Gun shows caught amid heated crossfire

The Kansas City Star ^ | Sun, Mar. 26, 2006 | JUDY L. THOMAS

[labette]

No argument from me on that point, JudgemAll.

Mao supposedly once said, "Political power comes from the barrel of a gun. That gun must never slip from the grasp of the Communist Party."

It would seem our opponents understand this.

[osagebowman]

An amusing read from our, as always, amusing Kansas City RED Star. Remember April 15 is National Buy A Gun Day.

[SLB]

This article has the blood flowing this morning. I think I will go out this afternoon and give myself a good reason to clean a gun or three. Maybe dig the trap out and kill a few clays.

[Oztrich Boy]

A known member of Hezbollah, for example, was convicted in 2001 in a federal court in Michigan for trying to smuggle guns into Lebanon. An undercover agent saw the man buy a weapon at a gun show without a background check.

This is the jewel in the crown of the "US Gun shows supply terrorists" - yet I'm not even sure that it was established that Ali Boumelhem, although not a model citizen, was an actul Hezbollah member.

As for the case, it was a Customs case, the defendent attempted to ship a forty foot freight container of autro parts that was also found to contain

Customs agents discovered, hidden in a car door, (1) twelve boxes of nine millimeter ammunition, (2) three boxes of 7.65 millimeter ammunition, (3) a Remington twelve-gauge shotgun, (4) an upper receiver for an M-16 or AR-15 assault rifle, (5) hand grips for the barrel of an AR-15, (6) flash suppressors, (7) a butt stock assembly for an M-16 or AR-15, (8) and some speed loaders. Custom agents also discovered another twelve-gauge shotgun , along with a two-way radio, in a shopping bag that had been wrapped in a shirt.

This seizure of a couple of shotguns and a few hundred rounds of handgun ammunnition ended the major source of supply of arms to Middle East terrorists.

[theBuckwheat]

The term "assault rifle" is an ideo-political term that was coined by hoplophobic gun-grabbers as a means of seizing the moral high ground and justifying their positions.

I would doubt that in the last 10 years that a single story in the MSM that used the term "assault weapon" used it with the real definition that you cited. It just means a gun that looks like it could do bad things.

Recall the principle that the party who defines the meaning of words in a debate controls the debate itself. Libs have turned this fancy way of telling a lie into an art form.

[Condor51]

***Notice, as I'm sure you did, she also had to throw in a little silencer comment as well, also a legal item.***

Actually no. I was was irate by this ditz I overlooked that whole idiotic book-pamphlet sentence. However as to silencers, where I did see a way 'to make' one was on TV, CSI to be exact. An empty plastic soda/water bottle. That's much better than the old and messy potato silencer.

In any case, why would a 'reporter' take exception to books and/or pamphlets? I guess the 1st Amendment and Freedom Of The Press was meant only for her and her ilk. /s

[JCEccles]

The idea that street thugs get their firearms at gun shows is worse than laughable, it is insulting to the good and law-abiding Americans who do frequent gun shows.

This article reeks.

[Fido969]

The semi-auto version of the AR is NOT an "assault rifle".

If you attempted to assault a well-defended position with that gun, I think it would be most likely suicide.

And don't tell me that the "sole purpose" of that gun is "to kill large numbers of people". Great PR by the gun makers, but that round isn't that powerful, it is designed to wound, rather than kill. It is barely powerful enough to kill an 80 pound deer with, and then, even with a very accurate shot. As our armed forces report time and time again, it is just not a great killing round.

The best use for that gun is as a fairly accurate target shooter, in my humble opinion.

As such, a more accurate term for an AR-15 semi-auto is "Sporting Rifle".

[rellimpank]

--bttt-

[holymoly]

I think you're mixing up "assault rifle" - a very real term, with a very real defintion - with "assault weapon", which, as you state, was dreamed up by anti-gun zealots (to demonize any gun they don't like).

Recall the principle that the party who defines the meaning of words in a debate controls the debate itself. Libs have turned this fancy way of telling a lie into an art form.

Exactly.

IMO That's why the lefts' hypberbole and propaganda must be exposed and corrected. E.G. Any time the leftist-liberal media refers to a semi-automatic rifle, such as the SKS, as an "assault rifle", the error (lie?) should be pointed out, and corrected.

[JudgemAll]

Yep, the usual hypocritical liberal "tithing" against crime: drop your guns off but only you do it first.

[Fido969]

This seizure of a couple of shotguns and a few hundred rounds of handgun ammunnition ended the major source of supply of arms to Middle East terrorists.

Gee, that's barely enough ammo to cover a small wedding celebration.

[basil]

Ping!

[joesnuffy]

Enemies both foreign and domestic greatly desire the patriotic American male to be disarmed and displaced...

[theBuckwheat]

>>I think you're mixing up "assault rifle" - a very real term, with a very real defintion - with "assault weapon"<<

I am well aware of the real, technical, and honest, meanings of these words. I am speaking of the dangers and outright foolishness of falling into a trap the gun-grabbers have laid when we carelessly use their own terms, terms that are hand-crafted to turn the uneducated and unthinking public against the important right to keep and bear arms, if not all at once, then by increments.

[holymoly]

I am well aware of the real, technical, and honest, meanings of these words.

My apologies.

I was responding to this:

The term "assault rifle" is an ideo-political term that was coined by hoplophobic gun-grabbers

With all due respect, that is not the case. "Assault Rifle" comes from the German "Sturmgewehr", which translates to "Storm rifle" or "assault rifle". As I'm sure you know, the Sturmgewehr was a WWII selective fire weapon, chambered for a 7.92x33mm cartridge.

Gun-grabbers didn't have anything to do with it.

Certainly , they've attempted to co-opt the term, and re-define it to mean "Any semi-automatic rifle we don't like."

If you said "assault weapon", rather than "assault rifle", your statement would have been dead-on.

I am speaking of the dangers and outright foolishness of falling into a trap the gun-grabbers have laid when we carelessly use their own terms

I agree, 100%. E.G. The term "Assault weapon" should not be used, unless it is in quotes, and preceeded by "so-called". However, "assault rifle" is not a gun-grabbers' term. They simply one of many which they mis-use.

[holymoly]

They simply one of many which they mis-use. = It is simply one of many which they mis-use.

[george76]

[Comstock1]

A couple things:

1) Is the editorialist prepared to stop accepting the advertising that is sure to bring in several thousand dollars a year because of the shows?

2) When are they gonna get it through their heads that when you and I want to trade or privately buy or sell guns we don't need a gun show? Plus, since the number of gun dealers has been reduced by nearly 80% thanks to Janet & Slick, many people wanting to buy new now find a show their best option--but not their only option.

3) I've been to dozens of gun shows in the past twenty years. I've never heard of someone being shot at a gun show. Even at the shows that allow ammo to be sold at the same time as guns, I've only heard of one problem--some idiot at the Houston Gun Show discharged an "unloaded gun" about ten years ago--the details are fuzzy.

4) I honestly don't believe that these reporters have a clue as to how many people go to gun shows or even how many own guns. I think it often gets by them that outisde of New York, California and a couple other states, the number of gun owners actually "vastly" outnumbers non-gun owners.

5) Everything that happens at a gun show could happen anywhere else that a gun show is legal. Dealer transactions, demonstrations, and private sales of guns don't need a show. The show is just for convenience.

6) I think somebody's math is way off. 5,000 shows a year and 100,000 to 300,000 guns are sold. That is saying that even in the best case scenario only 60 guns are sold per show? The larger shows in places like Dallas have more than a hundred dealsers theire. Am I supposed to believe they can only manage 60 units betweeen them? These numbers are crap!

7) And most importantly, where else am I gonna see cool Class III gear?

[depressed in 06]

SKS sniper rifles.

Is this not an oxymoron?