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The FReeper Foxhole - Dick Winters' Reflections on His Band of Brothers - Nov 3rd, 2005
American History Magazine | Christopher J. Anderson

Posted on 11/02/2005 10:46:59 PM PST by snippy_about_it



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.



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Dick Winters' Reflections




His Band of Brothers, D-Day and Leadership


Major Richard "Dick" Winters of "Band of Brothers" fame speaks candidly about the men and actions of Easy Company and reflects on D-Day and the lessons he learned about leadership.

After his discharge from the U.S. Army in 1945, Major Richard Winters returned to civilian life. He worked for a while for Nixon Nitration Works, the family firm of his wartime friend Louis Nixon. Following a brief tour of duty during the Korean War, he returned to Hershey, Pa., embarked on a successful business career, raised a family and lived the quiet life he had promised himself after his first day in combat on June 6, 1944. In 1992 this solitude was interrupted with the publication of historian Stephen E. Ambrose's best-selling book Band of Brothers, which brought the World War II story of Dick Winters and Company E, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division -- which he had commanded from Normandy to Berchtesgaden -- to the public's attention. The spotlight intensified exponentially when Hollywood's Steven Spielberg and Tom Hanks teamed up to bring Winters' story to tens of millions in the highly acclaimed, Emmy-winning HBO miniseries Band of Brothers. This mass exposure transformed Winters and his comrades into cultural icons for generations far removed from World War II. They have become the embodiment of millions of American servicemen who marched off to war as ordinary men but achieved extraordinary things.

Faced with his newfound fame, Winters seized the opportunity to continue to lead and instill in others the lessons about leadership he learned in the life and death crucible of war. It was Ambrose who, after chronicling Winters' story, impressed upon him that his leadership ethics could inspire all generations.


Major Dick Winters: After Band of Brothers became such an unexpected success, Ambrose wrote me a letter of thanks. In that letter he said, "Thanks for teaching me the duties and responsibilities of a good company commander." Later on, he again acknowledged me in his book on Lewis and Clark. He continued to do this with every book he wrote afterward. I appreciated that recognition, and I appreciated the fact that he never forgot me. I was one of the first people he called when he said that he had sold the book to Tom Hanks and Steven Spielberg.

Ambrose later wrote me another letter and said that in the future, whenever I had an opportunity, I should talk on the subject of leadership. So, as a way to deliver what I believe is an important message, and to honor my friend's request, I speak on this subject whenever I have an opportunity.

Winters' first opportunity to lead came in 1942, when he completed Officer Candidate School and began his journey to Easy Company and war.

When I first joined the Army I took a series of tests to see where I would best fit. I scored high enough that I qualified for Officer Candidate School [OCS]. While I was at OCS at Fort Benning, Ga., I applied for the airborne, a new thing that looked like a challenge. I had always enjoyed sports and physical activity, and there was a certain appeal to being with the best. After graduating from OCS, I reported to Camp Croft, in South Carolina, where I was busy training new men. I had been at this for about 13 weeks when I got orders to report to Camp Toombs in Georgia. On the way to the camp I was pretty unsettled. I took Highway 13, passed a casket factory and reported in at Camp Toombs. There was not much there, and I was assigned to a tar-paper shack. There were no windows in any of the buildings, and the only place with electricity was the latrine. This was rough. But you were expecting to have it rough if you were going to be in the parachute troops.

Training started right away, and there was this Currahee Mountain that we had to run up and down. It was wicked, a real killer. But Currahee was terrific, as it became a test for all the men and officers. Everyone had to run up it -- walk actually, in what we called the "airborne shuffle." It was equal for every man, every officer. Nobody was getting by with a thing. Everybody was being treated the same.

Shortly after Winters' arrival in July 1942, the Georgia camp's name was changed from the ominous Toombs to Toccoa. The new airborne officers were highly selective when it came to picking the men to fill what was to be the 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment.


Winters at Toccoa


We looked for the ones who looked like they could take it. When the going got tough, could they stick with it? We also looked for the men who accepted discipline. I already knew discipline is what makes a good soldier. On the runs and the hikes it was discipline that kept the men going. Another thing we looked at was if the individual was accepted by the other men. The men themselves did a lot of the work for the officers by sizing each other up. If someone could not be accepted by his fellow soldiers he was gone right away. The men who were told to leave didn't get to vote or make an appeal. This was not a popularity contest.

At Toccoa, Winters first met Colonel Robert Sink, the legendary commander of the 506th. Sink turned down two promotions during the war to stay with the regiment, an unusual choice given his West Point credentials as a professional soldier.

When I first met Sink I was in awe. He was sitting behind his desk smoking a cigarette. He came across as having this West Point attitude. You know, "You are not any big deal." But I learned pretty quickly that my first impression was wrong. Sink was a terrific leader, and he stuck with the regiment from the beginning to the very end of the war. I often wondered during the war how come this guy is sticking around? Frankly, I thought it was his drinking problem. He had a drinking problem, but it did not affect his leadership of the regiment.

This was his first regiment. And if you look at it through his eyes, and you see these troops coming from civilian life, direct from school, from work, maybe a few of them with a little college, and he is supposed to make a regiment out of this group?

It makes it even tougher when you look at the officers he was assigned -- and I include myself here. Here I am, a year out of college. I go through basic training as a volunteer. I signed up for Officer Candidate School. So a 90-day wonder, and now I am a second lieutenant. And this is the kind of stuff he was assigned and told to turn into a crack airborne unit. He had a heck of a job. To make it worse, he had nothing there at the camp. There were no buildings when he first reported in. He had to build an obstacle course. He had to beg, borrow and steal what he needed. He had to search for men who knew even the basics of their job. Of the cadre that he started with in Toccoa, not one of them was around by the time we got into combat. They were all good enough men, they were just not fit enough to be in the airborne. They came in and were there to teach us, give us basic training and construct the camp, put it together, but not one of them was around by the time we were ready to go to France. Sink did a terrific job from start to finish. He stuck with us throughout the entire war. I respect "Bourbon Bob." He was a good man.

Following Camp Toccoa, Winters and his men continued training at Fort Benning and other camps in the States before shipping out for Aldbourne, England, in September 1943. Winters credits his time in the idyllic English village and his relationships with its residents with truly preparing him for the tasks to come.

On the way over to England, the conditions on the troopship were awful; even the officers were crowded together. We arrived in Aldbourne on a Saturday evening and were immediately made busy getting the men settled and bedded down. All of the officers were crowded together in another building. The next morning, Sunday, I decided to get away from everybody to be by myself for a few minutes. The best place to be alone with your thoughts is in church, so I went to church. It gave me a chance to relax a little bit, get my thoughts together. I didn't pay any attention to the sermon, that wasn't important -- I just needed to be alone. After the service I still wanted to enjoy my solitude. Adjacent to the church there was a small cemetery. I went out of the church and walked up a hill to two small benches, and I sat down. As I looked over the cemetery I could see an elderly couple fussing over a grave. They eventually wandered up the hill and sat beside me.

We were soon engaged in a little conversation, and they invited me for tea. We had been briefed on how to handle our dealing with the English. It had been pointed out to us that they were on very strict rationing and that we shouldn't overdo invitations of this kind and make their problem all the more severe. But I went to tea and had a few visits with them after that. Shortly, it was decided that the officers were too crowded and some should be boarded with families in the town. Mr. and Mrs. Barnes offered to take two officers in, as long as I was one of them. I took Lieutenant Harry Welsh with me. Our quarters were with the family in a room over their store. It was not a big room, and we slept on army cots, but it got us away from the crowds. Now Welsh, he enjoyed going out in the evenings to the pubs, but I preferred to stay at home with the Barneses. In the evenings, as was their custom, shortly before 9 o'clock when the news came on, Mrs. Barnes would come up and knock on my door and say, "Lieutenant Winters, would you like to come down and listen to the news and have a spot of tea?" So naturally I took the opportunity to join them and listen to the news. Afterward Mr. Barnes, who was a lay minister, would lead us in a short prayer. Then we would have a small treat and chat for a while. Then, at 10, Mr. Barnes would announce that it was time for bed. That ritual became so important. I'd found a home away from home.

And, you see, the day I first saw the Barnes couple they had been decorating the grave of their son, who was in the Royal Air Force and had been killed. They adopted me and made me part of the family. This helped me prepare mentally for what I was about to face. As I look back on the months before the invasion, my stay with the Barnes family was so important. They were giving me the best treatment they could; they gave me a home, which was so important for my maturing.

While his time with the Barnes family afforded him an opportunity for calm and reflection, the days after his transfer to the marshaling area at Uppottery, England, were filled with final preparations for the impending invasion of Normandy.

They would take groups of us into tents in the marshaling areas to brief us and show us sand table models of the area where we were going to be jumping. When I went into the tent, a staff officer instructed us to memorize everything we saw -- the roads, bridges, trenches, everything. It was all very impressive, but you can only take so much of this. Frankly, I didn't let myself get carried away trying to memorize every cockeyed thing, because the big thing in life, not only in making a jump into Normandy, is that you have got to be able to think on your feet. That's what we had to do, and that's what we did. You've got to be able to think on your feet throughout your life. You have to do it every day.

The miniseries depicts a moment in the marshaling area at Uppottery when Winters disciplines Lieutenant Lynn "Buck" Compton, a fellow officer and close friend.

Compton had been with the company for six months, and I liked him very much. One problem, however, was that he had gotten into the habit of gambling with some of the men in the marshaling area. That is why I reprimanded him. It is a poor policy, and it puts him in the position, the embarrassing position, that if he wins, he must take from the men. He had taken from the men already. The point I was trying to make is that you have to be prepared to give to the people you lead. You must give in every way. You must give of your time, and you must be consistent in your treatment of them. You must never take from people you lead. Later, at Brécourt Manor, Compton did a fantastic job leading his men.

In the early morning hours of June 6, 1944, Winters leapt out into the flak-filled skies over Normandy and landed outside of Ste. Mère-Eglise just after 1 o'clock in the morning. After a harrowing night, he managed to collect a handful of men from Easy Company and bring them to Le Grand-Chemin, from where he led the attack on a battery of four German guns at Brécourt Manor -- guns that lay at the end of crucial Causeway No. 2, and that the 4th Infantry Division needed to get off Utah Beach. Of all Winters' actions in France, the destruction of German guns positioned at Brécourt Manor, raining down fire on the Americans struggling off Utah Beach, has been the most often cited. Professors at West Point have used this action as a lesson on the proper method of carrying out a small-unit attack. Chillingly depicted in the HBO miniseries, this daring assault is credited with saving many lives and expediting the advance of American forces inland on D-Day.




After roaming around at the tail end of another column for most of the evening, I finally stumbled into Le Grand-Chemin, where the 2nd Battalion was gathering. At the time, E Company consisted of just 13 men. As I was sitting there with my men, an officer came back and said, "Winters, they want you up front!" When I got there, Captain Clarence Hester turns to me and says: "There's fire along that hedgerow there. Take care of it." That was it. There was no elaborate plan or briefing. I didn't even know what was on the other side of the hedgerow. All I had were my instructions, and I had to quickly develop a plan from there. And as it turns out, I did. We were able to take out those four German guns with the loss of only one man, Private John Hall, who was killed just in front of me. He was a good man, and his death was hard on me. But the attack leaves good memories. We got the job done. It was only later, much later, that I realized how important knocking out those guns had been to our securing Causeway 2, which became the main causeway for troops coming off Utah Beach.

Years later, I heard from someone who had come up off the beach on that causeway. This guy, a medic, had been following behind some tanks. As they came up from the beach, one of the tanks became disabled. When the driver got out, he stepped on a mine. The medic went out into the field and patched this guy up. Later, after the book came out, this medic wrote me a letter and pointed out that he always wondered why the fire onto Utah Beach had stopped. "Thanks very much," he said. "I couldn't have made it without those guns being knocked out." That medic was a man named Eliot Richardson, who, as it turns out, later became attorney general in the Nixon administration. So we did a little good out there for those troops coming in on D-Day, which makes you feel pretty good.




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It might Thuresday to y'all but it's FRIDAY for me bump for the Freeper Foxhole.

Birthday greetings to the Marines today

Semper FI

alfa6 ;>}

201 posted on 11/10/2005 2:50:47 AM PST by alfa6
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Good morning ladies and gents. Flag-o-Gram.

Edmund Fitzgerald

Gordon Lightfoot: Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald

202 posted on 11/10/2005 5:41:30 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Happy birthday Jarheads!)
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November 10, 2005

Golden Gods

Read:
Exodus 12:29-42

You shall have no other gods before Me. —Exodus 20:3

Bible In One Year: Acts 1-2

cover God had seized the attention of Pharaoh and the Egyptians with a series of plagues. Now they were dying to be rid of their Hebrew slaves. But God didn't want the Israelites to leave Egypt empty-handed. After all, they had 400 years of wages due them. So they asked their former masters for articles of silver, gold, and clothing, and they got them. Exodus 12:36 says that the Israelites "plundered the Egyptians."

It wasn't long, however, until God's people fell into idolatry. They used their gold to make a golden calf, which they worshiped while Moses was on Mount Sinai receiving God's law (32:1-4).

This tragic experience highlights the tension that Christians are required to maintain regarding their possessions. There is much in our society that we enjoy, but material things also pose grave dangers when we use them thoughtlessly. Os Guinness says that we are "free to utilize" but "forbidden to idolize." We are "strangers and pilgrims on the earth" (Hebrews 11:13), and we must not become so enamored with "the riches of Egypt" that we grow complacent and forget our true calling.

Are we using our material blessings to serve the Lord? Or have we become slaves to them? —Haddon Robinson

I have an old nature that noisily clamors
To satisfy empty desire;
But God in His goodness has sent me a Helper
Who whispers, "Your calling is higher." —Gustafson

Gold can be a helpful servant but a cruel master.

FOR FURTHER STUDY
Jesus' Parables About Money

203 posted on 11/10/2005 5:45:13 AM PST by The Mayor ( As a child of God, prayer is kind of like calling home everyday.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Thank you, I love that song!


204 posted on 11/10/2005 5:55:31 AM PST by The Mayor ( As a child of God, prayer is kind of like calling home everyday.)
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Good morning everyone!

205 posted on 11/10/2005 7:45:48 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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WOO HOO, alfa!! Love the plane.


206 posted on 11/10/2005 7:46:32 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: The Mayor

You're very welcome.


207 posted on 11/10/2005 8:04:35 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Happy birthday Jarheads!)
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DUCK!!


208 posted on 11/10/2005 8:04:49 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Happy birthday Jarheads!)
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Hi miss Feather


209 posted on 11/10/2005 8:05:04 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Happy birthday Jarheads!)
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On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on November 10:
1483 Martin Luther Eisleben, Germany, founded Protestantism
1668 Francois Couperin Paris France, composer/organist (Concerts Royaux)
1683 George II king of England (1727-60)
1730 Oliver Goldsmith Ireland, novelist/dramatist (She Stoops to Conquer)
1759 Frederich von Schiller Germany, poet/lyricist (Ode to Joy)
1793 Jared Kirtland US, physician/naturalist/reformed penitentiaries
1834 Jos‚ Hernandez Argentina screenwriter (Martin Fierro)
1834 Wager Swayne Major General (Union volunteers), died in 1902
1861 Robert TA Innes Edinburgh Scotland, astronomer (Proxima Centauri)
1879 Nicholas Vachel Lindsay US, poet (Gen William Booth enters Heaven)
1879 Vachel Lindsay Springfield IL, poet (Johnny Appleseed)
1880 Sir Jacob Epstein sculptor (Adam, Jacob & the Angel)
1882 Frances Perkins 1st woman Cabinet member (Secretary of Labor 1933-45)
1889 Claude Rains London, actor (Invisible Man, Casablanca)
1895 John Knudsen Northrop aircraft designer (Northrop Air)
1919 Clyde (Bulldog) Turner NFL center (Chicago Bears)
1919 George Fenneman TV announcer (You Bet Your Life)
1919 Moise Tshombe President of Katanga, then premier of the Congo (Zaire)
1925 Richard Burton South Wales, actor (Cleopatra, Virginia Woolf)
1930 Clarence M Pendleton Jr chairman of US comm on Civil Rights (1981-88)
1935 Ronald E Evans St Francis KS, Captain USN/astronaut (Apollo 17)
1935 Roy Scheider Orange NJ, actor (All That Jazz, Jaws)
1937 Albert Hall Boothton Alabama, actor (Trouble in Mind, Ryan's 4)
1944 Dave Loggins singer (Please come to Boston)
1945 Donna Fargo NC, country singer (Happiest Girl in Whole USA)
1946 David Stockman Reagan's ex-budget director
1948 Greg Lake rock guitarist (Emerson, Lake & Palmer-Tarkus)
1949 Ann Reinking Seattle, dancer/actress (All the Jazz, Micki & Maude)
1950 Jack Scalia Brooklyn NY, actor (Berrengers, Hollywood Beat)
1955 Jack Clark Pennsylvania, all star outfielder (Giants, Cards, Yanks, Padres)
1956 Sinbad comedian/actor (Different World, At the Apollo)
1959 MacKenzie Phillips Alexandria VA, actress (Julie-1 Day at a Time)
1961 Junior [Norman Giscombe], R&B singer (Mama used to Say)
1970 TheBigB was not (repeat NOT) born on this day. Because IF he were that would mean he would be THIRITYFIVE YEARS OLD and this is not possible, there is no way he could be this OLD...enfeebled....antediluvian... primordial...doddering....superannuated.
Therefore as a duly authorized represenative of THEM we declare this as BigB's UNbirthday
"The first sign of maturity is the discovery that the volume knob also turns to the left." ~Jerry M. Wright



Deaths which occurred on November 10:
0461 Leo I the Great, Pope (440-61), dies
1285 Pedro III king of Aragon, dies
1444 Wladyslaw III Warnenczyk king of Poland/Hungarian, dies in battle
1779 Joseph Hewes US merchant/signer (Decl of Independence), dies at 49
1865 Henry Wirzm Confederate prison supt executed for excessive cruelty
1938 Kemal Ataturk, [Mustafa Kemal], general/president/founder of modern Turkey, dies at 57
1981 Abel Gance French movie director, dies at 92
1982 Leonid I Brezhnev Soviet 1st sect, dies of a heart attack at 75
1985 Pelle Lindbergh Philadelphia Flyer's goalie, dies in drunk driving accident
1992 Chuck Connors US basket/baseball player(Boston Celtics/ Montreal Royals)/actor (The rifleman), dies
1994 Carmen McRae [Clark] US jazz singer/pianist, dies at about 73


Take A Moment To Remember
GWOT Casualties

Iraq
10-Nov-2004 9 | US: 9 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Lance Corporal Wesley J. Canning Fallujah - Anbar Hostile - hostile fire
US Private 1st Class Dennis J. Miller Jr. Ramadi - Anbar Hostile - hostile fire - RPG attack
US Staff Sergeant Michael C. Ottolini Balad (near) - Salah ad Din Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US Corporal Romulo J. Jimenez II Fallujah - Anbar Hostile - hostile fire
US Lance Corporal Aaron C. Pickering Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
US Staff Sergeant Gene Ramirez Fallujah - Anbar Hostile - hostile fire
US Lance Corporal Erick J. Hodges Fallujah - Anbar Hostile - hostile fire
US 1st Lieutenant Dan T. Malcom Jr. Fallujah - Anbar Hostile - hostile fire
US Petty Officer 3rd Class Julian Woods Fallujah - Anbar Hostile - hostile fire


Afghanistan
A GOOD DAY


http://icasualties.org/oif/
Data research by Pat Kneisler
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http://soldiersangels.org/heroes/index.php


On this day...
0461 St Leo I ends his reign as Catholic Pope
1444 Battle at Varna, Black Sea: Sultan Murad II defeats Crusaders
Battle of Varna, 1444



This brief description of the Battle of Varna in 1410 is part of a letter written to the pope. The failure of Hungary's allies to come to her assistance is also bitterly condemned.
http://www.ucalgary.ca/applied_history/tutor/endmiddle/bluedot/varna.html
1567 Battle at St-Denis: French govt army vs Huguenots
1630 Failed palace revolution against Richelieu government in France
1674 Dutch formally cede New Netherlands (NY) to English
1775 US Marine Corps established by Congress
("God has a hard-on for Marines because we kill everything we see! He plays His games, we play ours! To show our appreciation for so much power, we keep heaven packed with fresh souls! God was here before the Marine Corps! So you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ass belongs to the Corps! Do you ladies understand?"
Gunnery Sergeant Hartman)
1782 In the last battle of the American Revolution, George Rodgers Clark attacks Indians and Loyalists at Chillicothe, in Ohio Territory.
1801 Kentucky outlaws dueling
1808 Osage Treaty signed
1864 Kingston, GA burned during Sherman's March to Sea
1864 Austrian Archduke Maximilian became emperor of Mexico
1871 Stanley presumes to meet Livingston in Ujiji, Central Africa
1891 1st Woman's Christian Temperance Union meeting held (in Boston)
1898 Race riot in Wilmington NC (8 blacks killed)
1908 1st Gideon Bible put in a hotel room
1917 41 suffragists are arrested in front of the White House
1918 Independence of Poland proclaimed by Jozef Pilsudski
1919 1st observance of National Book Week
1919 American Legion's 1st national convention (Minneapolis)
1926 Vincent Massey becomes 1st Canadian minister to USA
1928 Hirohito enthroned as Emperor of Japan
1940 Pittsburgh & Philadelphia play a penalty free NFL game
1945 College football's #1 Army beats #2 Notre Dame 48-0
1945 Nazi concentration camp at Buchenwald liberated by US
1945 General Enver Hoxha becomes leader of Albania
1951 1st long distance telephone call without operator assistance

1954 Iwo Jima Memorial (servicemen raising US flag) dedicated in Arlington

1954 Lt Col John Strapp travels 632 MPH in a rocket sled
1957 NFL record crowd (102,368), '49ers vs Rams in LA
1960 Senate passes landmark Civil Rights Bill
1963 Gordie Howe takes over NHL career goal lead at 545
1968 Launch of Zond 6, 2nd unmanned circumlunar & return flight
1969 "Sesame Street" premieres on PBS TV
1971 US table tennis team arrived in China
1974 2nd meeting of Giants-Jets, Jets even series at 1 with 26-20 OT win
1974 Montreal Candiens shutout Washington Capitals 11-0
1975 Ore ship Edmund Fitzgerald & crew of 29 lost in storm on Lake Superior
1975 PLO leader Yasser Arafat addresses UN in NYC (Ain't gonna do that no more)
1975 UN General Assembly approves resolution equating Zionism with racism
1976 Utah Supreme Court OKs execution of convicted murderer Gary Gilmore
1977 Major Indoor Soccer League officially organized (NYC)
1980 Dan Rather refuses to pay his cabbie, CBS pays the $12.55 fare
1984 Miami Hurricanes blows 31-0 lead in 3rd quarter lose to MD 42-40
1986 River Rhine (Germany) polluted by chemical spill
1988 Orel Hershiser wins NL Cy Young award unanimously
1989 Guerrillas battle with government forces in El Salvador

1989 Germans begin punching holes in the Berlin Wall

1989 Word Perfect 5.1 is shipped (patches soon follow)
1990 Lebanon releases 2 French hostages (Camille Sontag & Marcel Coudari)
1991 Marty Glickman broadcasts his 1,000th football game
2084 Transit of Earth as seen from Mars
2001 Taliban officials confirmed that the Northern Alliance had captured the Afghan city of Mazar-e Sharif, while President George W. Bush told the United Nations General Assembly that the time had come for countries to take swift and decisive action against global terrorism.
2002 The House voted to allow President Bush to take unilateral military action against Saddam Hussein's regime in Iraq without conditions beyond Congress being informed almost immediately.
2004 WTO decides that old American laws prohibiting gambling over wires that cross state lines violate global trade rules for the services sector.


Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

India : Guru Nanak's Day-1st teacher of the Sikhs
Indonesia : Hero Day/Youth Day
Iran : Death of Iman Ali Day
US : Womens Veterans Recognition Week (Day 5)
Goddess of Reason (French observance).
Forget-Me-Not Day
International Drum Month


Religious Observances
RC : Commemoration of St Andrew Avellino, confessor
Ang, RC : Commemoration of St Leo the Great


Religious History
1766 In New Brunswick, New Jersey, Queen's College was chartered under the Dutch Reformed Church, to provide education "...especially in divinity, preparing [youth] for the ministry and other good offices." The present name of the school, Rutgers University, was adopted in 1924.
1770 French philosopher Fran_'__ois Voltaire, 75, uttered his famous remark: 'If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.'
1871 Following seven months of searching, foreign correspondent to the "New York Herald" Henry M. Stanley succeeded at last in locating Scottish missionary David Livingstone in Ujiji, Central Africa. Stanley prefaced his encounter with these words: 'Dr. Livingstone, I presume.'
1952 English apologist C.S. Lewis wrote in a letter: 'I believe that, in the present divided state of Christendom, those who are at the heart of each division are all closer to one another than those who are at the fringes.'
1977 It was announced that Pope Paul VI had ended the automatic excommunication imposed on divorced American Catholics who remarried. (The excommunication was first imposed by the Plenary Council of American Bishops in 1884.)

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Ostrich on loose tramples car in bid for freedom

Nov 9, 2:40 PM (ET)


NICOSIA (Reuters) - A runaway ostrich that eluded police caused severe damage when it attacked a Mercedes car during a three-hour rampage.
"Somehow it got out of its pen. We sent two patrols after it, but in the meantime it caused some damage to the bonnet and bumper of a Mercedes before we caught it," a police official in Cyprus said.
The ostrich caused considerable damage when it pounced on the car, the daily Phileleftheros reported.

The ostrich is the largest of birds and can weigh at least 400 pounds. It is also the fastest creature on two legs and can run up to 43 miles per hour;
"It took us more than three hours to catch it," the police official said.


Thought for the day :
"Dare to be wrong and to dream."
Friedrich von Schiller


210 posted on 11/10/2005 8:08:58 AM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: Professional Engineer

PE, WOO HOO, what's Bittygirl up to these days??


211 posted on 11/10/2005 8:45:51 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: Professional Engineer

OOh. A musical flag-o-gram. Good song. Thanks PE.


212 posted on 11/10/2005 9:00:06 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin
1976 Utah Supreme Court OKs execution of convicted murderer Gary Gilmore

"At 8:00 a.m. on January 17, 1977, the volunteer firing squad got into place. Four of the five weapons were loaded and one would fire a blank. That way, each man would have some idea that perhaps he was not the one who had ended another man's life. They placed the barrels of their rifles through small square holes in a wall as Gilmore was strapped into a chair. He gave his watch to Vern to give to Nicole; he'd broken it at his estimated time of execution. A paper target was placed over his heart and a black corduroy hood over his head. He was strapped into the chair. The least movement could make the bullets miss their mark."

I had forgotten that just 18yrs. ago a state could do it this way.

213 posted on 11/10/2005 9:04:17 AM PST by w_over_w (This tagline is blank, well, not actually blank but it would be if I didn't just tell you.)
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To: alfa6
Happy Birthday to our Marines!



This is a picture I received from the Tarawa. This is the 15th MEU getting ready to load from OIF in 2003.
214 posted on 11/10/2005 9:07:27 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin
1989 Germans begin punching holes in the Berlin Wall

I was still active duty at the time. I watched it on the teevee and was totally stunned. No beeber was involved.

215 posted on 11/10/2005 10:18:25 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Happy birthday Jarheads!)
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To: bentfeather

She discovered whipped cream last night.

Need I say she liked it?


216 posted on 11/10/2005 10:19:52 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Happy birthday Jarheads!)
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To: snippy_about_it

Howdy ma'am


217 posted on 11/10/2005 10:21:13 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Happy birthday Jarheads!)
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To: Professional Engineer

All over her face too, I bet.


218 posted on 11/10/2005 10:32:27 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: snippy_about_it
Happy Birthday USMC!


050809-M-5900L-087 Mariam Range, Djibouti (Aug. 9, 2005) - U.S. Marine Corps Lance Cpl. Mathew G. Schultz assists Lance Cpl. Hakeem L. Pinkston, with firing a M-240G medium machine gun at the Mariam Range in Djibouti. Marines of the 26th MEU (SOC) are assisting the Combined Joint Task Force, Horn of Africa, by providing humanitarian aid and training to the people susceptible to transnational terrorist influence. U.S. Marine Corps photo by Lance Cpl. Daniel R. Lowndes (RELEASED)


050719-N-3799S-005 Beaufort, S.C. (July 19, 2005) – An F/A-18C Hornet, assigned to the “Marauders” of Strike Fighter Squadron Eight Two (VFA-82), climbs in altitude after departing Marine Corps Air Station (MCAS) Beaufort, S.C., on a routine training mission. VFA-82 recently unveiled a new commemorative paintjob which was featured on the squadron’s aircraft during their first deployment in 1968 to Southeast Asia flying the A-7 Corsair II. VFA-82 is stationed on board MCAS Beaufort, S.C., and will be decommissioned on Sept. 30, 2005. U.S. Navy photo by Lt. Perry Solomon (RELEASED)


050305-N-2984R-001 Persian Gulf (Mar. 5, 2005) - The pilot of an F/A-18A+ Hornet, assigned to the "Silver Eagles" of Marine Fighter Attack Squadron One One Five (VMFA-115), conducts a check of his speed break prior to launch aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). Carrier Air Wing Three (CVW-3) is embarked aboard Truman and is providing close air support and conducting intelligence surveillance and reconnaissance over Iraq. The Truman Carrier Strike Group is on a regularly scheduled deployment in support of the Global War on Terrorism. U.S. Navy photo by Photographer's Mate Airman Ricardo J. Reyes (RELEASED)


050628-N-8772M-003 Kauai, Hawaii (June 28, 2005) - A U.S. Marine assigned to 3rd Assault Amphibious Battalion, 1st Marine Division, fires his M-16 rifle as he simulates a hostile combatant on the beaches of the Pacific Missile Range Facility, on the island of Kauai, Hawaii. The 3rd Assault Amphibious Battalion, 1st Marine Division, is currently embarked aboard the amphibious assault ship USS Peleliu (LHA 5). U.S. Navy photo by Journalist 2nd Class Johnny Michael (RELEASED)

219 posted on 11/10/2005 3:25:39 PM PST by Excuse_My_Bellicosity ("Sharpei diem - Seize the wrinkled dog.")
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

Thanks EMB.


220 posted on 11/10/2005 3:52:38 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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