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To: dzzrtrock

The debate about homosexual marriage and civil unions ultimatly boils down to the "born debate".

That is what all this become a referendum on.

In the final analysis, "born homosexual" is about as valid as "born to paaaaaarty".


2 posted on 02/13/2005 7:15:54 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: longtermmemmory

-----The debate about homosexual marriage and civil unions ultimatly boils down to the "born debate".
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I wish I could agree with you but the Supreme Court ruled in the case of Lawrence vs Texas without determining whether someone is "born that way". I guess they just assumed it.

And the other day, while listening to a debate on this subject on Hugh Hewitt's show, I heard the fag lawyer say "there have been gays for thousands of years" and yet the conservative failed to point out..."There have been rapists, thieves, pedophiles, and all sorts of sickos for thousands of years... your point?" but he didn't.

We are losing this one.


6 posted on 02/13/2005 7:19:22 PM PST by Paloma_55
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To: longtermmemmory

if we have gay rights can we have white rights, black rights, heterosexual rights,you get the picture? The US constitution only guarantees rights to individuals, not groups of individuals especially homosexuals. Most states have anti-sodomy laws still in the books but not so much in practice. American society still rejects the presence of homosexual "rights" like gay marriage and stuff of that nature. GWB won by 2 million votes and one of his major points was a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. So society still is more conservative than people in San Francisco like to think (pun intended, hey maybe even NJ):). Would anyone like to hear my arguement for why I should have heterosexual rights? I did not think so.


10 posted on 02/13/2005 7:31:41 PM PST by erik22lax
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To: longtermmemmory

The debate about homosexual marriage and civil unions ultimatly boils down to the "born debate".
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I was listening to 'Progressive' (ultra lib) radio, and they were saying several times how people 'choose' to be gay, etc. They were making other points, but kept referring to people choosing this lifestyle, while not realizing that they were contracicting thier own supposed arguement about 'being born' gay, as justification. They did not even catch the contradiction.


11 posted on 02/13/2005 7:40:59 PM PST by Gal.5:1 (note to self: speak the truth in love)
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To: longtermmemmory

Let me get this straight(pun intended, i'm very proud of myself here)

There is no such thing as homosexuality, only LATENT-HETEROSEXUALITY?

That actually makes sense to me. Especially if you add the caveat that some very rare individuals may never actually develope full blown heterosexuality.


23 posted on 02/13/2005 8:03:35 PM PST by mamelukesabre
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To: longtermmemmory
In the final analysis, "born homosexual" is about as valid as "born to paaaaaarty".

If you born a homosexual, can argue you are born a democrat?

54 posted on 02/13/2005 10:36:25 PM PST by Wil H
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To: longtermmemmory

BTTT


70 posted on 02/14/2005 3:52:21 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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