Posted on 08/23/2004 8:01:10 PM PDT by faludeh_shirazi
Thanks for more info on this story.
Probably what it really is is the Mullahs can get away with killing or abusing women and girls more easily than they can get away with doing it too frequently to young men, who might organize an uprising and fight back. So the Mullahs push as far as they are able, a few men, many more women. I suppose the Mullahs must create as much fear as possible to maintain control, but cannot apply too much directly to young men- so they compensate by going after the most defenseless individuals, so as to control not just the weak, but also the fathers and brothers who love their families and want no harm to come to the women and children in their care. A form of blackmail- "rise up and we'll go after the women and kids."
An execution like this serves as a reminder of what can happen to a family.
Something like Afghanistan- the Taliban massacre 3,000 Afghans they didn't like, but what makes the news and outrages the world? Not the massacre. The outrage at the time was only about the Taliban's destruction of the Buddha statues. The statues was widely noted as being unique and 'irreplaceable,' as if individual human beings are not.
I don't condone the execution but I have to say I must give credit to this country for not falling for the defense that is so often used in the U.S. (mental incompetence or insanity). This country could learn from them.
Piasa - they hang men all the time - ON A WEEKLY basis, but they call them drug dealers or hooligans when they are really freedom fighters..
another young woman of Islam is sacrificed to their deity, allah. There doesn't seem to be much difference between Islam and the Aztecs.
The government's position deteriorated further in August 1978, when more than 400 people died in a fire at the Rex Cinema in Abadan. Although evidence available after the Revolution suggested that the fire was deliberately started by religiously inclined students, the opposition carefully cultivated a widespread conviction that the fire was the work of SAVAK agents.Following the Rex Cinema fire, the shah removed Amuzegar and named Jafar Sharif-Emami prime minister. Sharif-Emami, a former minister and prime minister and a trusted royalist, had for many years served as president of the Senate. The new prime minister adopted a policy of conciliation. He eased press controls and permitted more open debate in the Majlis. He released a number of imprisoned clerics, revoked the imperial calendar, closed gambling casinos, and obtained from the shah the dismissal from court and public office of members of the Bahai religion, a sect to which the clerics strongly objected.
These measures, however, did not quell public protests. On September 4, more than 100,000 took part in the public prayers to mark the end of Ramazan, the Muslim fasting month. The ceremony became an occasion for antigovernment demonstrations that continued for the next two days, growing larger and more radical in composition and in the slogans of the participants. The government declared martial law in Tehran and eleven other cities on the night of September 7-8, 1978.
The next day, troops fired into a crowd of demonstrators at Tehran's Jaleh Square. A large number of protesters, certainly many more than the official figure of eighty-seven, were killed. The Jaleh Square shooting came to be known as "Black Friday." It considerably radicalized the opposition movement and made compromise with the regime, even by the moderates, less likely.
In October the Iraqi authorities, unable to persuade Khomeini to refrain from further political activity, expelled him from the country.
Khomeini went to France and established his headquarters at Neauphle-le-Château, outside Paris. Khomeini's arrival in France provided new impetus to the revolutionary movement. It gave Khomeini and his movement exposure in the world press and media. It made possible easy telephone communication with lieutenants in Tehran and other Iranian cities, thus permitting better coordination of the opposition movement. It allowed Iranian political and religious leaders, who were cut off from Khomeini while he was in Iraq, to visit him for direct consultations.
One of these visitors was National Front leader Karim Sanjabi.
After a meeting with Khomeini early in November 1978, Sanjabi issued a three-point statement that for the first time committed the National Front to the Khomeini demand for the deposition of the shah and the establishment of a government that would be "democratic and Islamic."
I'm a bit ambivalent about AI also, but if all they condemned were the executions of Bundy and McVeigh, and never brought to light stuff like this in Iran, hell, they'd be the ACLU.
Calling political enemies mere criminals is a tactic which seems to work all too well on the western press, and it's been used by just about every brutal regime to rob the victim of his individuality as well as his life without so much as causing a ripple in the news. The reporters assume criminals are guilty if listed as such by their government, without much concern about how that determination was made. If the victims aren't celebrities in some way, they die anonymously and only their immediate families know what they were really like in life.
In Iran, do the 'authorities' publish the names of those they murder/execute nationally or just locally? Are there a lot of missing persons, people who are suspected to have been killed or or arrested but who the regime does not acknowledge? Are names available, as in your article here, for more of these people, their occupations, etc?
Details about their lives from their families and friends, along with any information on them that could be used to more personalize what is happening to individuals in Iran and to any family members they have in the west who are affected, can go a long way towards getting the news out by helping non-Iranians to see these as real people and not mere statistics. It should be political suicide for any politician to take funding from companies which seek to deal with the regime.
Maybe they were on the receiving end of some oil vouchers?
I know you don't mean to sound this way, but your comments come off in very bad taste -- we're talking about the murder of a 16-year old girl. There's nothing positive that this country needs to "learn" from Iran.
I am sorry if you think that this country is above all the others in respect to morality and right and wrong. It certainly doesn't take a genius to spot the flaws in our society. Just look at our prisons and crime rate. We need to learn from someone because we certainly aren't doing the job.
All countries have interlocking strengths and weaknesses, and all have flaws. But on balance, our flaws are a lot smaller than the rest of the world.
I DO "think this country is above all other in respect to right and wrong." I really don't follow your example of crime rates. Totalitarian societies are known for extremely low rates of street crime (though they have very high rates of "crime" by government officials against the people). Do you think we should go that direction? I don't. Do you think we should hang teenagers for being mouthy? I don't -- it's un-American.
All countries have interlocking strengths and weaknesses, and all have flaws. But on balance, our flaws are a lot smaller than the rest of the world.
I am happy to see we agree that (All countries have interlocking strengths and weaknesses, and all have flaws). That was my point.
My example of crime rates is that this country does not prevent crime but is a playground for those who commit them. Would stricter laws prevent crime? Possibly.
She got raped. You know how it is in Islamic Republics - if a woman gets raped, she gets executed for adultry.
In this case, the judge was upset 'cause she sassed him. Told him that he should go after her rapists rather than her. He hanged her himself.
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