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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers General John Buford at Gettysburg (7/1/1863) - Sep. 10th, 2003
www.bufordsboys.com ^ | Eric J. Wittenberg

Posted on 09/10/2003 12:00:26 AM PDT by SAMWolf

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To: Darksheare
The RoughRiders
RoadHouse
Tombstone
You Know My Name
61 posted on 09/10/2003 11:41:54 AM PDT by SAMWolf (US Marines - Travel Agents to Allah)
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To: SAMWolf
Hated Roadhouse.
Saw RoughRiders, but don't rightly remember much about it.
Tombstone, I didn't see all the way through.
Haven't heard of the last one.
Arrr.

62 posted on 09/10/2003 11:56:01 AM PDT by Darksheare ("It's Howdy Doody time kiddies... the Bad Man is here..")
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To: SAMWolf
Good afternoon...graphics with attitude

For Tomorrow........


63 posted on 09/10/2003 12:10:17 PM PDT by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: SAMWolf
"[Galloway is on the ground]

Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: You can't take any pictures from down there, son.

[Galloway gets up and is handed a rifle]

Joseph Galloway: I'm a non-combatant.

Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: Ain't no such thing today."

64 posted on 09/10/2003 12:14:41 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Iron Horse)
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To: Darksheare
Produced for U.S. cable outlet TNT, You Know My Name is based on the colorful true story of Bill Tilghman, who went from Wild West lawman to Hollywood filmmaker to lawman again. Tilghman, played by Sam Elliott, was once an associate of Wyatt Earp and had run-ins with such famous outlaws as Cattle Annie and Little Britches.

After retiring from law enforcement, Tilghman moved to California and began producing a series of silent Westerns that stressed historical authenticity over the grand-standing heroics of Tom Mix and William S. Hart.

However, his films lacked name stars and failed to click at the box office.

After his career in film went bust, Tilghman, nearly 70, answered a call from a friend to help him reform Cromwell, Oklahoma. Once called "the most sinful town in America," Cromwell was a place where vice was freely traded in many forms and the only peace officer was a violent, cocaine-addicted tyrant named Wiley (Arliss Howard). ~ Mark Deming, All Movie Guide

65 posted on 09/10/2003 12:22:03 PM PDT by SAMWolf (US Marines - Travel Agents to Allah)
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To: GailA
Good Afternoon GailA.

Can't get the graphic to show but the name sure is interesting.
66 posted on 09/10/2003 12:23:43 PM PDT by SAMWolf (US Marines - Travel Agents to Allah)
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To: SAMWolf
Bill Tilghman

Wasn't he the guy who popularized the story of the Gunfight at the OK Corral?

67 posted on 09/10/2003 12:31:20 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Iron Horse)
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To: colorado tanker
Sergeant Ernie Savage: Beautiful morning, Sergeant!
Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: What are you a f***ing weatherman now?

Sergeant Major Basil Plumley: Any one of you pussies call me grandpa, I'll kill ya.

Elliot had some of the best lines in "We were Soldiers"

68 posted on 09/10/2003 12:33:40 PM PDT by SAMWolf (US Marines - Travel Agents to Allah)
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To: stand watie
Maj. Gen. Isaac R. Trimble: General Ewell, I said to him, "Sir, give me one division and I will take that hill." And he said nothing at all, he stood there, he stared at me.

I said, "General Ewell, give me one brigade, and I will take that hill." And General Ewell put his arms behind him and blinked.

So I said, "General, give me one regiment, and I will take that hill!" And he said nothing! He just stood there! I threw down my sword in front of him! We could have done it, sir. A blind man should have seen it.

On Ewell's failure to press on and take Culp's Hill on the evening of July, 1st, 1863.

69 posted on 09/10/2003 12:36:28 PM PDT by SAMWolf (US Marines - Travel Agents to Allah)
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To: colorado tanker
I believe so. Not sure though.
70 posted on 09/10/2003 12:37:04 PM PDT by SAMWolf (US Marines - Travel Agents to Allah)
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To: SAMWolf
On Ewell's failure to press on and take Culp's Hill on the evening of July, 1st, 1863.

That's why we fight the battles, isn't it Sam? The strangest stuff happens in the "fog of war." Culp's Hill should have been taken and Chamberlain's flank should have been turned, but neither happened.

71 posted on 09/10/2003 12:40:32 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Iron Horse)
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To: colorado tanker
Yep, the "should ofs" and "could ofs" of History.
72 posted on 09/10/2003 12:44:37 PM PDT by SAMWolf (US Marines - Travel Agents to Allah)
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To: SAMWolf
I heard somthing interesting this morning regarding the Liberty threads. Alan Dershowitz has written a book answering the critics of Israel, particularly over the Pali issue, and is on a promotional tour. He was interviewed on the radio this morning and was asked about the Liberty attack.

Dershowitz argued the attack has been proven an accident and only conspiracy theorists believe otherwise. His evidence is motive - that it would be foolish for Israel to attack its ally. Second, he argued they would have sunk the ship to leave no witnesses if the attack were intentional.

He did not consider either of the two motives discussed yesterday, that the attack was to shut off US intel from going to Egypt or to protect a nuclear secret, such as possible deployment near the Liberty of Israel's nuclear force. He also did not go into the details of the attack. As you showed, Sam, it's awful hard to look at all the details and conclude the attack was an accident.

The point about not sinking the ship makes little sense to me. Given the direct torpedo hit and list the PT boats probably thought they had sunk her. Second, it would not do to loiter if they thought they were hitting a US ship, since it would be reasonable to assume the US would dispatch air support to protect the ship. On the other hand, if the Israeli's thought it was an Egyptian ship, they would loiter to ensure the kill, since the Egyptian air force was destroyed.

73 posted on 09/10/2003 12:54:43 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Iron Horse)
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To: colorado tanker
Gee, I really hate to disagree with Alan Dershowitz </ sarcasm>

The point about not sinking the ship makes little sense to me. Given the direct torpedo hit and list the PT boats probably thought they had sunk her. Second, it would not do to loiter if they thought they were hitting a US ship, since it would be reasonable to assume the US would dispatch air support to protect the ship. On the other hand, if the Israeli's thought it was an Egyptian ship, they would loiter to ensure the kill, since the Egyptian air force was destroyed.

You bring up up an excellent point about waiting to confirm a kill. If they knew the ship was Egyptian they would have hung around.

It's the question of motive than need to be answered, if that can be answered then everything else becomes clearer. I doubt if we'll ever know.

74 posted on 09/10/2003 1:01:45 PM PDT by SAMWolf (US Marines - Travel Agents to Allah)
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Gee, I really hate to disagree with Alan Dershowitz </ sarcasm>

LOL! The interview was spooky because I agreed with most of it. He brought up points about the history of Palestine and the Pali radicals that are well known on FR but largely hidden by the mainstream press. He has decided to oppose the liberal ivory tower establishment on the issue of the Israeli-Pali conflict. Seems he finally figured out that the Palis really want the Jews dead and the Europeans really are anti-Semitic and don't care whether the Jews live or die. I guess self-interest won out over fashionable liberalism.

75 posted on 09/10/2003 1:42:59 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Iron Horse)
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To: SAMWolf
the best laid plans of mice & men FREQUENTLY fail.

free dixie,sw

76 posted on 09/10/2003 2:09:58 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistence to tyrants is obedience to God. -Thomas Jefferson)
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To: colorado tanker
I still can't stand to look or listen to that man.
77 posted on 09/10/2003 2:16:00 PM PDT by SAMWolf (US Marines - Travel Agents to Allah)
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To: SAMWolf
Yep, he's definitely in the Geraldo category.
78 posted on 09/10/2003 2:17:56 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Iron Horse)
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To: SAMWolf
!!!
79 posted on 09/10/2003 2:43:03 PM PDT by Darksheare ("It's Howdy Doody time kiddies... the Bad Man is here..")
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To: colorado tanker
LOL. He drove me nuts when they had Geraldo embedded with the troops, I'd switch News channels when Fox had him on.
80 posted on 09/10/2003 3:22:53 PM PDT by SAMWolf (US Marines - Travel Agents to Allah)
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