)


24 posted on 08/22/2005 8:04:24 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: snippy_about_it
GM, snippy!

free dixie,sw

25 posted on 08/22/2005 8:39:37 AM PDT by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: Iris7; SAMWolf
Good Morning all,
Great posts, I have always been interested in these fast heavily armed boats.
In the days of the PT boats the crews were given the latitude to get the job done, they modified, added weapons and implemented tactics that best suited them and their boats. It is great to see that the "brass" recognized the ability of the sailors to design and implement their own solutions to problems.
Thankfully we have seen a reemergence of the trust and latitude from the "brass" in Iraq. The service members of all the branches are coming up with some really great stuff that is saving lives and is keeping the defense contractors on their toes!
26 posted on 08/22/2005 9:09:50 AM PDT by USMCBOMBGUY (You build it, I'll defeat it!)
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To: snippy_about_it; bentfeather; Samwise; Peanut Gallery; Wneighbor
Good morning ladies. Flag-o-W-o-Gram.

Tuesday is gut-sucking day. Yippeee!

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President George W. Bush delivers remarks on U.S. Space Policy at NASA headquarters in Washington, D.C., Wednesday, Jan. 14, 2004. The President committed the United States to a long-term human and robotic program to explore the solar system, starting with a return to the Moon that will ultimately enable future exploration of Mars and other destinations.
President George W. Bush delivers remarks on U.S. Space Policy at NASA headquarters in Washington, D.C., Wednesday, Jan. 14, 2004. The President committed the United States to a long-term human and robotic program to explore the solar system, starting with a return to the Moon that will ultimately enable future exploration of Mars and other destinations.

27 posted on 08/22/2005 10:53:02 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can learn to calculate the power of the Dark Side.)
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To: SAMWolf

Wait a minute here. I don't see any mention of PT73.


28 posted on 08/22/2005 11:07:46 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can learn to calculate the power of the Dark Side.)
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To: bentfeather

Hi miss Feather.

Bittygirl has gained the power to unplug and reconnect our alarm clocks. The world will never be on time again.


29 posted on 08/22/2005 11:18:31 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can learn to calculate the power of the Dark Side.)
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To: Professional Engineer

I like your tagline. BTW elfboy took a math placement test today. He tested 2nd grade level.


30 posted on 08/22/2005 11:50:58 AM PDT by Peanut Gallery
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To: Valin
Hmmm. Here is a little hint.

He "wrote a book" with the word Courage in the title. Actually, he did not write the book. The ghostwriter did. This fellow never saw the thing until he got a printed and bound publisher's proof copy. This makes sense, since of Courage this fellow had absolutely none. Very skilled at cheating on his wife or getting lots of good soldiers killed for no reason, though.

Howdy, Valin. Thanks for feeding me that line. Bud Abbott couldn't have done better. Me, I am more the Lew Costello type, so it works out - "Who's on first?" ;-)
31 posted on 08/22/2005 12:46:59 PM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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To: alfa6

Howdy, Alfa.

Have great affection for the F4U. Your picture is very striking.

Once the American fighters got over 2,000 hp the Japanese could not outrun them unless coming out of a dive. In a dive or climb the heavy American craft could not be caught. P47 was that way, using the same engine, and weighing two tons more. Corsair must have been a rocket.

Oh, yes. Engine is a Pratt and Whitney R-2800 two row eigteen cylinder radial, of 2,800 cubic inches and 2,000 hp in the early models. Most excellent engine. DC-6 ran them, reliable, compact, powerful.

Vought - Sikorski design.


32 posted on 08/22/2005 1:00:43 PM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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To: Iris7
He "wrote a book" with the word Courage in the title

Stephen Crane was a PT Boat Skipper?!?!?!?!?

33 posted on 08/22/2005 1:01:12 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Is that a beard, or are you eating a muskrat?)
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To: Peanut Gallery

How's this for coincidence. I was speaking with a guy at our Galactic HQ this morning. He has a daughter 4 days older than BG, and with the same first name.


34 posted on 08/22/2005 1:09:48 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can learn to calculate the power of the Dark Side.)
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To: SAMWolf
Good job on the PT Boat Thread!!


35 posted on 08/22/2005 1:22:27 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior ("I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once")
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To: investigateworld
I did believe as you do until about five minutes ago, when I checked.

http://www.ptboats.org/20-01-05-ptboat-008.html

PACKARD V-12 MARINE ENGINE

The Packard 4M-2500 engine was utilized in all U.S. Navy World War II PT boats. This engine was based on the 1925 Liberty aircraft engine which was earlier converted for marine use in racing boats. During the war the Packard engine went through various performance updates and modifications. With early engines rated at 1100 h.p. and progressing to 1500 h.p. during the war. The Packard 4M-2500 engine was a supercharged, water cooled, gasoline powered V-12 engine, weighing approximately 2900 pounds.

The Packard 4M-2500 marine engine was not the Rolls-Royce Merlin, nor did U.S. Navy PT boats use the R.R. Merlin engines, which is sometimes misstated. However, Packard did built a version of Merlin Engine under contract by Britain for British aircraft use.
36 posted on 08/22/2005 1:25:09 PM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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To: Professional Engineer

Hi PE, time to get a wind up alarm clock!! LOL

Oh this child is gonna make you bald. :)


Good luck and prayers up for tomorrow.


37 posted on 08/22/2005 1:31:38 PM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: USMCBOMBGUY
This is good to know. Very different from what I recall. A tremendous improvement.

Reading between the lines I wonder if the lads are running into mines buried in the roads and in well used paths. Any knowledge on this? Thanks.

Side armor won't work in those circumstances. A couple of tons of sandbags works OK in my experience. Proper design is a whole lot better answer. Israeli RAM vehicles will work nicely. Buy them, copy them making them look different for political reasons, whatever.
38 posted on 08/22/2005 1:35:14 PM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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To: SAMWolf; All

A salute to all the veterans of the PT Boats, and the memory of many a brave lad lost!


39 posted on 08/22/2005 1:48:27 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior ("I try to take one day at a time, but sometimes several days attack me at once")
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To: alfa6
Wow, great picture, great plane. Here is a few for you, none of them as striking as the one you posted though

40 posted on 08/22/2005 1:55:16 PM PDT by USMCBOMBGUY (You build it, I'll defeat it!)
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