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Kerry critics draw crowd, ire during speech in S.F. (Kerry Vet Leader Likens O'Neill to Goebbels)
Oakland Tribune ^ | 9/11/04 | Josh Richman

Posted on 09/11/2004 10:53:46 AM PDT by USMCVIETVET

Call your local newspapers, jewish and veterans organizations, and request they demand a public apology from Sanders and from the Kerry campaign. See last 2 paragraphs of article.

Oakland Tribune

Kerry critics draw crowd, ire during speech in S.F. By Josh Richman STAFF WRITER

Saturday, September 11, 2004 - SAN FRANCISCO -- The summer heat grew milder but the rhetoric index was sky-high Friday as two leading critics of Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry's military service repeated their attacks while protesters picketed their presence.

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth co-founder John O'Neill, author of "Unfit for Command," again aired his claims that Kerry not only conflated his own record in Vietnam for political gain but also smeared other veterans' reputations while speaking out against the war after his return.

"It's simply a fraud on the American people, much of it," he told an audience at the Commonwealth Club of California's Market Street offices.

Also speaking Friday was retired U.S. Air Force Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson, a senior aide to President Clinton who since has authored two books taking Clinton and other Democrats to task for what he deems their failings in military wisdom and national security. Antiwar liberals "hijacked" the Democratic party decades ago, he claimed, and Kerry is "ill-equipped to lead our young troops in combat."

Swift Boat Veterans for Truth filed a disclosure report Friday showing it had raised $1.9 million since April 23. O'Neill said Friday the section 527 advocacy group has received thousands of donations averaging $65 to $70, but the report shows $1.19 million was raised from a dozen donors, of whom eight -- including O'Neill himself -- are wealthy Texans.

O'Neill focused Friday on three specific incidents during what he called Kerry's "short and controversial" four-month combat stint. First, he said Kerry's account of a secret mission inside Cambodia on Christmas 1968 was "a total and complete fabrication ... a malicious lie."

Second, O'Neill said a report Kerry filed on a January 1969 incident claims enemy troops were involved, while Kerry's book claims he felt guilt for having accidentally slain civilians. And third, he claimed, Kerry's boat not only wasn't under fire when rescuing an overboard crew member in March 1969 but actually fled the scene during a short firefight.

O'Neill himself never saw Kerry in Vietnam; he took command of the same swift boat Kerry had led several weeks after Kerry left. Taking questions and mild, sporadic heckling from the audience, he said most officers and enlisted men in Kerry's unit -- although not aboard the same boat -- now feel Kerry is unfit to be commander-in-chief.

Outside, a few dozen protesters bore signs declaring "Unfit for Consumption -- Liar go home!" and "Swift Boat Lies for Bush" as the Kerry campaign recruited volunteers and registered voters.

Former Deputy Assistant Navy Secretary Wade Sanders of San Diego, who commanded a swift boat alongside Kerry's and who now leads California Veterans for Kerry, called O'Neill's claims "a pack of lies." "I would go into combat with John Kerry any time, any place -- I wouldn't follow George Bush into an ice cream parlor."

O'Neill "needs to be confronted with the lies he's fomenting," Sanders said. He likened O'Neill and Karl Rove to Nazi propaganda master Joseph Goebbels, saying they "studied at that man's knee."

Contact Josh Richman at jrichman@angnewspapers.com .

Response to this article by Bruce Kesler:

As a proudly Jewish veteran of Vietnam, I take strong exception (and that's more polite than it deserves) at Kerry's California Veterans for Kerry leader, Wade Sanders, using language that likens John O'Neill to Joseph Goebbels. This is the same as when John Kerry said "The only feeling you could have was that you were like the Germans" in being in Vietnam [Dick Cavett show, 1971]. It is because of Kerry's words and actions then and now, and those like Sanders whom Kerry enlists in leading his campaign, that Vietnam veterans are so outraged, as are so many other citizens. Their brand of gutter smear politics reaches its ultimate low with likening Vietnam veterans to Nazis.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: goebbels; kerry; oneill; sanders; vietnam; wadesanders
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To: USMCVIETVET
What do they mean:

"Swift Boat Veterans for Truth co-founder John O'Neill, author of "Unfit for Command," again aired his claims that Kerry not only conflated his own record in Vietnam for political gain but also smeared other veterans' reputations while speaking out against the war after his return.

Kerry is on tape with his accusations against those fighting in Vietnam!

41 posted on 09/11/2004 11:48:56 AM PDT by FairOpinion (FIGHT TERRORISM! VOTE BUSH/CHENEY 2004.)
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To: cwb

Exactly. The Dems and Kerry people repeatedly insult the intelligence and decency of all Americans, as well as of Jews, when they use such despicable language, and MUST be called publicly to account.


42 posted on 09/11/2004 11:49:46 AM PDT by USMCVIETVET (Kerry No Special Friend to Jews or Israel)
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To: USMCVIETVET

Just remember, the NAZIs were SOCIALISTS......


43 posted on 09/11/2004 11:50:14 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: USMCVIETVET
Swift Boat Veterans for Truth filed a disclosure report Friday showing it had raised $1.9 million since April 23. O'Neill said Friday the section 527 advocacy group has received thousands of donations averaging $65 to $70, but the report shows $1.19 million was raised from a dozen donors, of whom eight -- including O'Neill himself -- are wealthy Texans.

SO WHAT?

I am sick of the media/libs and their insanity.

They shun truth as a vampire shuns the light and project all of their vile tactics onto good and decent people.

They will no longer be allowed to get away with it and will be confronted consistantly and repeatedly everytime they spew their foul lies. We are not going to back down or be intimidated from speaking out. The days of their propaganda reigning supreme are over.

44 posted on 09/11/2004 11:52:05 AM PDT by cyncooper (We're mad as Zell and we're not going to take it anymore!)
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To: Grampa Dave; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Happy2BMe; Boazo; OXENinFLA; Lady Jag; ...






Proud To Be Part Of The Vast Right Wing Conspiracy




45 posted on 09/11/2004 11:52:18 AM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: cyncooper

BTTT


46 posted on 09/11/2004 11:59:56 AM PDT by USMCVIETVET (Kerry No Special Friend to Jews or Israel)
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To: USMCVIETVET
O'Neill "needs to be confronted with the lies he's fomenting," Sanders said. He likened O'Neill and Karl Rove to Nazi propaganda master Joseph Goebbels, saying they "studied at that man's knee."

Boy, the communists sure like to call other people Nazis. Guess it goes way back.

47 posted on 09/11/2004 12:15:17 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Not Fonda Kerry in '04 // Vets Against Kerry)
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To: USMCVIETVET
Incredible invectives these Demrats use - while calling those who have simply exercised their rights. 'Nazis of the 3rd Reich kind' - so to apeak; and who should know better than those who call them up so regualarly . .

They certainly know all the names; they surely copy their tactics; they definitely share like-minded sympathies with our more hated of enemies.

Or as we said as children when called the worst names. . .'I know you are; but what am I?"

48 posted on 09/11/2004 12:29:59 PM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: cyncooper

I'm with ya. I knew that when this ONE group of anti-Kerry (not even really, pro Bush) opponents came out, the media would suddenly have a new appreciation for both 527s and the money they raised. Not until the SBVT came on the scene did the media care about the millions of dollars going into Bush-bashing groups...or where that money came from and who was funding them.

Not a word about Soros (or who he was), Lewis or the numerous DNC operatives who are directly tied to these groups...yet they dare to attack Ginsberg for giving legal advice on campaign finance law, as several dems have done for MoveOn, ACT, etc. As we here about the evil Texas millionaires behind Bush, the media ignores the Tide Foundation and their charities who may be funneling money to liberal 527s to defeat Bush. I'm sick of this and it's past time the media be confronted for their duplicitous deception.


49 posted on 09/11/2004 1:06:35 PM PDT by cwb (John Kerry: Still attacking Vietnam Vets after 35 years.)
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To: Bombardier

"The idea that a traitor would claim the title borne by honorable military men such as William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, Benjamin Harrison, James A. Garfield, R.B. Hayes, William McKinley, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, J.F. Kennedy and Gerald Ford is offensive to me....and deeply so."


What is offensive to me is the (distant) posibility of having a super carrier in the future being name the John F. Kerry and the insult of the crewmen having to serve under that name.

Simply unbelievable....


50 posted on 09/11/2004 1:10:03 PM PDT by RedMonqey (Those that bite the hand that feeds them will lick the boots that kick them)
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To: Bombardier
Your #23

AMEN

51 posted on 09/11/2004 1:16:31 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: Interesting Times; USMCVIETVET; Happy2BMe; devolve; PhilDragoo
Good grief!

Former Deputy Assistant Navy Secretary Wade Sanders of San Diego, who commanded a swift boat alongside Kerry's and who now leads California Veterans for Kerry, called O'Neill's claims "a pack of lies." "I would go into combat with John Kerry any time, any place -- I wouldn't follow George Bush into an ice cream parlor."

O'Neill "needs to be confronted with the lies he's fomenting," Sanders said. He likened O'Neill and Karl Rove to Nazi propaganda master Joseph Goebbels, saying they "studied at that man's knee."


52 posted on 09/11/2004 2:18:40 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Happy2BMe; devolve; PhilDragoo


53 posted on 09/11/2004 2:19:15 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Smartass
The real Goebbels on post #53 .....


54 posted on 09/11/2004 2:26:50 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Interesting Times
I only saw about 10 or 12 TerrorSups out sided.

Caution shaky Movie short ahead...

Purple Hearts

Hay Scott, yer buddy says Howdy:

:>)

55 posted on 09/11/2004 2:28:54 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: MeekOneGOP
Funny thing about Sanders....I just called him Goebells a couple of weeks ago when he kept emailing me some Dumbcrat talking points. Interestingly enough he quit emailing me after that. He is a real shill for the dummies...he has his head so far up Kerry's butt, hoping for a big job should Kerry be elected, that a quick term would break his neck. Also I don't think he was in RVN when lurch was there...
56 posted on 09/11/2004 2:35:00 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver (www.RealHeroesVoices.com....see the real John Kerry)
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To: Grampa Dave

Just caught Chris Matthews , Scarborough on MSNBC . Chris had the producer of Stolen Honor on, quizzed him like a prosecuter as to whether Kerry's name was ever used as the Vets were totured, they said yes, then produced other POW Vets who said they never heard Kerry's name mentioned in their Prison Camps.... sickening.... the left is in full attack mode!


57 posted on 09/11/2004 2:41:48 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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To: Interesting Times
the DIMocRATS are TOAST for 04. stick a fork in hanoi-john;he's DONE!

free dixie,sw

58 posted on 09/11/2004 3:14:06 PM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

One good thing about Chrissy Matthews and his lust for Kerry, we seldom hear any misguided conservatives defending the Girly it, Matthews any more.


59 posted on 09/11/2004 3:54:24 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Kerry = The Wrong Candidate in the Wrong Country at the Wrong Time (post 9/11)!)
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To: Grampa Dave

He really has my contempt now.... wonder if he will have his favorite guest McCain on anymore....?


60 posted on 09/11/2004 4:06:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (A Proud member of Free Republic ~~The New Face of the Fourth Estate since 1996.)
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