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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Iwo Jima - Feb. 19th, 2003
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Posted on 02/19/2003 5:36:51 AM PST by SAMWolf

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The Costliest Operation
in Marine Corps History

On Monday, February 19, 1945, U.S. Marines hit the sands of Iwo Jima.

The battle for Iwo Jima can be described in many ways.

Most simply, 70,000 Marines routed 22,000 Japanese in a 36 day battle. It bore little resemblance to today's' modern warfare. It was a fight of gladiators. Gladiators in the catacombs of the Coliseum fighting among trap doors and hidden tunnels. Above ground gladiators using liquid gasoline to burn the underground gladiators out of their lethal hiding places.



The Marines had overwhelming force and controlled the sea and air. The Japanese had the most ingenious and deadly fortress in military history.

The Marines had Esprit de Corps and felt they could not lose. The Japanese fought for their god-Emperor and felt they had to die fighting.



The Marines were projecting American offensive power thousands of miles from home shores with a momentum that would carry on to create the Century of the Pacific. The Japanese were fighting a tenacious defensive battle protecting the front door to their ancient land.

The geography, topography and geology of the island guaranteed a deadly and bizarre battle. The large numbers of men and small size of the island ensured the fighting would be up close and vicious.

Almost one hundred thousand men would fight on a tiny island just eight square miles. Four miles by two miles. If you're driving 60 miles an hour in your car, it takes you four minutes to drive four miles. It took the Marines 36 days to slog that four miles. Iwo Jima would be the most densely populated battlefield of the war with one hundred thousand combatants embraced in a death dance over an area smaller than one third the size of Manhattan island.



From the air the island looked like a bald slice of black moonscape shaped like a porkchop. All its foliage had been blown off by bombs. The only "life" visible on the island were puffs of "rotten egg" stinking sulphur fumes coming from vents that seemed connected to hell. Correspondents in airplanes could see tens of thousands of Marines on one side of the island fighting against a completely barren side of stone.

On foot it was a morass of soft volcanic sand or a jumble of jagged rock. The Marines sought protection in shell holes blasted by the bombardment. Foxholes were impossible to dig, either the sand collapsed in on you or your shovel failed to dent the hard obsidian floor.

Bullets and mortars would come from nowhere to kill. The Marines would come across a cave or blockhouse and shoot and burn all its defenders to death. They would peer into the cavern and assure themselves no one was left there to hurt them. They'd move on only to be shocked when that "dead" position came alive again behind them. The Marines thought they were fighting men in isolated caves and had no idea of the extensive tunnels below.



A surgeon would establish an operating theater in a safe place. With sandbags and tarp he'd build a little hospital and treat his patients away from the battle. Then at night when he lay down exhausted to sleep he'd hear foreign voices below him. Only when his frantic fingers clawed through the sand and hit the wooden roof of an underground cavern would he realize he had been living atop the enemy all along.

The days were full of fear and nights offered terror. The Marines were sleeping on ground that the Japanese had practiced how to crawl over in the darkness, they knew every inch. Imagine sleeping in a haunted man- sion where the owner is a serial murderer who knows the rooms and stairways and trapdoors by touch and you are new. Then you can imagine the tortured sleep of the Marines.

Experienced naval doctors had never seen such carnage. Japanese tanks and high caliber anti-aircraft guns hidden behind walls of rock and concrete ensured that the Marines would not just be cut down, but cut in half or blown to bits.

A seventy five year old veteran of Iwo Jima would still reflexively open his bedroom window in 1999 after dreaming of the battle once again. Fifty four years after the battle the stench of death still filled his nostrils.



The bodies lay everywhere. Young boys who had never been to a funeral became accustomed to rolling another dead buddy aside. Kids full of life worked on burial duty unloading bodies from trucks stacked with death.

Mothers back home would tear open the ominous telegrams with trembling fingers. The survivors would remember sailing away and seeing the rows and rows of white crosses and stars of Davids. Almost seven thousand. Today there are still over six thousand Japanese dead still entombed under the island, dead where they fell in their tunnels and caves. Recently two hundred sixty were excavated, some mummified by the sulphur gases, their glasses sitting straight atop preserved noses, hair still on their heads.

Military geniuses predicted a three day battle, an "easy time." Some of the nicest boys America would ever produce slogged on for thirty six days in what would be the worst battle in the history of the US Marine Corps.

Generals conferred over maps while tanks, airplanes, naval bombs and artillery pounded the island. But it was the individual Marine on the ground with a gun that won the battle. Marines without gladiator's armor who would advance into withering fire. Marines who would not give up simply because they were Marines. A mint in Washington would cast more medals for these Iwo Jima heroes than for any group of fighters in America's history.



America would embrace these heroes, but they were enthralled by an image of heroism, by a photo. Millions of words would be written in the US about 1/400th of a second no one on Iwo Jima thought worthy of remark at the time. Thousands would seek autographs from three survivors who felt "we hadn't done much." Battles would be fought over that image, some dying early because of their inclusion, some living bitterly because of their exclusion.

But that would all come later. After two battles were fought on Iwo Jima, one for Mt. Suribachi and the southern part of the island the other for the northern part. And after one hundred thousand individual battles, personal battles of valor and fear, of determination and dirt.



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The Heroes Of Iwo Jima


Three days after that (the flag raising), the war was over for Easy Company.

Easy's original total force on Iwo Jima was 310 young men, including replacements. On March 26, Captain Severance led his 50 survivors on a tour of the newly dedicated 5th Division cemetery. And then they traveled by a small boat to the transport, the Winged Arrow, for the trip back home. They had to climb a cargo net to get aboard. Many were so weak that they had to be pulled over the rail by sailors.

When I asked Severance, many years later, exactly how it finally ended, he thought for a moment and then replied: "We had all the real estate."



Severance was the only one of six Easy Company ofhcers to walk off the island. Of his 3rd Platoon, the one that first scaled Suribachi, only Harold Keller, Jim Michaels, Phil Ward, and Grady Dyce came through the battle untouched. Easy Company had suffered eighty-four percent casualties.

Of the eighteen triumphant boys in ]oe Rosenthal's "gung-ho" (1st) flag raising photograph, fourteen were casualties.

The hard statistics show the sacrifice made by Colonel Johnson's 2nd Battalion: 1,400 boys landed on D-Day; 288 replacements were provided as the battle went on, a total of 1,688. Of these, 1,511 had been killed or wounded. Only 177 walked off the island. And of the final 177, 91 had been wounded at least once and returned to battle.

It had taken twenty-two crowded transports to bring the 5th Division to the island. The survivors fit comfortably onto eight departing ships. The American boys had killed about 21,000 Japanese, but suffered more than 26,000 casualties doing so. This would be the only battle in the Pacific where the invaders suffered higher casualties than the defenders. The Marines fought in World War II for forty-three months. Yet in one month on Iwo ]ima, one third of their total deaths occurred. They left behind the Pacific's largest cemeteries: nearly 6,800 graves in all; mounds with their crosses and stars. Thousands of families would not have the solace of a body to bid farewell: just the abstract information that the Marine had "died in the performance of his duty" and was buried in a plot, aligned in a row with numbers on his grave. Mike lay in Plot 3, Row 5, Grave 694; Harlon in Plot 4, Row 6, Grave 912; Franklin in Plot 8, Row 7, Grave 2189.



When I think of Mike, Harlon, and Franklin there, I think of the message someone had chiseled outside the cemetery:

When you go home
Tell them for us and say
For your tomorrow
We gave our today

1 posted on 02/19/2003 5:36:51 AM PST by SAMWolf
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To: MistyCA; AntiJen; Victoria Delsoul; SassyMom; bentfeather; GatorGirl; radu; souris; SpookBrat; ...
Final Analysis of the Battle




The Naval bombardment of only 3 days leading up to the invasion was far short than what was required. The Marines had requested 13 days of prelanding bombardment but were denied this request because of commitments to MaCarthur's campaign in Luzon.
The U.S. had underestimated the Japanese strenght on the island by as much as 70 percent.
The change in Japanese tactics was not ever contemplated because of earlier invasions on Saipan, Tarawa and Peleliu. These all had early Banzai attacks that were easily defeated and turned the tide of each invasion. This would not be the case with Iwo Jima. The nature and the difficulty of the soil on the island was never examined before the invasion.
The estimates made on the U.S. casualties was underestimated by 80 percent. 23,000 Casualties out of 70,000 Marines. Over third of the total Marines who participated in the invasion were either Killed, Wounded or suffered from Battle Fatigue.
This would be a strong warning of what was to come with the invasion of Okinawa.


Total Losses

U.S. personnel 6,821 Killed 19,217 Wounded 2,648 Combat Fatigue Total 28,686
Marine Casualties 23,573
Japanese Troops 1,083 POW and 20,000 est. Killed

Q: I have a relative who served on Iwo Jima. How can I learn about his past?"

A:
1.
Get his service record from:
Military Records Facility 9700 Page Avenue St. Louis, Missouri 63132-5100 NAVY and MARINE CORPS (314) 538-4141 NARA Facilities

2. From that record you can determine his unit. Just as your identity goes from general to specific--ie, Country, State, City, Street--your Marine or Corpsman was identified by his Division, Regiment, Battalion, Company and then Platoon designation.

3. Send that information to one of the following Divisions, asking for people who knew your relative:
Third Marine Division Association PO Box 297 Dumfries, VA 22026
Fourth Marine Division Association PO Box 595 Laurel, Fl. 34272
Fifth Marine Division Association Dean F. Keeley PO Box 44250 Lafayette, LA 70504-4250

Q: I am looking for a list of those KIA on Iwo Jima?

A: I know of no complete listing. The most complete I'm aware of is at: www.geocities.com/mbackstr2000/dead

2 posted on 02/19/2003 5:37:20 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: All
'Among the Americans who served on Iwo Jima, uncommon valor was a common virtue.'

-- Admiral Chester Nimitz


3 posted on 02/19/2003 5:37:44 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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4 posted on 02/19/2003 5:38:05 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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Thanks, Doughty!

5 posted on 02/19/2003 5:38:30 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: All
Good Morning Everybody.


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6 posted on 02/19/2003 5:38:56 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: SAMWolf; All
Good Morning Sam, everyone.
7 posted on 02/19/2003 5:45:11 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: SAMWolf
Great thread as always, SAM.
8 posted on 02/19/2003 5:51:29 AM PST by CholeraJoe
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To: bentfeather
Morning Feather, CholeraJoe.

You two having a contest to see who gets here first every morning?
9 posted on 02/19/2003 5:56:56 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: SAMWolf
You two having a contest ?

I guess I won today!

10 posted on 02/19/2003 6:05:58 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: coteblanche
Thank you Cote. Hard Hitting poem and a great ribute to the Marines at Iwo.
12 posted on 02/19/2003 6:35:38 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: SAMWolf
Good morning SAMWolf and thank you for posting the Battle of Iwo Jima. My grandfather was involved in the invasion and he was wounded in the foot in the battle.
13 posted on 02/19/2003 7:09:26 AM PST by Sparta (Statism is a Mental Illness)
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To: sphinx; Toirdhealbheach Beucail; curmudgeonII; roderick; Notforprophet; river rat; csvset; ...
Iwo ping!!

If you want on or off the Western Civilization Military History ping list, let me know.
14 posted on 02/19/2003 7:10:09 AM PST by Sparta (Statism is a Mental Illness)
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To: Sparta
Good Morning Sparta.

I'm grateful for your grandfathers service.
15 posted on 02/19/2003 7:13:27 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: Sparta
Big grateful bump. Once again this is one of the best threads on FR.
16 posted on 02/19/2003 7:17:12 AM PST by KantianBurke (The Federal govt should be protecting us from terrorists, not handing out goodies)
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To: SAMWolf
Thank you. I don't want to ruin your day, but you heard about the Germans convicting a conspirator in the 9/11 attacks. He only recieved 15 years total. Germany is truly a pathetic nation.
17 posted on 02/19/2003 7:21:08 AM PST by Sparta (Statism is a Mental Illness)
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To: KantianBurke
Yes this is one of the best threads here. Even though a ping to only a select few, I try to read all of them.
18 posted on 02/19/2003 7:22:31 AM PST by Sparta (Statism is a Mental Illness)
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To: Sparta
I know, it comes out to less that 2 days per victim.

I almost think France and Germany are in a contest to see who can be head Euro-Weenie.

19 posted on 02/19/2003 7:37:40 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: Sparta; KantianBurke
Thanks Sparta, KantianBurke. Appreciate it.
20 posted on 02/19/2003 7:38:52 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: Warrior Nurse; JAWs; DryLandSailor; NikkiUSA; OneLoyalAmerican; Tester; U S Army EOD; sonsa; ...
FALL IN to the FReeper Foxhole!

To be removed from this list, send me a private reply with "REMOVE" in the subject line. Thanks, Jen

21 posted on 02/19/2003 8:02:18 AM PST by Jen (FALL IN to the FReeper Foxhole! (VetsCoR Forum))
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To: AntiJen
FALL IN to the FReeper Foxhole!

Ouch... can't you guys put a sign up or something? Geez... Now I'm all muddy ;0)

22 posted on 02/19/2003 8:04:56 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ("As God as my witness.....I thought Armadillos could fly")
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Duchess, you'll love this thread! Do you have any pix of your dad you'd like to share with us?
23 posted on 02/19/2003 8:05:04 AM PST by Jen (FALL IN to the FReeper Foxhole! (VetsCoR Forum))
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Ping!
24 posted on 02/19/2003 8:05:16 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ("As God as my witness.....I thought Armadillos could fly")
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To: AntiJen
GMTA
25 posted on 02/19/2003 8:07:11 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ("As God as my witness.....I thought Armadillos could fly")
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To: AntiJen
BTTT!!!!!!
26 posted on 02/19/2003 8:08:45 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: AntiJen
Good Morning Jen.
27 posted on 02/19/2003 8:08:51 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Good camo, eh???
28 posted on 02/19/2003 8:09:17 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
GMTA? I'm almost afraid to ask what that means. Does it have anything to do with Armadillos? In your trousers? ;-)

I have a couple bottles of Perrier that you can use to wash off the mud. Finally found a good use for the stuff!

29 posted on 02/19/2003 8:10:10 AM PST by Jen (FALL IN to the FReeper Foxhole! (VetsCoR Forum))
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To: E.G.C.
Hello!!!!!! (yep, I counted your !'s) ;-)
30 posted on 02/19/2003 8:11:21 AM PST by Jen (FALL IN to the FReeper Foxhole! (VetsCoR Forum))
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To: SAMWolf
Howdy Sam. Wowser, what a good thread!!
31 posted on 02/19/2003 8:12:14 AM PST by Jen (FALL IN to the FReeper Foxhole! (VetsCoR Forum))
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To: AntiJen
Thanks Jen.
32 posted on 02/19/2003 8:14:11 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: KantianBurke; Sparta; SAMWolf
Once again this is one of the best threads on FR.

I'm glad you fellas agree!

Sam, you're the best! Thanks so much for the hard work you do every day for the Foxhole!

33 posted on 02/19/2003 8:14:28 AM PST by Jen (FALL IN to the FReeper Foxhole! (VetsCoR Forum))
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To: AntiJen
GMTA = Great Minds Think Alike" (and thanks for the Perrier... should work great) ;0)
34 posted on 02/19/2003 8:14:28 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ("As God as my witness.....I thought Armadillos could fly")
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To: AntiJen

35 posted on 02/19/2003 8:19:59 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Whew! I'm not going to tell you what I thought it meant. ;-)
36 posted on 02/19/2003 8:22:09 AM PST by Jen (What?!? Armadillos can't fly?)
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To: SAMWolf
Timing is everything. If only they had known that the bomb was coming soon, this carnage could have been avoided.
37 posted on 02/19/2003 8:27:51 AM PST by Protagoras
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To: SAMWolf
I read that Iwo Jima was now a Japanese military installation and was nearly impossible to visit.

Our the graves of our soldiers still located on this island?
38 posted on 02/19/2003 8:29:33 AM PST by gridlock (All we are saying, Is give war a chance....)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Oh, you didn't see our signs?


39 posted on 02/19/2003 8:30:14 AM PST by Jen (That's what happens when you're looking for flying Armadillos...)
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To: SAMWolf
Superb thread, as always. My sincere thanks..

What is often overlooked in the history of the battle for Iwo Jima is the reason why the island was invaded. The USAAF was beginning the heavy bombardment of the Japanese home islands from Tinian and other bases, and an emergency landing strip was needed for the B-29's on te round trip to Japan. The first battled damaged B-29 actually ditched in the water alongside the Navy ships during the 8th day of the battle, way before the island was taken. Later, during the end of the campaign, when the emergency airfield was operating, but a third or so of the island was still in Jap hands, some bombers that successfully made emergency landings were destroyed on the ground by Japanese mortars.

It's been conservatively estimated that the lives of over 15,000 American aircrew were saved by the capture of Iwo Jima.

40 posted on 02/19/2003 8:30:52 AM PST by ken5050
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To: AntiJen; Chad Fairbanks; SAMWolf
Thank you so much for pinging me...and yes, I'll be sharing pictures and telling stories all day, if you can stand it. : )


41 posted on 02/19/2003 8:31:42 AM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Uncommon valor was a common virtue." - Admiral Chester Nimitz)
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To: coteblanche
Wow. John Cole. What a poet. He doesn't let you avert your eyes. Is this poem anthologized?
42 posted on 02/19/2003 8:33:47 AM PST by ricpic
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To: SAMWolf
Total Losses U.S. personnel 6,821 Killed 19,217 Wounded 2,648 Combat Fatigue Total 28,686

Marine Casualties 23,573 Japanese Troops 1,083 POW and 20,000 est. Killed

I am confused. You list U.S. personnel total casualities of 28,686 and Marine casualities of 23,573.

Are these seperate figures? Did we have a total casualty number of 52,259?

43 posted on 02/19/2003 8:36:28 AM PST by AxelPaulsenJr (Get High on Life)
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To: AntiJen
"Patriots' Rally For America IV!!"

"Drop what you’re doing. Pack the car, get on a plane, a train, a bus or start walking. Our troops need your support right now! They’re laying it on the line for us overseas and all they are seeing in the media is hundreds of thousands of anti-war/anti-American demonstrators marching in our streets. As evidenced by this article Anti-war Protests Anger U.S. Troops Inside Kuwait those demonstrations are starting to affect morale. You can do something about that, but it will take time, effort and sacrifice -- a modest sacrifice compared to our men and women in uniform waiting for the the word to take out Saddam and his tyrannical terrorist regime. The D.C. Chapter of Free Republic urges all FReepers and lurkers in good standing, as well as their friends and families, veterans and their friends and families and all others who want to stand up for America and support our troops to join us in Washington, D.C. on Saturday, March 1, 2003 for the Patriots Rally for America IV from 11 a.m. until 3 p.m at the outdoor Sylvan Theater on the grounds of the Washington Monument."

BE THERE or else spend the rest of yer life LYIN' SAYIN' YOU WUZ!!!!

Oughtta be a HOOt...MUD

BTW...has anybody contacted Rush Limbaugh's folks about this?...it's got Dan's Bake Sale written all over it!!

44 posted on 02/19/2003 8:38:38 AM PST by Mudboy Slim (Git the US Outta the UN...and Git Ashcroft Outta the DOJ!!!)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I can handle it... can't speak for everyone else though (but I'm sure they will love to hear them)
45 posted on 02/19/2003 8:40:55 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks ("As God as my witness.....I thought Armadillos could fly")
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To: gridlock
58th Anniversary of Iwo Jima
March 6, 2003 through March 14, 2003

Price: $$3295
Tour Director: Warren Wiedhahn, Gary Andrejak and Jim Pilkington
Tour Host: MajGen Fred Haynes, USMC (Ret), Dr. George Gentile and Mr. Cyril "Cy" O'Brien

Apparently you still can go to Iwo.
46 posted on 02/19/2003 8:45:55 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: ken5050
Thanks Ken5050 for the background on the reasoning for taking Iwo. Airstrips played an important role in the Pacific war. The entire Guadacanal Campaign was pretty much centered on capturing/recapturing Henderson field,
47 posted on 02/19/2003 8:49:56 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
We'd be honored. Thanks to your dad for his service.
48 posted on 02/19/2003 8:50:46 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
I am confused. You list U.S. personnel total casualities of 28,686 and Marine casualities of 23,573.

28,686 US Casualties of which 23,573 were Marines.

50 posted on 02/19/2003 8:54:23 AM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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