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Amnesty International Outraged at Execution of a 16 Year Old Girl
Amnesty International ^ | August 23, 2004 | Amnesty International

Posted on 08/23/2004 8:01:10 PM PDT by faludeh_shirazi

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To: taxesareforever
I am happy to see we agree that (All countries have interlocking strengths and weaknesses, and all have flaws). That was my point.

I'm glad we can agree! I also think that -- balancing our strenghts and weaknesses and looking at other countries in the world -- this country is clearly and by far the best. Do we have agreement on that point also?

(You seem very bothered by our crime rate in this country. I'm sorry if you've been on the receiving end of a bad crime, or if you know someone who has. It's my understanding that our rates of most crimes are the same or lower than most the rest of the world. Is that your impression also? My prescription for lower crime is for more of the same things that made this country great in the first place, like more limited government and more individual freedom -- not more draconian laws and a bigger government. I'd support more concealed carry rights, for example, so people can take better care of themselves, before I'd argue for bigger and harsher government punishments.)

41 posted on 08/24/2004 12:37:37 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: faludeh_shirazi

Maybe AI can get a few friends from the UN and Doctors without Borders to invade Iran and put a stop to the oppression instead of threatening people with press releases and a few bumper stickers.


42 posted on 08/24/2004 12:41:38 PM PDT by rabidralph (Arm Tibet!)
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To: piasa
Yep, and the "no blood for oil" crowd is silent on that too. But how can we expect U.N. groupies to reconcile such?


43 posted on 08/24/2004 1:55:56 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered.©)
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To: JoJo Gunn
"How come there's never been a peep from the Left about what went on at Abu Ghraib while the Butcher of Baghdad was in power?"

They didn't care then and they don't care now. They're jealous of Bush and want their throne back. So, all they'll do is whine until they get it back.

44 posted on 08/24/2004 2:02:32 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: 68skylark

I'm glad we can agree! I also think that -- balancing our strenghts and weaknesses and looking at other countries in the world -- this country is clearly and by far the best. Do we have agreement on that point also?

We agree on this point.

My prescription for lower crime is for more of the same things that made this country great in the first place, like more limited government and more individual freedom

Now on this point we do not agree. One of the big problems this country is facing is the judicial system which is giving license to be anything for anybody in the name of individual freedom. What may be good for you may not be good for the nation as a whole but our activist judges don't care about the nation as a whole. And this I see as a major problem which will not soon turn around, if it ever does.


45 posted on 08/24/2004 2:13:35 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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To: taxesareforever

Your comments are well-stated -- thought provoking.

Since we're trying to find some common ground here, could I suggest that the enemy we both dislike is moral relativism -- that wishy-washy attitude that nothing is really right or really wrong?

I hate that attitude. I hate when it's used to excuse crime here at home, or terrorism or tyranny abroad. I don't believe we need more freedom for criminals to excuse their crimes -- I think we need more freedom for good people (who know the difference between right and wrong) to protect themselves against the bad guys.


46 posted on 08/24/2004 4:02:18 PM PDT by 68skylark
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Since we're trying to find some common ground here, could I suggest that the enemy we both dislike is moral relativism -- that wishy-washy attitude that nothing is really right or really wrong?

That, we can certainly agree on.


47 posted on 08/24/2004 7:47:02 PM PDT by taxesareforever
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