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The FReeper Foxhole - Happy Thanksgiving Everyone - November 24th, 2005
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Posted on 11/23/2005 9:54:13 PM PST by snippy_about_it



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
.

FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.



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World War Two Voices from the Front


Bill Sykes of Plymouth, Combat Engineers and then 1095th Engineer Utility Company, Command SoPac, US Army Engineers 1942-1945 :
"My first Thanksgiving, that was kind of a sad thing for me, being away from home and being young and not being with my family for Thanksgiving, missing the football games.   And having no Thanksgiving -- we had no Thanksgiving.  They attempted to do it in a field kitchen, but what can you do in a field kitchen?  After that first Thanksgiving, though, they put on some beautiful meals.  They had everything you could think of for Thanksgiving dinner.  They really made a big effort to do it the proper way.  We would find out who had the best dinner.  And the Navy had the best dinner, I'll tell you right now.  The Navy had really good Thanksgivings.   They had the ships, you know.  And they'd bring in all kinds of food.   But the Army did pretty good, too. 
"The Thanksgiving dinners were served on trays.  (My first one, with the Combat Engineers, was served in mess kits.  That doesn't work too well.)  They had cranberry sauce, stuffing, the whole thing.  It was a good meal.  But the feeling of Thanksgiving wasn't there.  The meal was there, but the feeling of Thanksgiving wasn't.  I guess you couldn't have Thanksgiving when you were overseas.   There wasn't much to be thankful for.  It was sad.  Although, I guess there was some thankfulness, at least you were still alive!"

Cliff Sampson of Plymouth, US Navy 1942-1945 :
"My first military Thanksgiving was in 1942 at Great Lakes.  We had a big mess hall and it was a typical Thanksgiving dinner with turkey and all the fixings, apple pie and mince pie.  They tried to make it special and, of course, everybody was hepped on the war.  Just being a little recruit, you didn't have much to say about it anyhow, you just did what they told you and ate what they gave you.  But it was good food, I can't complain.  Some of the food probably was better than a lot of people ever had before they were in the service.  Some people came from poverty...
"Thanksgiving 1945 I was home in Plymouth with my family and my wife.  We were getting ready to settle down and I was back to work, running the store again.  It was a great feeling to be home, after being blown up on a ship in July (the USS YMS 84 yard mind sweeper was blown up 3 July 1945, Cliff Sampson received the Purple Heart) and then in November, I'm out of the service and the war is over.  I feel sorry for all those that didn't come back.  It was a great experience, but it's too bad for those who had to leave us.  They fought for a great cause."

Bill Shepard of Plymouth, 102 Infantry Division ("Ozark Division"), U.S. Army, stationed in Ohio, Germany and Wales :


Thanksgiving Dinner Two Ozark infantrymen, Pfc William G. Curtis from San Diego, California, and Pfc Donald R. Stratton from Colville, Washington, enjoy a hasty meal in the battered window of a shell-torn house far, far from home. 23 November 1944. Waurichen, Germany.


"The Armed Forces were absolutely adamant about getting the troops a Thanksgiving dinner, all over the world, no matter who you were or what you were doing.  Whether it was on the front lines or in a big fort like Sam Houston in San Antonio, they always made sure that the Armed Forces got a Thanksgiving dinner.  Christmas meals were also somewhat like that, but I remember the Thanksgiving dinners -- there were always turkeys and pies and everything you would have at home.  The food was often cold, if you were in the field (Thanksgiving Day 1944, the Ozark Division had just broken through the Siegfried Line at Aachen), but it was Thanksgiving."

Stanley Collins, US Navy :
"I was on submarine duty in the Pacific in the year 1943.  We were in the area off the cost of the Philippines.  I remember having a complete turkey dinner on Thanksgiving.  While the turkeys were cooking, the submarine took a dive.  We went down too steeply and the turkeys fell out of the oven onto the deck.  The cook picked them up and put them back into the oven -- and we ate them, regardless of what may have gotten on them as a result of their fall.  That meal was so good!"

Ervin Schroeder, 77th Infantry Division, 3rd Battalion, I Company, US Army :
"On Thanksgiving Day, we made our landing on Leyte Island in the Philippines very early in the morning.  We therefore missed our dinner aboard ship.  Somewhere down the beach from where we landed, the Navy sent us ham and cheese sandwiches.  My buddy happened to get one of the sandwiches and brought it back to our area.  I was complaining to him for not bringing one back for me when he started to have stomach cramps...  At this point, I shook his hand and thanked him for not bringing me a sandwich."

Ed Campbell, US Marine Corps, 1943-1945 :
"There were 3 Thanksgivings.  Actually, the one in '43 I don't really remember -- we may have been in California but it was just about the time we were getting ready to leave for the invasion of the Marshalls.  I think we spent it like we spent all our weekends -- every weekend we would all get liberty and head for Los Angeles.  That Thanksgiving just draws a blank.
"The second one, I was on Maui and I do remember.  It was an odd day.  You remember all of your early Thanksgivings with the family and a certain feeling of nostalgia sets in.  Then you take your mess kit, which is like an oval opened up, and go down to the mess hall and get your Thanksgiving dinner thrown into the mess kit.   It ends up with the turkey and carrots all mixed.  The cooks do a great job of trying to make it a festive meal but when you mix it all together with the gravy in the mess kit, its sort of like mush.  I do remember that.  Other than that, there was no celebration.  There wasn't too much discussion, we just all sort of hunkered into ourselves and thought of earlier days and days to come, hopefully.
"The third and last Thanksgiving (1945), I landed in Boston on Thanksgiving Day...  I walked around the city for a little bit, with joy in being immersed in the quietness of Boston -- it was around 7:30 or 8:00 in the morning.  I decided I would take a taxi home to Quincy.  I had enough money -- my discharge money -- so I was able to pay for a cab to take me home in style.  Of course, we had a great Thanksgiving.  My mother had all the relatives and old friends there -- I had called her to say that I would be home on Thanksgiving.  It was a wonderful day to come home.  It was literally the first day of the rest of my life."





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To: bentfeather; txradioguy

Thanks Ms Feather. I've had the nagging feeling I've seen the Soldier's face before, but wasn't placing him.


141 posted on 11/26/2005 1:17:46 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Ctrl+Alt+Riiiiiiight)
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To: Professional Engineer; txradioguy

He was in Iraq when I first met him, currently in Korea.


142 posted on 11/26/2005 1:21:57 PM PST by Soaring Feather (To our fabulous TROOPS, Thank You, for your service.)
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To: bentfeather

yOU WERE IN iRAQ?? cOOL!


143 posted on 11/26/2005 1:42:59 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Ctrl+Alt+Riiiiiiight)
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To: Professional Engineer

No, not me, tx, I met him on another thread when he was in Iraq.


144 posted on 11/26/2005 1:44:21 PM PST by Soaring Feather (To our fabulous TROOPS, Thank You, for your service.)
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To: Professional Engineer

yOU WERE IN iRAQ?? cOOL!




You're working again aren't you?? LOL


145 posted on 11/26/2005 3:11:05 PM PST by Soaring Feather (To our fabulous TROOPS, Thank You, for your service.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Cute f-o-g. Thanks.


146 posted on 11/26/2005 7:07:17 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin
'This is going to take more than one night'.

LOL.

147 posted on 11/26/2005 7:08:46 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; alfa6; Professional Engineer; All
Easy Listening for Saturday Evening



Eva Cassidy~Eva By Heart


Travelling Wilburys~End of the Line


AnitA Baker~Good Love


Aretha Franklin~One Way Ticket To Love


The BlackByrds~Walking In Rhythm


The Platters~Twilight Time


Queenie


148 posted on 11/26/2005 7:19:13 PM PST by Soaring Feather (To our fabulous TROOPS, Thank You, for your service.)
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To: bentfeather

Cool. Thanks feather.


149 posted on 11/26/2005 8:17:19 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: alfa6
Wow, fantastic. Would not that machine have been handy in 1942?

You must be about the only guy in the world who can name the FG-2 right off.

Merlin is so compact, so tiny, made the Spitfire possible. There is one on display (well, was, and I hope still is) at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry inside a plastic case. You can darn near wrap your arms around it. Turn around and there are three sectioned R-2800s. The Big Iron. Try to wrap your arms around one of those babies.

Spitfire was a defense interceptor, very good one in it's day. Tiny little machine, dainty, beautiful curves. There is one hanging from the ceiling next to the Merlin. Almost no range or room for guns though. Put a hole in the radiator or a round in the engine and crash.

Gabreski's P-47 flew him back from Germany with a cylinder blown clean off, gone completely, by a Bf109's cannon. Try that with a Merlin.

O.K., O.K., the Merlin was cool. Pretty cool, anyway. Somebody wants to drop one off in the garage on a stand with some tools and parts I won't tell him to get lost.

Some photos from Wright - Pat:


R-2800


Engine for the Vought SLAM, known as PLUTO. Some background:

"In the mid-1950s, nuclear ramjet powerplants for cruise missiles were studied, and in January 1957 the development of such a weapon system was officially initiated as Project Pluto.

The initial reactor prototype was called TORY-IIA and ran for the first time in May 1961. TORY-IIA was a proof-of-concept powerplant not intended for an actual flight-rated ramjet, and was followed by the larger and more powerful TORY-IIC. The latter was run-up on the ground to full power on 20 May 1964. The TORY-IIC consisted of 465000 tightly packed small fuel rods of hexagonal section, with about 27000 air-flow channels between them to heat the incoming high-pressure airflow. For the ground tests, the airflow was provided by a huge reservoir of compressed air, and TORY-IIC produced a thrust of about 170 kN (38000 lb) at a simulated airspeed of Mach 2.8."

A bit more modern is this 20,000,000 watt generator weighing 3,000 pounds. The engine to drive it would have had about thirty thousand horsepower, folks. SDI stuff, beam weapon maybe.


150 posted on 11/26/2005 8:22:52 PM PST by Iris7 ("Let me go to the house of the Father.")
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To: bentfeather

Busted, LOL.

Yep, I have three more high rise condo projects due by Christmas, so I've been putting in extra hours. Yesterday and today, I spent time at the office so I wasn't sitting in the garage watching paint dry.

I'm building a loft bed for Spiderboy, and it's paint time. We should get it mostly assembled, and out of the garage, by tomorrow. We bought the matress and sheets today, so it's good to go when the painting is done.


151 posted on 11/26/2005 8:47:47 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Ctrl+Alt+Riiiiiiight)
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To: snippy_about_it

Howdy ma'am


152 posted on 11/26/2005 9:31:55 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Ctrl+Alt+Riiiiiiight)
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To: Iris7; All

Super double plus seriously cool:

"The basic difficulty with space propulsion comes down to the problem of energy. There simply is not enough energy stored in NASA's best chemical fuels to generate much push (or more precisely, specific impulse, a quantity measured in seconds and given by ISP=vex/g , i.e., exhaust velocity divided by gravitational acceleration). The laws of physics dictate that if the specific impulse is low, the fuel consumed per second must be correspondingly very large to provide enough thrust (upward force) to boost a reasonable payload. The laws of economics dictate that a very large and reliable engine consuming a very large quantity of low-energy fuel to produce a large thrust must be very, very expensive. And finally, the laws of politics dictate that any project that is very, very expensive will be dominated by political decisions rather than scientific and engineering decisions. Within these boundary conditions the politics-before-engineering-before-science proclivities of NASA and the current dismal state of the U. S. Space Program are inevitable.

Zubrin's nuclear salt water rocket (NSWR) requires only minor extrapolations from the mature technology of existing nuclear power systems and could probably be implemented for prototype testing in a very short time. Writing the environmental impact statement for such tests, however, might present an interesting problem, because Zubrin's scheme vents highly radioactive nuclear fission products directly into space. It is therefore appropriate mainly for deep space missions. It is, in a sense, complementary to the laser-sustained propulsion scheme which requires a ground-bases laser within shooting distance of the space vehicle.

In his paper describing the concept, Zubrin considers using NSWR for a round trip mission to Titan, Saturn's largest moon. The NSWR would be fueled by 20% enriched uranium in the chemical form of a soluble salt (uranium tetra-bromide) dissolved in ordinary water at about the same atom number concentration as the salt in sea water.

Fissionable isotopes in such concentrations can easily produce great heat from fission reactions or even a nuclear explosion. An uninterrupted volume of this liquid massing a few dozen kilograms would reach critical mass, massively fission in a sustained chain reaction, and explode. In Zubrin's scheme 41,000 kilograms (41 tonnes) of the salt water fuel are stored in a neutron-absorbing fuel tank. The fuel tank would be made from long tubes of boron carbonate, a strong structural material that strongly absorbs thermal neutrons, preventing the fission chain reaction that would otherwise occur in the fuel. The liquid fuel is pumped from the storage tank into a absorber-free cylindrical reaction chamber which allows buildup of neutron flux to the critical point where sustained nuclear fission can occur.

In a nuclear rocket the reaction chamber presents a severe materials problem because no conceivable mechanical structure could sustain the force of a nuclear explosion. However, Zubrin uses a very clever trick. He has used a simplified model to show that the distribution of fission-inducing thermal neutrons in the reaction chamber depends critically on the velocity of the liquid fuel as it passes through the reaction chamber. This dependence occurs because the moving salt water fuel is also the medium in which the neutrons are slowed. If the liquid is at rest, the maximum flux occurs at the center of the cylinder, but if the moderating fuel liquid is in motion, the point of maximum flux is skewed downstream and also rises to a much higher maximum. If the right fuel velocity is chosen, the thermal neutron flux (and therefore the site of maximum fission energy release) can be made to peak very sharply just outside the exit end of the cylindrical reaction chamber.

In other words, one can produce a continuous controlled nuclear explosion in the region just behind the nuclear rocket. At this point the water of the fuel liquid flashes to very high temperature steam, expelling reaction mass with an estimated exhaust velocity of 66,000 meters per second (as compared with perhaps 4,500 m/s for a chemical rocket). The NSWR engine is calculated to produce a thrust of almost 3 million pounds (1.3 x 107 N) and to have a power output of 427 gigawatts. With this kind of performance, the mission to Titan could be launched from low earth orbit with an acceleration of almost 4 g's and could, in principle, be carried out with low launch mass, low cost and high efficiency.

Zubrin also considers how a NSWR might be used in a more ambitious 120 year one-way probe mission to Alpha Centauri. He envisions a 300 tonne spacecraft carrying 2700 tonnes of salt water fuel containing 90% enriched uranium. This highly enriched fuel would be burned in a high efficiency engine to produce an exhaust velocity of 4,700,000 m/s, permitting the spacecraft to achieve a velocity that is 3.63 % of the velocity of light. He proposes to use most of the fuel for acceleration and to use a magnetic sail for deceleration by creating drag against the interstellar medium.

What Zubrin has described, therefore, is a high-energy space propulsion technology suitable for deep space and interstellar missions that could be implemented with fairly modest extensions of current technology. Moreover, the end of the cold war has left in its wake considerable stockpiles of fissionable materials (239Pu and highly enriched 235U) from decommissioned nuclear weapons that can be regarded as a source of cheap fuel for such projects. Zubrin also points out that, despite the highly radioactive exhaust of the NSWR, the engine itself need not be radioactive to any significant degree. The fuel has only low-level alpha activity, the fission products from the consumed fuel are vented into space, and the induced activity from the large neutron flux produced by the fission burning can be minimized by constructing the engine from such low activation materials as graphite and silicon carbide. Once the engine is turned off, therefore, there should be no significant radioactive inventory present to endanger the crew of a manned mission.

The highly radioactive exhaust, of course, constitutes a major disadvantage for the NSWR scheme. The prospect of contaminating space with radioactive waste is certain to draw strong opposition from the same environmental and anti-nuclear groups that have opposed the use of nuclear power sources in NASA's deep space missions. Zubrin argues, however, that the NSWR's exhaust velocity of 66 km/sec far exceeds the escape velocity of any planet, and that as long as the exhaust vector does not intersect the Earth "the amount of contaminant reaching the Earth could be insignificant" even in an NSWR launch from low earth orbit. In fact, since the atoms of exhaust gas have sufficient velocity that they are not bound by the Sun's gravity well, the expelled exhaust will dissipate rapidly and will soon leave the Solar System altogether. Zubrin also points out that since the NSWR is not a weapon or a bomb, its testing and use does not violate the 1968 Test Ban Treaty. Therefore, unlike the Orion scheme, its use as a space propulsion system is legal.

There would, of course, be some very demanding technical challenges in designing a safe and reliable NSWR. The extremely high exhaust temperature and velocity of the device present a particular challenge in designing an exhaust nozzle for the NSWR that will not be severely eroded during a brief period. Zubrin suggests that a continuous flow of normal (unsalted) water along the surface of the reaction chamber and nozzle could provide cooling and extra reaction mass, but this remains to be demonstrated. A full design would also have to consider possible failure modes, including the possibility of a fuel pump failure that could cause a fuel detonation within rather than behind the reaction chamber. These appear to be solvable problems, but they would have to be addressed.

In summary, the NSWR appears to be a radical but feasible solution to the problem of mounting an interstellar mission with essentially existing technology. An unmanned Alpha Centauri probe of the type that Zubrin suggests could be built starting today and at a cost that I would guess would be much smaller than the growing price tag of NASA's troubled Space Station Freedom project."

Shucks, don't figure to get the big NASA job for sure, now. (grin!!)


153 posted on 11/26/2005 11:53:39 PM PST by Iris7 ("Let me go to the house of the Father.")
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To: alfa6; snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; Peanut Gallery; The Mayor; bentfeather; ...

On this Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on November 27:
1701 Anders Celsius Sweden, scientist, inventor (centigrade temp scale)
1746 Robert Livingston delivered oath of office to George Washington
1809 Frances Anne "Fanny" Kemble England, Shakespearian actress (Juliet)
1865 Jose Asuncion Silva Colombia, poet (Nocturno III)
1874 Chaim Weizmann Israeli statesman (1st President)
1874 Charles A Beard American historian (American Continentalism)
1901 Ted Husing NYC, sportscaster (Monday Night Fights)
1903 Johnny Blood aka John McNally, early NFL halfback (Green Bay)
1909 James Agee American writer (The African Queen)
1912 David Merrick Broadway producer (Hello Dolly)
1917 "Buffalo" Bob Smith Buffalo NY, TV host (Howdy Doody)
1921 Alexander Dubcek headed Czech Communist Party (1968-69)
1932 Benigno Aquino Jr Philippine opposition leader; assassinated
1940 Bruce Lee San Francisco CA, karate star/actor (Green Hornet)
1942 Jimi Hendrix rock guitarist (Jimi Hendrix Experience-Purple Haze)
1944 Eddie Rabbitt Brooklyn, country singer (I Love a Rainy Night)
1952 James D Wetherbee Flushing NY, Lt Cmdr USN/astronaut (STS-32, sk:46)
1957 Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg JFK's daughter
1959 Charlie Burchill rocker (Simple Minds-Breakfast Club)
1962 Calvin Hayes rocker (Johnny Hates Jazz-Turn Back the Clock)
1963 Fisher Stevens Chicago, actor (My Science Project, Short Circuit)
1964 Rebecca Michelle Ferratti Helena Mt, playmate (Jun, 1986)
1965 Fiachna O'Broanain rocker (Hothouse Flowers-Don't Go)
1976 Jaleel White Los Angeles CA, actor (Steve Urkel-Family Matters)



Deaths which occurred on November 27:
0008 BC Horace Latin poet & satirist, dies (birth date unknown)
0511 Clovis, King of Franks, dies at 45
1680 Athanasius Kircher, German Jesuit/inventor (lantern), dies
1852 Ada Lovelace (b.1815), daughter of Lord Byron & co-inventor of Charles Babbage's “Analytical Engine,”
1887 U.S. Deputy Marshall Frank Dalton, killed in the line of duty near Fort Smith, Ark.
http://www.gunslinger.com/dalton.html
1934 "Baby Face" Nelson [Lester Gillis], gangster, shot by FBI at 26
http://www.crimelibrary.com/gangsters_outlaws/outlaws/nelson/1.html
1934 Herman Hollis FBI agent, killed by Baby Face Nelson
1934 Sam Cowley FBI agent, killed by Baby Face Nelson
1953 Eugene O'Neill playwright, dies in Boston at 65
1965 Harry Harvey Sr actor (It's a Man's World), dies at 64
1972 Mahalia Jackson, vocalist (Got Whole World in His Hands), dies at 61
1975 Ross McWhirter Guinness Book of Records keeper, is murdered
1977 John L McClellan (Sen-D-Ark), dies at 81
1978 George Moscone (San Francisco Mayor) & City Sup Harvey Milk shot by Dan White
1981 Lotte Lenya singer/actress, dies in NY at 83
1984 Percy Norris deputy high commissioner of India, shot dead
1986 Steve Tracy actor (Percival-Little House on the Praire), dies at 61
1988 John Carradine actor, dies at 82 of kidney failure


Take A Moment To Remember
GWOT Casualties

Iraq
27-Nov-2003 1 | US: 1 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Specialist Thomas J. Sweet II Camp Junction City (Ar Ramadi) - Anbar Non-hostile - weapon discharge

27-Nov-2004 4 | US: 4 | UK: 0 | Other: 0
US Lance Corporal Joshua E. Lucero Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire
US Specialist Jeremy E. Christensen Ad Duluiyah (near, nr. Balad) - Salah ad Din Hostile - hostile fire - IED attack
US Sergeant Michael A. Smith Walter Reed Medical Ctr. Hostile - hostile fire - sniper
US Corporal Kirk J. Bosselmann Al Anbar Province Hostile - hostile fire



Afghanistan
11/27/04 Miller, Harley D. R. Specialist 21 US U.S. Army 3rd Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 25th Infantry Div. Non-Hostile - Aircraft Crash Bamyan Prov.
11/27/04 Grogan, Travis W. Chief Warrant Officer 31 US U.S. Army 3rd Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 25th Infantry Div. Non-Hostile - Aircraft Crash Bamyan Prov.
11/27/04 McMahon, Michael J. Lieutenant Colonel 41 US U.S. Army 3rd Squadron, 4th Cavalry Regiment, 25th Infantry Div. Non-Hostile - Aircraft Crash Bamyan Prov.


http://icasualties.org/oif/
Data research by Pat Kneisler
Designed and maintained by Michael White
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http://soldiersangels.org/heroes/index.php


On this day...
0043 BC Octavian, Antony and Lepidus form the triumvirate of Rome
0399 St Anastasius I begins his reign as Catholic Pope
1582 William Shakespeare marries Anne Hathaway
1759 Town officials in Stratford-upon-Avon, England, evicted the Rev. Francis Gastrell from William Shakespeare’s home after he cut down a 150-year-old tree that had been planted by the famed writer.
1815 Cracow (Poland) declared a free republic
1817 US soldiers attack Florida Indian village, beginning Seminole War
1839 American Statistical Association organizes in Boston
1863 Battle at Fort Esperanza Texas
1863 Battle of Payne's Farm, VA
1864 2nd day of Battles at Waynesboro, Georgia
1868 Lieutenant Colonel George A. Custer's 7th Cavalry kills Chief Blackkettle and about 100 Cheyenne (mostly women and children) on the Washita River.
1870 NY Times dubs baseball "The National Game"
1885 Earliest photograph of a meteor shower made
1887 U.S. Deputy Marshall Frank Dalton, brother of the three famous outlaws, is killed in the line of duty near Fort Smith, Ark.
1889 1st permit issued to drive a car through Central Park (Curtis Brady)
1890 1st signal box for San Francisco Police Department goes into operation
1895 Alfred Nobel establishes Nobel Prize
1901 Army War College established in Washington DC
1910 NY's Penn Station opens as world's largest railway terminal
1912 Albanian National Flag adopted
1912 Spanish protectorate in Morocco established
1924 57,000 watch a High School football game in LA
1926 110,000 watch Army & Navy play a 21-all tie
1926 KXL-AM in Portland OR begins radio transmissions
1926 Restoration of Williamsburg, Virginia, begins
1941 USSR begins a counter offensive causing Germany to retreat
1941 British 13th Army corp reaches Tobruk
1942 French navy at Toulon scuttles ships & subs so Nazis don't take them
1943 Conference of Teheran (Churchill-Roosevelt-Stalin)
1944 US 121st Infantry regiment opens assault on Hurtgen
1945 Gen George C Marshall named special US envoy to China
1947 Joe DiMaggio wins his 3rd MVP, beating Ted Williams by 1 vote
1951 1st rocket to intercept an airplane, White Sands, NM
1957 Army withdraws from Little Rock AR, after Central HS integration
1954 Alger Hiss, convicted of being a Soviet spy, is freed after 44 months in prison.
1958 USSR abrogates Allied war-time agreements on control of Germany
1960 Gordie Howe becomes 1st NHLer to score 1,000 points
1960 Trailing 38-7 late in 3rd quarter, Buffalo Bills tie Broncos at 38-38
1961 Gordie Howe becomes 1st to play in 1,000 NHL games
1965 1st French satellite launched, France becomes 3rd nation in space
1966 In highest-scoring NFL game, Wash Redskins defeat NY Giants 72-41
1967 Beatles release "Magical Mystery Tour"
1967 Gold pool nations pledge support of $35 per ounce gold price
1967 Charles DeGaulle vetoes Great Britain's entry into the Common Market again.
1970 George Harrison releases 3 album set "All Things Must Pass"
1970 Pope Paul VI wounded in chest during a visit to Philippines by a dagger-wielding Bolivian painter disguised as a priest
1971 Soviet Mars 2 becomes 1st spacecraft to crash land on Mars
1972 Yanks trade Ellis, Torres & Spikes to Indians for Nettles & Moses
1973 Senate votes 92-3 to confirm Gerald R Ford as VP
1980 Soyuz T-3 carries 3 cosmonauts to Salyut 6 space station, launched
1985 Republic of Ireland gains consultative role in Northern Ireland
1990 Britain's conservatives chose John Major to succeed Margaret Thatcher
1991 Undertaker beats Hulk Hogan to become new WWF champ
2000 A day after George W. Bush was certified the winner of Florida's presidential vote, Al Gore laid out his case for letting the courts settle the nation's long-count election.
2001 Afghan factions met in Bonn, Germany, and agreed to give former King Mohammad Zahir Shah a role in a new Afghan government. 4 factions included 11 delegates from the Northern Alliance, 11 from the Rome Group, 3 from exiles in Cyprus, and 3 from exiles in Pakistan.
2002 Daniel Baraniuk (27) from Gdansk, Poland, set a new pole-sitting world record, coming down from his perch in a German fun park after 196 days and nights.
2003 Pres. Bush flew to Iraq under extraordinary secrecy and security to spend Thanksgiving with US troops.
2004 Ukraine's parliament declared invalid the disputed presidential election that triggered a week of growing street protests and legal maneuvers, raising the possibility that a new vote could be held.


Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"
Paraguay : Flag Day
Burma : National Day
Cuba : Martyrs' Day
Israel : Weizmann Day
Mass : John F Kennedy Day (1963) (Sunday)
Bern Switzerland : Onion Market Day-autumn festival (Monday)
International Drum Month


Religious Observances
RC : Commemoration of the Miraculous Medal
RC : Amelberga, abbess to Susteren/patron of Temse


Religious History
1095 In France, Pope Urban II solemnly proclaimed the First Crusade at the Council of Clermont. Urban's twin_purpose was to relieve the pressure by the Seljuk Turks on the Eastern Roman Empire, and to secure free access to Jerusalem for Christian pilgrims.
1755 Land for the first Jewish settlement in America was purchased by Joseph Salvador, who bought 10,000 acres near Fort Ninety_Six, in the southern part of the Carolina Colony.
1862 Birth of Adelaide Pollard, Presbyterian hymnwriter. Plagued with frail health most of her life, she lived the life of a mystic. Of the several hymns she penned, "Have Thine Own Way, Lord" is still popular today.
1950 American missionary martyr Jim Elliot wrote in his journal: 'What gets me into the Kingdom, from Christ's own statement, is not saying "Lord, Lord," but acting "Lord, Lord."'
1953 English Christian apologist C.S. Lewis wrote in a letter: 'Anxiety is not only a pain which we must ask God to assuage but also a weakness we must ask Him to pardon __ for He's told us to take no care for the morrow.'

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


S.C. Cemetery Offers Annual Holiday Deal

Nov 26, 9:36 PM (ET)


GREENWOOD, S.C. (AP) - It's that time of year for the annual holiday special at Greenwood Memorial Gardens & Mausoleum - half price on a cemetery plot and deals on vaults and markers.
For years, the cemetery has advertised the special on U.S. 25.
"This is our way of trying to help families out during the holidays," Manager Gary Blythe said. "A lot of our customers look forward to this time of year."

Blythe said he isn't sure if anyone has actually given a spot in the cemetery or a grave marker as a Christmas gift, but business often increases once the sale starts. "Half off of a cemetery space is a good bargain," Blythe said.
Reaction to the sign advertising the sale is mixed. Some think it's a great idea, while others find it a bit odd, Blythe said.


Thought for the day :
"Whatever your advice, make it brief."
Quintus Horatius Flaccus Horace


154 posted on 11/27/2005 8:14:12 AM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: Iris7

Ok. what are the chances of this happening? Either by NASA or a private co.?


155 posted on 11/27/2005 8:21:28 AM PST by Valin (Purgamentum init, exit purgamentum)
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To: Iris7
Shucks, don't figure to get the big NASA job for sure, now. (grin!!)

LOL

156 posted on 11/27/2005 9:40:36 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Ctrl+Alt+Riiiiiiight)
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