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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - The British Valentine Tank Feb. 14, 2006
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Posted on 02/13/2006 8:35:48 PM PST by alfa6



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THE VALENTINE TANK



Based on the A10 Cruiser tank, the Valentine was privately designed by the Vickers-Armstrong corporation (hence its lack of an "A" designation) and was submitted to the War Office on February 14, 1938. Like many other projects, the Valentine was rushed into production following the loss of nearly all of Britain's equipment during the evacuation at Dunkirk.

Several versions exist concerning the source of the name Valentine. The most popular one says that the design was presented to the War Office at St. Valentine's Day (February 14). Some sources, however, claim that the exact date the design was submitted was February 10. According to other version, the tank was called Valentine in honor of Sir John Valentine Carden, the man who led the development of the A10 and many other Vickers vehicles. Yet another version says that Valentine is an acronym for Vickers-Armstrong Ltd Elswick & Newcastle-upon-Tyne.



The War Office was initially deterred by the size of the turret and the crew compartment. However, concerned by the situation in Europe, it finally approved the design in April 1939. The vehicle reached trials in May 1940, which coincided with the loss of nearly all of Britain's equipment during the evacuation at Dunkirk. The trials were successfull and the vehicle was rushed into production as Infantry Tank III Valentine.

The Valentine remained in production until April 1944, becoming Britain's most mass produced tank during the war with 6855 units manufactured in the UK (by Vickers, Metropolitan-Cammell Carriage and Wagon and Birmingham Railway Carriage and Wagon) and further 1420 in Canada. They were the Commonwealth's main export to the Soviet Union under the Lend-lease Act, with 2394 of the British models being sent and 1388 of the Canadian (the remaining 30 were kept for training).



The Valentine was Britain's most mass produced tank during the war, having manufactured 6855 and a further 1420 in Canada. They were the Commonwealth's main export to the Soviet Union under the Lend-lease Act, with 2394 of the British models being sent and 1388 of the Canadian (the remaining 30 were kept for training). In Soviet service, they were quite popular due to their small size, reliability, and generally good armour protection. In Soviet service, the Valentine was used from the Battle of Moscow until the end of the war. It was employed mostly on the southern fronts, both because of the proximity to the Persian supply route and in order to avoid using the tank in very cold climate. Although criticized for its speed and its weak gun, the Valentine was liked due to its small size, reliability and generally good armour protection.

The Valentine was something of an oddity, having the weight and size of a cruiser tank, but the armour and speed of an infantry tank. Though its armour was still weaker than the Matilda and, due to its weaker engine, it shared the same top speed, its high reliability and lower cost kept it in the war.



By 1944, in the European Theater of Operations the Valentine was almost competely replaced in the frontline units by the Churchill and the US-made Sherman. In the Pacific the tank was employed in limited numbers at least until May 1945.

There were 12 variants of the Valentine as follows:



Valentine I (350)
The first model of the Valentine, it was not sent out due to problems from rushed production. It was equipped with a 2 pdr. gun and a coaxial machine gun. Its cramped turret forced the commander to also act as the guns loader. It used a 135 hp gasoline engine.

Valentine II (700)
This model used a 131 hp diesel engine in order to increase its range. It first saw combat during Operation Crusader, at which point it began to replace the Matilda.

Valentine III
A larger turret was installed, allowing the addition of a dedicated loader to ease the duties of the commander.

Valentine IV
A II using an American 138hp GMC diesel engine. Though it had slightly lower range, it was more silent and reliable.

Valentine V
Valentine III with the American GMC engine.



Valentine VI
A Valentine built solely in Canada. It used a cast hull and a Browning machine gun in place of the Besa.

Valentine VII
Improved version of the VI- it had jettisonable fuel tanks, new tracks and an expanded turret similar to the III. Also built only in Canada.

Valentine VIII
A III upgraded with the QF 6 pdr gun. In order to fit it, the coaxial machine gun and the loader crewmember had to be removed. The side armour was made thinner to reduce weight.

Valentine IX
A V upgraded to the 6 pdr. gun. Similar reductions as the VIII.

Valentine X
A new turret design and better 165hp GMC engine. A coaxial machine gun could be fitted again. Also used welded construction.

Valentine XI
An X upgraded with the OQF 75mm gun. Only served as a command tank.



Valentine DD
Valentines fitted with Straussler's Duplex Drive. Used by crews in training for the Sherman DD's of the Normandy Landings.


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To: The Mayor
Also ask your nephew if he has heard of us. Primary Challenge and Free Buffalo and my friend Satish Mohan.. Honestly, ask him.

I will probably see my son-in-law on Friday, will try to remember to ask him, FWIW he hasn't lived in the Bufalo area for over ten years.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

61 posted on 02/15/2006 4:58:44 AM PST by alfa6
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To: alfa6

Where does he live now then?


62 posted on 02/15/2006 5:01:21 AM PST by The Mayor ( Check out my site http://www.rusthompson.com/HomeImprovementandRemodelingTips.html)
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To: The Mayor

He is here in KC. He is one of the reasons I got into the fixin up house business :-)

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


63 posted on 02/15/2006 5:22:30 AM PST by alfa6
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To: alfa6

OH, he may not know of us then, we just started raising hell up here last year.


64 posted on 02/15/2006 5:31:11 AM PST by The Mayor ( Check out my site http://www.rusthompson.com/HomeImprovementandRemodelingTips.html)
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To: w_over_w

LOL! Great picture! :-)


65 posted on 02/15/2006 6:27:43 AM PST by SAMWolf (In some cultures what I do would be considered normal.)
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To: PAR35

Yeah it looks like they found out they didn't have enoough of the same size road wheels to put the Bishop together and found some "spares" that would fit.


66 posted on 02/15/2006 6:31:06 AM PST by SAMWolf (In some cultures what I do would be considered normal.)
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To: Iris7

Thanks Iris7. There are some armor sites that have kept track of the RTR Tiger restoration. Lots of great photos there. :-)


67 posted on 02/15/2006 6:35:39 AM PST by SAMWolf (In some cultures what I do would be considered normal.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; Professional Engineer; Valin; bentfeather; All

A Hump Day Bump for the Freeper Foxhole

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

68 posted on 02/15/2006 6:56:38 AM PST by alfa6
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To: PAR35
Thanks for the insight . . . I'll pass on the Chinese beer.
69 posted on 02/15/2006 7:39:32 AM PST by w_over_w (Don't tell me to go to your BLOG . . . just tell me how your day was.)
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To: alfa6
Thanks for the background on the Arch . . . good read. Nothing makes a picture more presentable than a group of F4s flying by.
70 posted on 02/15/2006 7:41:04 AM PST by w_over_w (Don't tell me to go to your BLOG . . . just tell me how your day was.)
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To: bentfeather

Morning Ms. Feather . . . stick with us, we'll learn you good. ;)


71 posted on 02/15/2006 7:42:00 AM PST by w_over_w (Don't tell me to go to your BLOG . . . just tell me how your day was.)
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To: w_over_w

I wrote a pome yesterday, would you like a link to it??


72 posted on 02/15/2006 7:44:49 AM PST by Soaring Feather (~www.proudpatriots.org~Supporting Our TROOPS~)
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To: Iris7
The most powerful earthquake? Well, on January 17, 1994 I lived about 6mi. from the epicenter of the Northridge, CA Earthquake (6.7 blind thrust). Try to imagine the sound of a train coming through your bedroom at 4AM. Then four people grab each corner of your mattress and fling you airborne out of the bed and onto the floor. You gradually regain your faculties and then it starts all over again with major aftershocks.

I had to drive into work that morning to appraise the damage to our systems . . . the entire face of our eight story building had fallen off into the Blvd. below. I could share more but just sharing this much is starting to creep me out . . . I think the most powerful earthquake is the last one we survived. IMHO.

73 posted on 02/15/2006 7:57:41 AM PST by w_over_w (Don't tell me to go to your BLOG . . . just tell me how your day was.)
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To: SAMWolf

Howdy Sam! Thanks for taking time out from playing submarine ga . . . err . . . from your busy schedule to say hello. ;^)


74 posted on 02/15/2006 7:59:43 AM PST by w_over_w (Don't tell me to go to your BLOG . . . just tell me how your day was.)
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To: bentfeather
One of the easiest questions I've ever been asked.

Link me!!!

xoxoxo

75 posted on 02/15/2006 8:02:33 AM PST by w_over_w (Don't tell me to go to your BLOG . . . just tell me how your day was.)
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To: w_over_w
Thanks for taking time out from playing submarine ga...

I wonder who started that unfounded rumor?????

76 posted on 02/15/2006 8:10:17 AM PST by SAMWolf (In some cultures what I do would be considered normal.)
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To: w_over_w

Two pomes.


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1550597/posts?page=517#517

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1550597/posts?page=542#542

Thank You.


77 posted on 02/15/2006 8:12:21 AM PST by Soaring Feather (~www.proudpatriots.org~Supporting Our TROOPS~)
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To: bentfeather
The first one knocked my breath out . . . who hasn't experienced her broken heart?

The more things change the more they stay the same. Brilliant.

The second poem is very rich in fantasy and yet it too portrays the broken heart.

How blessed that both hearts found love again.
[Oh geez! You're making me all mushy in a military thread . . . don't tell anyone!]

78 posted on 02/15/2006 8:37:31 AM PST by w_over_w (Don't tell me to go to your BLOG . . . just tell me how your day was.)
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To: w_over_w

Thanks for reading them and the comments on both of them.


You may comment on my thread if you wish. ;)


I would love that.


79 posted on 02/15/2006 8:53:51 AM PST by Soaring Feather (~www.proudpatriots.org~Supporting Our TROOPS~)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Iris7; Valin; PAR35; alfa6; U S Army EOD; Peanut Gallery; USMCBOMBGUY; ...
Evening Grace Folks~

Triple Divide Peak in Glacier National Park, Montana

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80 posted on 02/15/2006 5:51:30 PM PST by w_over_w (The more things change the more they stay the same. ~Bentfeather~)
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