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Kids in same sex marriages need help (Barf Alert)
The Detroit News ^ | 10/27/03 | Deb Price

Posted on 10/27/2003 8:39:18 AM PST by LiberalSlayer99

Edited on 05/07/2004 7:09:36 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: concerned about politics
It's not good to leave children around homosexuals. There's something evil about them. They're like sexual vampires, always thirsty, but never quenched.

Strange take on things. Describes most of my single, straight male friends.

The type of homosexual who is into bathhouses and orgies is probably not the type of homosexual who has any interest in adopting children.

Keep in mind, lesbian relationships are actually generally more stable over the long-term than straight relationships- lesbians tend to stay together for a long time.

21 posted on 10/27/2003 9:42:21 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: hunter112
--People said the same thing about mixed race couples 30-40 years ago. I'd bet there are people who read FR who still think that. --

Maybe so, but the difference is mixed race couple are able to make their own offspring proving the predjudice wrong - gays still must rely on the opposite sex to help creat life. They need what they reject and they reject what they need.
22 posted on 10/27/2003 9:45:16 AM PST by fml
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To: LiberalSlayer99
Your statement about mixed race couples doesn't hold water. You're comparing apples and oranges. Even with mixed race hetero couples, the equipment still works...naturally.

Here's where I'm coming from on that. When you said, "I'm of the opinion that gay couples shouldn't have kids. I think it's too potentially psychologically damaging to a child," that was the same argument I heard against interracial couples, that their kids would suffer from predjudice from being mixed. It's a societal perception problem, and just as any kid who verbally assaulted another for being of mixed race parentage would have his butt in the principal's office, the same thing should happen if he flings remarks at the children of gay people. I remember the n-word, and the epithet "n----- lover" being hurled around back in the sixties with the same frequency as "gay" is bandied around as an insult. The epithets I heard in the sixties were from the children of people who hated blacks, and the epithets of this era are from the kids who live with parents who refuse to accept gay people as full fellow citizens. We can differ from others in our religious, political and philosophical beliefs, but its good citizenship to teach our kids to allow others to have their own ways.

23 posted on 10/27/2003 9:46:53 AM PST by hunter112
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To: GovernmentShrinker
"Since most states haven't yet managed to keep drug addicts and child abusers from adopting through the state system, it seems premature (to say the least) to fixate on preventing law-abiding, self-supporting gay couples from adopting."

The point of the story is that Camille never adopted the kid. That's why there's a problem now.

Even if 'gay marriage' were made legal, the 'spouse' of the biological parent would have to adopt the child. The situation would be just like in blended families. If you don't adopt your 'step kids,' they don't get your benefits should you die without making some other special arrangement.

24 posted on 10/27/2003 9:47:39 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: Modernman
"lesbians tend to stay together for a long time."

I would be willing to bet this has an awful lot to do with lack of appeal to the opposite sex in 99% of the cases.

25 posted on 10/27/2003 9:49:46 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: concerned about politics
Have you ever look straight into the eyes of an innocent child?

Yes, and I've looked into the eyes of some mischevious ones, too. Even a few who had downright evil in their demeanor. Childhood does not equal pure unmitigated innocence in 100% of the cases. In any case, so what?

Have you ever looked into the eyes of a homosexual?

Yes, I have. Something tells me that you don't know any gay people, and I'm not surprised. Most homosexual people probably can spot you coming around the corner, and they wouldn't let you know who they are.

There's something evil about them. They're like sexual vampires, always thirsty, but never quenched.

I think you're talking about child molesters here. Yes, I have looked into the eyes of one of them, too. He wanted to marry my ex, and be my kids' stepfather, and would have succeeded if I hadn't gone to court to get their custody.

And here's the big surprise, you couldn't see anything different in his eyes, either. My kids felt uneasy about him, and I had to do a court search of his name to find out the truth.

26 posted on 10/27/2003 9:53:30 AM PST by hunter112
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To: LiberalSlayer99
a gap that lets children who happen to have same-sex parents fall through.

Hey, DOOFUS, this child didn't "happen to have" same-sex "parents". Two women who cared more about their infantile sexual fantasies than about the human being one wanted to give birth to PLANNED to have a child and stick it into this environment. They weren't thinking about the CHILD, they were thinking about THEMSELVES. All the evidence shows that children develop best with both a male and a female parent, but they didn't care about that. They couldn't be married but they didn't care about that. All they cared about was they wanted to be munching on each other and they wanted a kid.

Now you want me to cry and moan because they couldn't be adult enough to consider anybody but themselves and got the child into a bad situation?

Tell you what. Let the lezzbo put the kid up for adoption into a heterosexual family. That's what would be best for the kid. Oh, but I forgot, SHE NEVER REALLY CARED ABOUT THE CHILD.

It's not the stupidity I mind so much, it's the wanton destruction of everything good.

Shalom.

27 posted on 10/27/2003 9:55:04 AM PST by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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To: Modernman
but if a gay couple meets all of the other criteria, I don't see any real reason to keep them from adopting.

I think that, since they are demonstrably mentally ill, they don't meet all the criteria.

Shalom.

28 posted on 10/27/2003 9:56:45 AM PST by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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To: hunter112
People said the same thing about mixed race couples 30-40 years ago.

Try using that gray matter between your ears when discussing current events.

If you find a corpse, you will be able to tell whether it was black or white. You will not be able to tell whether it was gay or straight.

Color is an attribute. "Orientation" is a behavior.

Shalom.

29 posted on 10/27/2003 9:59:05 AM PST by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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To: ArGee
I think that, since they are demonstrably mentally ill, they don't meet all the criteria.

Not by current, generally-accepted standards used by psychiatrists and psycholgists.

30 posted on 10/27/2003 10:04:34 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: concerned about politics
Indeed! However, you know what will happen now -- the liberal press will end up trumpeting that particular "study" as conclusive evidence that homosexual relationships are more stable, so they need to be able to "marry" and adopt kids, and so on...
31 posted on 10/27/2003 10:04:51 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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To: LiberalSlayer99
Eva was "totally offended and hurt" by the ruling.

Well that's all I need to know. I can not imagine a better reason to change a law than someone was "totally offended and hurt". </ sarcasm>

32 posted on 10/27/2003 10:06:34 AM PST by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: MEGoody
I would be willing to bet this has an awful lot to do with lack of appeal to the opposite sex in 99% of the cases.

Oh, I've known some very attractive lesbian and bi-sexual women (but hell, seems like these days, every woman I know is at least a little bi-curious). Anyway, I think it has to do with the fact that women are big into commitment. Put two women together, that's a lot of commitment and talking about feelings.

33 posted on 10/27/2003 10:07:31 AM PST by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: Modernman
Not by current, generally-accepted standards used by psychiatrists and psycholgists.

Yes, I know. In the DSM the "professionals" decided that if you're OK with your psychosis, it's not really an illness.

Wonder if they say the same thing about so-called "homophobia."

Political stuff 'n' nonsense. They're clearly mentally ill. You don't need a shrink to tell you that, just your two eyes.

They may have you fooled, but not me. The emporer is naked.

Shalom.

34 posted on 10/27/2003 10:07:42 AM PST by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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To: LiberalSlayer99
Camille's mother (who, of course, is Nic's grandmother) encouraged Eva to apply for Social Security survivor benefits for Nic, a step Eva was unfamiliar with because she is a Danish citizen.

If your daughter has a baby, you're a grandparent. If your son fathers a baby, you're a grandparent. Camille's mother meets neither criterion. Ergo, Camille's mother is not a grandmother - Nic's or anyone else's.
35 posted on 10/27/2003 10:08:09 AM PST by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte
NICE TAGLINE!!!!!

Shalom.

36 posted on 10/27/2003 10:10:43 AM PST by ArGee (Hey, how did I get in this handcart? And why is it so hot?)
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To: hunter112
We can differ from others in our religious, political and philosophical beliefs, but its good citizenship to teach our kids to allow others to have their own ways.

Yeh, like watching them grow up to be ELF, ALF, NAMBLA, Communist/socialist taking our arms, religion, and joining muslim terrorist groups. We all need to show more diversity and tolerance, and let them all be indoctrinated. It's our civil duty -- NOT!

37 posted on 10/27/2003 10:14:33 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: Modernman
Not by current, generally-accepted standards used by psychiatrists and psycholgists.

Sure. Quote the leftist "professionals" who call Republicans Nazis, and socialist/commies the saints, and the Religious the illusioned! Good one. Hell, most of them are probably homosexuals themselves!
There was a recient article about homosexuals and the effect of light "proving" they were born gay. Ever see the girly boy "professional" who came up with that one?

38 posted on 10/27/2003 10:22:05 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: Modernman
Oh, I've known some very attractive lesbian and bi-sexual women (but hell, seems like these days, every woman I know is at least a little bi-curious). Anyway, I think it has to do with the fact that women are big into commitment. Put two women together, that's a lot of commitment and talking about feelings.

Are you from Sodom California?

39 posted on 10/27/2003 10:23:41 AM PST by concerned about politics ( Maybe, could be, I think., what if, is it true?, I heard..............................)
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To: LiberalSlayer99; EdReform; *Homosexual Agenda; scripter; GrandMoM; backhoe; pram; Yehuda; ...
Bump and ping. I'll be back later.

40 posted on 10/27/2003 10:24:13 AM PST by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle)
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