[dervish]

"They blew up hotels, civilians were killed, it was a terrorist war."

"Hotels?" Plural? One Hotel, The King David which happened to be MILITARY HEADQUARTERS for the British forces. It is you who are having trouble with historical facts and who are "lying" and or ignorant of such salient details. Further three separate advance warnings were given prior to the bombing but ignored by the British who were in denial about the threat from a bunch of Jews.

"You appear rhetorically to buy into legalistic theories you don't not actually believe and that have no operative force in the real world. You also avoid, distort, or deny obvious historical facts for reasons apparently connected to apologetics about them. You impute inferences about rights of self preservation etc where none have been so much as hinted. To me, all are symptoms of the same underlying problem. A reluctance to live in the real world, taking facts as they are. "

Uh, I'm not the subject here and spare me the psychobabble. Talk history and facts. Give references, but leave out the ad hominem signs that you have lost the debate.

[JasonC]

They blew up train lines, bridges, railway stations, they demolished government buildings with explosives, they killed security guards, they assassinate a minister, they fought each other, with kidnappings and with torture, they shot at Arab buses, they shot at army depots and blew up military aircraft on the ground, they attacked police stations and banks, shot at vehicles on the roads with machineguns and with mortars, planted mines, took hostages, blew up British police headquarters, blew up the British intel office, blew up an officers club, and blew up the King David hotel.

They were terrorists. In their practices they were more restrained than AQ or Hamas, on a par with the IRA and not around as long. But terrorists they were. It doesn't matter how much lipstick you put on the pig.