Skip to comments.The Freeper Foxhole Enjoys an Almost Lazy Sunday- A B-24 Liberator Walk Around
Posted on 09/03/2005 9:24:33 PM PDT by alfa6
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A Color, mostly, look at a B-24
Design of the B-24 was started in 1939 when the U.S.Army Air Corps started a request for a new bomber with performance better than the B-17. Consolidated Aircraft was awarded a contract on March 30, 1939 for the Consolidated Model 32. On December 29, 1939 the B-24 prototype took flight.
The B-24 was designed around the high lift Davis wing, an airfoil that was 20% more efficent than the contemporary airfoils that were in use at the time. Also notable on the B-24 was the first use of the tri-cycle landing gear on a heavy bomber and the unique roll-up bomb bay doors. The oval shaped engine cowlings were necessitated by the placement of the turbosuperchargers.
Of the first 7 YB-40s 6 were sent to Great Britian under the designation LB-30A. The British found that they were not suitable for combat operations due to the lack of self sealing fuel tanks and turbosuperchargers. The 6 aircraft ended up be used as transports in the Trans-Atlantic Return ferry Service.
Like the earlier B-17 the B-24 was subjected to a number of modifications. Two of which stand out are the C-87 cargo version and the C-109 flying tanker version. Winston Churchill had a specially outfitted C-87 as his personal aircraft.
18,188 B-24s were produced by the end of WW-II and the B-24 soldiered on till 1953 with the United States Air Force. The B-24 was produced not only by Consolidated Aircraft but by Ford at the Willow Run plant, were 6,600 were built. Other producers of the B-24 were North American Aviation at the Dallas plant and Douglas had a plant in Tulsa Oklahoma as well.
Currently out of the over 18,000 B-24s produced there are only three flyable B-24s in existence. There are two B-24Js and an LB-30 that are still flyable. As an interesting side note the Indian Air Force flew the B-24 untill 1968 and this is the source of the two remaing flyable "J" models.
What follows will be a short walk around and a few interior views of a B-24.
A few links for more info on the B-24
Here is a close up of the Martin A-3 top turret on a B-24
And I really should have worked this picture into the story above.
Y'all have a good day and we will be back in the morning :-)
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And that beauty was built by Consolidated -Ft Worth, I forget which J it is , but it is a Ft Worth bird. 5 plants built the J model, Consolidated SanDiego(CO), Consolidated Ft Worth(CF), Douglas Tulsa (DT), NorthAmerican Dallas (NT) and Ford (FO) The Barksdale B-24 is a Ford built Liberator.
God, what a dull boy I am .
>>>> The B-24 and B-17 used the same basic ball turret with one distinction. The turret on the B-24 was retractable due to the low ground clearance of the Liberator. <<<<
If i'm not mistaken the B-17s was also retractable. Not much clearance with a tail wheel in the back either.
Good morning to everyone at the Freeper Foxhole.
Good morning Snippy, Sam and every one. As if GW hasn't enough on his plate he looses the Chief Justice. May our Lord grant Rehnquist family His comfort.
Good Sunday morning to everyone. Thanks for the tour of the B-24. The pictures are absolutely great.
A couple of questions - one of the pics had what looks to me like names of individuals inscribed on the fuselage - am I correct? Are those the names of air force vets who flew some of the B-24's?
Secondly, in the movie, "12 O'Clock High," did the movie use B-24's? It's been a couple of decades since I've seen that movie.
When we were children, my brother and I recited this prayer every night before supper: "God is great, God is good. Let us thank Him for this food." For years I spoke the words of this prayer without stopping to consider what life would be like if it were not trueif God were not both great and good.
Without His greatness maintaining order in the universe, the galaxies would be a junkyard of banged-up stars and planets. And without His goodness saying "enough" to every evil despot, the earth would be a playground ruled by the biggest bully.
That simple childhood prayer celebrates two profound attributes of God: His transcendence and His immanence. Transcendence means that His greatness is beyond our comprehension. Immanence describes His nearness to us. The greatness of the almighty God sends us to our knees in humility. But the goodness of God lifts us back to our feet in grateful, jubilant praise. The One who is above everything humbled Himself and became one of us (Psalm 135:5; Philippians 2:8).
Thank God that He uses His greatness not to destroy us but to save us, and that He uses His goodness not as a reason to reject us but as a way to reach us. Julie Ackerman Link
When you taste God's goodness, His praise will be on your lips.
As a side note I was lucky enough to see the "Dragon and His Tail" here in Kansas City a couple of years ago. They were very carefull to taxi up to the gate area with the pilots side to the gate. Hmmm, I wonder why?
BTW, the Collings Foundation has repainted the B-24 in the colors of the 8th Air Force, the 467th Bomb Group. The aircraft's name is "Witchcraft"
Here's a pic of the new nose art paint job.
And I don't recall seeing any B-24s in 12 O'Clock High. Maybe I will have to watch the movie tonite to double check.
On This Day In History
Birthdates which occurred on September 04:
0522 Greek poet Pindar
1383 Amadeus VIII, duke of Savoye/last antipope (Felix V (1439-48)
1736 Robert Raikes England, Sunday school pioneer
1768 Vicomte François René de Chateaubriand, French writer and chef who gave his name to a style of steak.
1795 Friedrich [August] von Alberti German geologist (Triassic Age)
1802 Marcus Whitman missionary, led to US securing Oregon
1803 Sarah Childress Polk 1st lady
1810 Donald McKay US naval architect, built fastest clipper ships
1824 Anton Bruckner Austria, Wagner disciple & monumental bore
1825 Dadabhai Naoroji 1st Indian in British parliament
1895 Nigel Bruce British/US actor (Dr Watson-Sherlock Holmes)
1917 Henry Ford II automaker (Ford)(SHOCK! I always thought he worked for GM.)
1918 Paul Harvey Tulsa Okla, news commentator (The rest.........of the story)
1920 Craig Claiborne food columnist (NY Times Cookbook)
1928 Dick York Fort Wayne Ind, actor (Darrin-Bewitched, Inherit the Wind)
1929 Thomas Eagleton (Sen-D-Mo, Dem VP candidate 1972)
1942 Ray Floyd Fort Bragg NC, PGA golfer (Masters 1976)
1953 Lawrence-Hilton Jacobs NYC, actor (Freddie-Welcome Back Kotter)
1959 William Kennedy Smith Kennedy accused of rape in Florida (1991)
1966 Debra Lewin South Burlington Vermont, Miss Vermont-America (1991)
1972 Merald Knight Atlanta Ga, singer (Gladys Knights & Pips)
2179 Nyota Uhura Nairobi Kenya, communications officer (Star Trek)
One thing hardly ever talked about is WWII airborne electronics intelligence gathering.
Sounds like a subject for a thread.