Posted on 03/30/2006 8:42:07 PM PST by republican4ever
Ok Just a thought,
Does that mean I won't see any of those day laborers lining up for tax free cash work?
That's a start.
Perhaps they can protest a whole year or so. Now that would be progress....
I think many of us feel that way. The illegals and their activism is subtracting from the positive feelings we have had of latinos.
Yep, this really could get ugly.
Congressman Billybob
Frankly, there are a lot of radical right wing freepers who have not assimilated either. Do you want to kick them out too ? I can start naming names, but frankly their "people skills" are lacking.
10 million on strike will cost about 80 million man hours.
at 10 dollars per hour, this might cost the economy 800 million dollars which is easily absorbed by the us economy.
This is a bad move by the illegals and we should ignore it.
I thank your father for his service.
My parents were immigrants from Europe. They waited their turn, abided by the rules, and were very happy and proud to become citizens. I think that families like yours and mine are what made this country great. I don't want illegal Europeans here either. I don't know how we are going to solve this problem.
Just a question here (it might sound stupid, but have never been able to answer it):
My grandparents immigrated to the US from Spain; I was born and raised in a Central American country; my mother was from that same country... what does that make me, aside from an American? Hispanic, Latina?
I do not feel, -nor have ever felt- as if I belong there. More like the damn stork dropped me wherever!!!!
Go to www.reconquista.us and read the part about Commie influence in organizing the rallies.
Do I want to kick who out? Those Freepers who have very little people skills and compassion? In response I will ask you a question.
Have they broken our laws and are they citizens?
The only people who I have known who used "latino" to describe themselves were anti-gringo. It is a loaded word, compadre.
To me, you would be an American. But I know you said "aside from an American."
This is from the U.S. Census Bureau:
"Hispanic Origin. Persons of Hispanic origin in this file are determined on the basis of question that asked for self-identification of the person's origin or descent. Respondents are asked to select their origin (Or the origin of some other household member) from a "flash card" listing ethnic origins. Persons of Hispanic origin, in particular, are those who indicated that their origin was Mexican-American, Chicano, Mexican, Mexicano, Puerto Rican, Cuban, Central or South American, or other Hispanic."
According to the Wikipedia:
"Often the term "Hispanic" is used synonymously with the word "Latino", and frequently with "Latin" as well. Even though the terms may sometimes overlap in meaning, they are not completely synonymous.
Latin in this context refers to "Latin America," a term introduced by the French in the 1860s when they dreamed of building an empire based in Mexico. It was closely connected to the introduction of French positivism into Latin American intellectual circles. [1] The French correctly understood "Latin" to include themselves and exclude the "Anglo-Saxons" of the US and the UK.
"Hispanic", on the other hand, specifically refers to Spain, and to the Spanish-speaking nations of the Americas as cultural and demographic extensions of Spain.
Meanwhile, Latinos are only those from the countries of Latin America, whether Spanish or Portuguese-speaking, though in the latter case, not so frequently and with some ambiguities.
The confusion that arises is from the similarity between the words Latino and Latin, and between the concept of Hispanic and Latino. Latino is a shortened version of the noun Latinoamérica (Latin America). In the Spanish language "Latín" (Latin) is the name of the language of the Romans. It also means Latin people such as Italian, French, Romanian, Portuguese and as such is not confined solely to Hispanics and Latinos.
Thus, of a group consisting of a Brazilian, a Colombian, a Mexican, a Spaniard, and a Romanian; the Brazilian, Colombian, and Mexican would all be Latinos, but not the Spaniard or the Romanian, since neither Spain nor Romania are geographically situated in Latin America. Conversely, the Colombian, Mexican and Spaniard would all be Hispanics, but not the Brazilian or the Romanian, since Brazil was colonized by the Portuguese, and neither Portugal or Romania are extensions of Spain. The one exception for a Brazilian to be considered Hispanic is if his ancestry was Spanish. Finally, all of the above nationalities would all be Latin, including the Romanian.
Along the same lines, one should note that the term Latino is never, or very rarely, applied to French-speaking Québécois of Canada or Haitians. The categories of "Latino" and "Hispanic" are used primarily in the United States to socially differentiate people. As social categories they are not mutually exclusive and without ambiguities and cannot be seen as independent of social discrimination (socio-economic, ethnic or racial).
Aside from "Hispanic", "Latino", and "Latin", other terms are used for more specific subsets of the Hispanic population. These terms often relate to specific countries of origin, such as "Mexican", "Mexican-American", "Cuban", "Puerto Rican" or "Dominican", etc. Other terms signify distinct cultural patterns among Hispanics which have emerged in what is now the United States, including "Chicano", "Tejano", "Nuyorican", etc."
I think Hispanic would work for you, but I don't really know.
What really concerns me is that you don't feel like you belong here. I didn't grow up anywhere else like you did, so it is easier for me. Yet, even so, when I see some of the social engineering going on, sometimes I feel like I have been dropped on another planet myself!
What is the issue(s) that makes you feel like you don't belong?
No country is perfect, but look at the values and see if you feel aligned with them. For example, do you believe in freedom -- to worship, to go to school where you want, live where you want (within your own country, of course; I don't mean to force another country to take you), to be able to read both sides of an issue, to be able to vote, to express your opinion; do you believe in a classless society, that noone can force you into slavery, etc.?
I don't want to kick out anyone.
I do get annoyed with posts like #5 who want kick other people out.
Read post number 5
"Time for the real conservatives on FR,
be it Republicans, Independents or Democrats
(like Zell Miller and John O'Neill) to band together
and oust the looney left and RINO's
What would you do with those (Irish, Latvian, Honduran, Mexican, Russian, etc.) who are in this country breaking our immigration laws and depleting our taxes/social services, if not deport them???
Guest worker program.
We pay 125,000 per kid to school in the public schools.
A guest worker program where we import adults, let them work here for 4-5 years, and send them home before they start developing old age illnesses, or have kids, and we get a great bargain and the guest worker goes home with what amounts to a small fortune in terms of their home country.
Oooops! I think I was not clear enough... I feel I belong here (in the US) I never felt I belonged where I was born and raised!
Anyway, I am glad that's settled and that all is well!
Finally, a weekday day without gas powered edgers, leaf-blowers and lawn mowers at 7 AM.
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