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CUT THEM DOWN: The Barrett XM-109 Sniper Rifle
Military.com ^ | Sept 2004 | Military.com

Posted on 09/23/2004 2:19:56 PM PDT by archy

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To: sonofatpatcher2
I prefer almost one hundred year old technology M1911A1, but yours does have the right caliber.
41 posted on 09/23/2004 2:46:23 PM PDT by dts32041 (bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay)
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To: archy

25mm -- 1 inch, basically. Wow, that would make a dent in your chest. But is it a good idea to push this in view of our soldiers' use of body armor?


42 posted on 09/23/2004 2:47:00 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: muir_redwoods

high explosive dual purpose.


43 posted on 09/23/2004 2:47:54 PM PDT by wordsofearnest (God Bless Zell Miller.)
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To: All
Accurate out to 2,500 meters

Our esteemed Governor here in Illinois was screaming about .50 bmg's back before he ran for governor. It seems he feels that these would be terrible in the hands of strret gangs and criminals (which they would). But what person in todays city, 1-needs a gun that can shoot 2500 yds. And 2- is going to spend $8000 for a rifle and scope. They can go out and get a .308 or 30-06 for a few hundred. Besides, .50 bmg rounds cost $4.00 each. Versus what? $.25 each?. Besides trying to shoot something 2500 yards away in the city is impractical. Things get in the way. Like BUILDINGS

44 posted on 09/23/2004 2:50:15 PM PDT by mountn man
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To: archy; All

This is the time to POUR IT ON, for America to take quantum leaps in military technology while the rest of the world sleeps. There's only one other country capable of generating innovations like this and it -- Israel -- is on our side.


45 posted on 09/23/2004 2:55:30 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: expatpat

Rifle rounds can get by some body armor. An AK can easily pierce a cop's standard BP vest. As far as plucking out soldiers, the arabs wouldn't have the cash.


46 posted on 09/23/2004 3:03:33 PM PDT by Bogey78O (John Kerry: Better than Ted Kennedy!)
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To: aculeus
There's only one other country capable of generating innovations like this and it -- Israel -- is on our side.

Capable and motivated.


47 posted on 09/23/2004 3:16:14 PM PDT by glock rocks ("Bush is playing chess, and Kerry is playing checkers." - Dick Morris)
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To: Bogey78O

Will the long 7.62 Soviet (7.62x54) go through class 3 armor?


48 posted on 09/23/2004 3:16:51 PM PDT by FierceKulak
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To: mountn man

LOL! Like some skinny little thug is going to lug around a 33lb 4 foot long "not very inconspicuous" piece of hardware like that. It would be handy on my farm though. great for that "long shot" when a moose goes trotting through the back section.


49 posted on 09/23/2004 3:28:12 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Hank All-American

Assuming one is on the giving end of this weapon, and not the receiving end, how much will this set me back?

In US dollars, I mean...


50 posted on 09/23/2004 3:41:52 PM PDT by sargon (How could anyone vote for the socialist, weak-on-defense fraud named John Kerry?)
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To: Nathan Zachary
I told my buddy in Montana he needed one for hunting out there. I figured that the animals would just surrender if they saw one of them. But then I remembered, those is Montana animals, not French animals. He'd still have to shoot at them, but I figured if he shot anywhere near the animal, it would probably scare it to death.

Close only counts with horseshoes, hand grenades, and 50 caliber bmg.

51 posted on 09/23/2004 3:54:17 PM PDT by mountn man
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To: archy; Squantos; Travis

In case you missed it....I'd like to pass a comment on to you from a relative who served a tour as a shooter in Afghanistan, near the Pakistan border.

Even for the shorter shots -- they would often use their .50 cal rather than their 7.62mm, even when the range or target didn't justify the larger round..

When I asked, "Why"?
He responded that, "It left a hell of a mess for the mark's friends to face and clean up, it also had a chilling and calming effect on the assholes that witnessed the event"..

You just gotta love their rationale..

There was also a interesting scenario, where they were using the .50 cal to "kill" Toyota pickup trucks on narrow mountain roads -- and wacking the marks who were now "un-mounted"....one at a time.

Oh, to be young again!

Semper Fi


52 posted on 09/23/2004 4:03:58 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

"But if ya kills 'em, they won't learn nothin'"


53 posted on 09/23/2004 4:42:41 PM PDT by Hank All-American (Free Men, Free Minds, Free Markets baby!)
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To: Bogey78O

The have plenty of cash.


54 posted on 09/23/2004 4:53:09 PM PDT by expatpat
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To: Hank All-American

The kids out there looking through the scopes on these pieces, are NOT Jesuits.

They aren't there to "win the hearts and minds" of the lunatics -- they are there to kill the bastards that need killin...

The ONLY lesson they're teaching, is that you can get yourself killed going up against the coalition...

Semper Fi


55 posted on 09/23/2004 6:09:11 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek...But I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: river rat

I was semi-quoting Jim Carrey as the Riddler. It was a joke.


56 posted on 09/23/2004 6:12:46 PM PDT by Hank All-American (Free Men, Free Minds, Free Markets baby!)
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To: archy

Already posted.........I thought you were dead ?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1212646/posts


57 posted on 09/23/2004 8:55:00 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: archy
Glad to see you back. I was thinking that you had taken the job we discussed a while back and hadn't asked me along! Not to say that I would have said yes!

The Barrett .50 recoil is really enough for me. Though the capabilities of the XM-109 are worth the learning, the getting used to it curve! Always liked a good rifle.
58 posted on 09/24/2004 1:48:21 AM PDT by Iris7 ("Man has always sacrificed truth to his vanity, comfort and advantage. He lives... by make-believe.")
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To: AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; xrp; freedomlover; ...
Nice varmint rifle. Two-legged varmints, that is.

And the Lahti is nice, but I've wanted a Solothurn S18-1000 every since I read John Ross' Unintended Consequences.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

59 posted on 09/24/2004 5:40:22 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: archy

OH BOY, and Christmas is just around the corner.


60 posted on 09/24/2004 5:42:45 AM PDT by New Perspective (Proud father of a 8 month old son with Down Syndrome)
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