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Kids in same sex marriages need help (Barf Alert)
The Detroit News ^ | 10/27/03 | Deb Price

Posted on 10/27/2003 8:39:18 AM PST by LiberalSlayer99

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:09:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Camille Caracappa, Eva Kadrey and their toddler, Nic, had created an idyllic life.

Eva and Nic would walk Camille to work, a nearby hospital where she was an oncology nurse. Eva and Nic would spend the day exploring Manhattan cafes and playgrounds or would head off for the New Jersey shore. Weekends meant get-togethers with Camille's large, close-knit family, or Camille and Nic would take off for their own special time of ice cream and swing-sets.


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda; prisoners; samesexmarriage
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
No, I'm not taking a chance. I know the man; I trust him.

That's what they all say.
We even have a freeper mom here who did the same thing you're doing. Bad idea. She was "tolerant", but not anymore.
Maybe we'll get lucky, and she'll join the thread.
People thought they could trust their priests, their school teachers, their neighbors, too.

61 posted on 10/27/2003 11:44:41 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: Modernman
The whole bi-curious woman thing is pretty common these days among younger women, I'd say.

I'm not surprised. Having done everything we can do to teach people to suppress the natural reaction to barf at the concept of homosexual behavior, it's no surprise that narcissistic, bored kids would experiment with homosex.

They also experiment with heterosex and drugs and tattoos and piercing strange parts of their body.

But there's no slippery slope. No, SIR! And this isn't the example of what was described at the end of Romans 1. No, SIR! Any similarity between modern western civilization and Romans 1 is purely coincidental. Yes, SIR!

Shalom.

62 posted on 10/27/2003 11:46:27 AM PST by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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To: Modernman
I tend to believe that homosexuality is genetic, rather than learned.

Science doesn't support you, but it's really beside the point.

Scientists believe alcoholism is genetic, or at least the tendency toward it is.

It's still wrong and I wouldn't let an alcoholic adopt kids.

Shalom.

63 posted on 10/27/2003 11:49:38 AM PST by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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To: ArGee
I wonder if the plagues that killed them all off before are the same plagues killing them now. History has a tendancy to repeat itself. "You don't mess with mother nature!"
64 posted on 10/27/2003 11:50:09 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: concerned about politics
That's taking one hell of a chance with your sons life.

Pun intended?

Shalom.

65 posted on 10/27/2003 11:50:27 AM PST by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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To: ArGee
I'm not surprised. Having done everything we can do to teach people to suppress the natural reaction to barf at the concept of homosexual behavior, it's no surprise that narcissistic, bored kids would experiment with homosex.

Makes dating much more fun, though. Especially in a place like DC. You never know what your date might be into.

The interesting thing is that most of these women in no way conider themselves gay or even bi-sexual. At most, they'd call themselves bi-curious. They see it as a fad, something they'll do for a few years, then probably settle down when they get married.

66 posted on 10/27/2003 11:50:41 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: Modernman
Makes dating much more fun, though.

Makes love and marriage nearly impossible, though.

I'm an adult, and I view these issues through the eyes of an adult, not a narcissistic teenager.

Shalom.

67 posted on 10/27/2003 11:53:49 AM PST by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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To: Modernman
They see it as a fad, something they'll do for a few years, then probably settle down when they get married.

Who'd want to marry the leftovers? No wonder so many liberal women are spinsters or divorcies. Yuk!

68 posted on 10/27/2003 11:54:15 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: concerned about politics
Who'd want to marry the leftovers? No wonder so many liberal women are spinsters or divorcies. Yuk!

Would you be surprised if I told you the people I generally hang out with are Republicans? You'd be surprised what Republican staffers do in their free time. I don't think it has anything to do with politics.

69 posted on 10/27/2003 11:58:09 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: ArGee
Makes love and marriage nearly impossible, though.

Not really- I'm engaged to one of those girls. It's never been an impediment.

70 posted on 10/27/2003 11:59:13 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: concerned about politics
You have to judge everyone as an individual. Definitely, there are teachers who shouldn't have been trusted. And my wife and I don't trust the public school district to teach my children nor discipline teachers who betray the trust we're given.

So we send our son and sent our daughter to a private school. Still, we have to trust the teachers there. In 10+ years they've been there they have not betrayed our trust.

I have known my son's godfather for ten years. My wife has known him for at least ten years before that. He has given us no reason to believe that he is someone to betray our trust. In fact, he has expressed great anger towards homosexuals who do abuse children.

My wife and I didn't wake up one morning and decide that our son's godfather would be gay, just to be politically correct. We chose him as a close friend with a long-standing close friendship, in which trust had not been betrayed.
71 posted on 10/27/2003 12:00:09 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: Modernman
Would you be surprised if I told you the people I generally hang out with are Republicans? You'd be surprised what Republican staffers do in their free time. I don't think it has anything to do with politics.

Would you believe I think you're full of crap? (Are you one of those metoro - disco- girly boy men or something?)

72 posted on 10/27/2003 12:01:42 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: ArGee
Psychiatrist "Reassures" Parents About Lesbian Experimentation

A provocative article appeared in the New York Times (Metro Section, June 13, 1997, p. B7-8), entitled, "Elite Schools Face the Gay Issue." It clearly illustrated how moral-philosophical decisions to be made between parent and child can be reduced to issues of "science"--and sometimes also innacurate use of empirical evidence.

The article describes a parent-faculty meeting at The Spence School, a private enclave overlooking Central Park, where several eighth-grade girls had declared themselves "bisexual." The school called in a Harvard-educated psychiatrist, Dr. Justin Richardson--himself a gay man--to reassure the parents that lesbian experimentation is common, and that it was too soon to know if they would be lesbians or heterosexuals.

At the all-girl Brearly School two weeks earlier, Dr. Richardson told a parent group to advise their daughters as young as nine years old that they, too, may have sex with other girls in the future. "It is a good idea," he said, "to mention that people have sex with members of the same sex sometimes, and that when they grow up they may have friends that do that--and that it may be something that they themselves do."

"A small but growing number of students," the Times article reported, "have come out at these schools, or at least say that bisexuality is stylish." Parents are concerned, and Dr. Richardson--"pedigreed, carefully-spoken, determinedly nonthreatening--has become the schools' gay issues consultant of choice" because he is "sane and clear," according to the Spence headmaster.

Gay Issues Give Students a Cause for Rebellion To teenagers, gay rights provide a new civil-rights issue which can be used in rebellion against parents. Like all young people, today's teens enjoy making life uncomfortable for the older generation, while feeling they are taking "the moral high ground."

"They are fascinated by the extent to which it rattles the chains in the adult community," said one school administrator.

Gay teachers have spoken at thousands of public and private schools across the country, according to the Times, and as gay students' clubs spring up in the wake of these talks, some parents wonder if their children are being unduly influenced.

Some parents have asked Dr. Richardson if homosexual experimentation will affect their child's future orientation. He takes a "not to worry" approach, saying, "The answer is no. In fact, if this is a girl who has the genetic predisposition and early experience to grow up to be a heterosexual, then bisexual experimentation will probably only help her clarify that she is more attracted to males than to females."

Psychiatrist Richard C. Friedman of Cornell was not so sure. "Psychosexual development in girls leads to a lot more diverse pathways than in boys," he said. "There's no easy guideline."

The mother of a Brearly seventh grader expressed some reservations after the meeting with Dr. Richardson. "It almost seems like they're presenting homosexuality to the kids as the cool thing to do...Girls' schools...pride themselves on 'Girls can do anything,' so it almost gets to the point of, 'Who needs men?'

Dr. Richardson admitted that students often tell him that "bisexuality is in vogue."


73 posted on 10/27/2003 12:04:42 PM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: Modernman
Not really- I'm engaged to one of those girls. It's never been an impediment.

Lack of self-esteem, or couldn't do any better?

74 posted on 10/27/2003 12:04:47 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: Celtjew Libertarian
We chose him as a close friend with a long-standing close friendship, in which trust had not been betrayed.

Yet.

75 posted on 10/27/2003 12:07:30 PM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: concerned about politics
Most likely -- I would say almost certainly -- never.
76 posted on 10/27/2003 12:10:13 PM PST by Celtjew Libertarian (Shake Hands with the Serpent: Poetry by Charles Lipsig aka Celtjew http://books.lulu.com/lipsig)
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To: pubmom
My next question is, who is Nic's biological father?


77 posted on 10/27/2003 12:13:36 PM PST by Petronski (Living life in a minor key.)
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To: concerned about politics
Would you believe I think you're full of crap? (Are you one of those metoro - disco- girly boy men or something?)

Well, it's the truth. I hang out with a good number of Republican Hill staffers (my college roommate works for the Speaker). I've fairly recently gone through college and law school. So, these are just everyday life observations.

78 posted on 10/27/2003 12:19:21 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: EdReform
Dr. Richardson admitted that students often tell him that "bisexuality is in vogue."

Sounds about right.

79 posted on 10/27/2003 12:21:48 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: concerned about politics
Lack of self-esteem, or couldn't do any better?

My, my, weren't we raised with good manners? It's quite unsporting to critisize someone who isn't here to speak for herself.

I'll take my double Ivy-league educated, Colonel's daughter six-figure making lawyer future wife any day of the week.

Why so afraid of the whole thing?

80 posted on 10/27/2003 12:24:52 PM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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