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Today in History: Marie Antoinette beheaded (10/16/1793)
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Posted on 10/16/2006 11:24:52 AM PDT by yankeedame

Marie Antoinette, Royalty

Born: 2 November 1755
Birthplace: Vienna, Austria
Died: 16 October 1793 (beheading)
Best Known As: Queen of France, 1775-93

Name at birth: Maria Antonia


Exécution de Marie Antoinette

...At two o'clock in the morning of 2 August 1793 Marie Antoinette was awoken by guards and told to get dressed. She was taken away from her daughter and sister-in-law and transferred across Paris to the Conciergerie Prison.


The Conciergerie Prison where Marie Antoinette was imprisoned before her death


"the Widow Capet"

She was re-named "the Widow Capet," after Hugh Capet, founder of the Capetian Dynasty. She was no longer to be referred to as "Marie Antoinette" but simply "Antoinette Capet" or "Prisoner No. 280."

A young peasant girl, Rosalie Lamorlière, was entrusted to take care of Marie Antoinette's needs, but these were few since the queen did not ask for much.


"Le cachot de la reine à la Conciergerie - gravure du temps."

On 2 September the republican journalist and politician, Jacques Hébert told the Committee of Public Safety, "I have promised [my readers] the head of Antoinette. I will go and cut it off myself if there is any delay in giving it to me."


Jacques Hébert

Most republicans now felt an intense hatred for her and they were determined to see her dead.

She was brought to trial on 14 October.

When she entered the courtroom, most people were shocked at her appearance. She was emaciated, prematurely aged, exhausted and care-worn. Forty witnesses were called by the prosecution. They returned to the Affair of the Necklace or alleged that the queen had plied the Swiss Guard with alcohol during the siege of the palace.

The most horrific charges came whenever Hébert accused her of having sexually abused her own son.

When the queen was pressed to answer this charge she replied, "If I have not replied it is because Nature itself refuses to respond to such a charge laid against a mother."

The following questions were actually put to the jury:
-Is it established that manoeuvres and communications have existed with foreign powers and either external enemies of the republic, the said manoeuvres, &c., tending to furnish them with assistance in money, give them an entry into French territory, and facilitate the progress of their armies?
- Is Marie Antoinette of Austria, the widow Capet, convicted of having co-operated in these maneuvres and maintained these communications?
- Is it established that a plot and conspiracy has existed tending to kindle civil war within the republic, by arming the citizens against one another?
- Is Marie Antoinette, the widow Capet, convicted of having participated in this plot and conspiracy?

The jury decided unanimously in the affirmative, and she was condemned to death for treason on 15 October and escorted back to the Conciergerie. She wrote her final letter known as her "Testament", to her sister-in-law Elisabeth. She expressed her love for her friends and family and begged that her children would not seek to avenge her murder.

Execution


Jacques-Louis David: Sketch of Marie Antoinette on the way to the guillotine

On the morning of 16 October a guard arrived to cut her hair and bind her hands behind her back. She was forced into a common, slow-moving cart and paraded through the streets of Paris for over an hour before reaching the Place de la Révolution where the guillotine stood.

She stepped lightly down from the cart and stared up at the guillotine.

The priest who had accompanied her whispered, "This is the moment, Madame, to arm yourself with courage."

Marie Antoinette turned to look at him and smiled, "Courage? The moment when my troubles are going to end is not the moment when my courage is going to fail me."

Legend states that her last words were "Monsieur, I ask your pardon. I did not do it on purpose," spoken after she had stepped on the executioner's foot.

At 12:15 on Wednesday 16 October 1793, Marie Antoinette was executed. Her head was exhibited to a cheering crowd. Her body was then taken and dumped in an unmarked mass grave in the Rue d'Anjou.


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1 posted on 10/16/2006 11:24:52 AM PDT by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame

Western Civilization took a heavy blow when the French monarchy was destroyed by anti-clerical socialists. So much of European history for the past 200 years is merely the reverberation of the explosion.


2 posted on 10/16/2006 11:30:18 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: yankeedame
That's no way to get ahead in life.
Not worth losing one's head over.
It's a shame she wasn't more headstrong.
She'll never be the head of a major corporation.
"That'll do, Austin."
3 posted on 10/16/2006 11:32:11 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: yankeedame

Kirstin Dunst looks nothing like the woman in the sketches. Dunst will play Marie A in the forthcoming film.


4 posted on 10/16/2006 11:33:54 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: yankeedame

Constrast and compare the American War for Independence with the French Revolution, not even twenty years apart.

In the former, the rebelling colonials relied upon God, and invoked the name of Jesus.

In the latter, the rebelling French mocked the Christian faith and openly murdered nuns and priests and destroyed churches.

At one point, the French revolutionaries took a common whore, placed upon her naked frame a sash proclaiming her to be "La Deite de Raison" and set her up on the altar of a Catholic church, bowing to her in mock worship.

The French Revolution was the first Communist Revolution.

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5 posted on 10/16/2006 11:38:07 AM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it!)
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To: sarasota
Marie Antoinette

6 posted on 10/16/2006 11:42:23 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Much better.


7 posted on 10/16/2006 11:44:06 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: yankeedame

yet another entry into the new trend of irreverant historical action figures
8 posted on 10/16/2006 11:45:09 AM PDT by verum ago (The Iranian Space Agency: set phasers to jihad!)
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To: yankeedame

I thought Marie Antonette was a movie actress from the 40's didn't know she was a Queen who was beheaded.

So was she guilty of incest or did her enemies set her up to execute her?


9 posted on 10/16/2006 11:46:59 AM PDT by Global2010
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To: Westbrook

Amen, brother. That's the first time -- outside a Birch meeting years ago -- that I've heard anyone correctly describe the French Revolution. And it's been downhill for the frogs ever since.

Thanks for getting it right.


10 posted on 10/16/2006 11:57:56 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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To: verum ago

OMG!

Where in the world do they sell these?

Talk about tasteless.


11 posted on 10/16/2006 12:04:33 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Westbrook

Do you have proof that the French revolutionaries mocked all christians or that they were communist (marxist, leninist, maoist, fascist) in nature?

My history books tell me that the French Revolution legalized (yes, legalized for the first time in 1,400 years) the open worship of protestantism, sabbatarianism, Judaism, mohammedism, paganism, agnosticism, and even atheism if you so chose in your own free will. They also eliminated the state mandated coersion that the Catholic Church control a tithe (1/10) of all civil taxation. The Revolution also dismantled the Catholic hegemony in land distribution--church lands that could not be circulated into a free market economy. It also eliminated the Catholic Church intimately involved in secular politics of the sovereign nation on behalf of the interests of a foreign city-state theocracy. History tells us that the Catholic church co-ruled France in a pseudo-theocracy making all other religions and sects illegal, punishable by death if need be, and subject to all efforts of the Office of Inquizition--which meant all lands, titles, and wealth of non-conformists could be seized as church property on behalf of the Holy See. And the co-rule also made France's destiny guided by the ambitions of Roman popes that sometimes had horrible results for the French armies and navies.

BTW, you will notice that the US Constitution does not allow a state religion, nor a coersive tithe system to a state-mandated religion, nor an allowance for ecclesiatic positions in sectarian matters. The USA was not nor will not ever be a theocracy as long as the Constitution reigns supreme as law of the land. You have inalienable rights to free will choices. It was also a vision the French Revolutionists were initially trying to bring to the Republic.

So, in truth, the French Revolution was neither communist nor anti-religion. However, it did rid the country of its puppet strings under the sway of Pontiff et al.

That's what my history books tell me. Regarding communism, I think the second French Revolution of the 1840's was more likely a source influencing or influenced by Marx. It did not succeed.


12 posted on 10/16/2006 12:17:48 PM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: Westbrook

All revolutions seem to start off moderate. Later they are hijacked by radical extremists--the American Revolution being the exception. And it's highly possible that it would have taken that course were it not for the measured and temperate leadership of Washington.


13 posted on 10/16/2006 12:28:00 PM PDT by Cyclopean Squid (Clockwatcher Extraordinaire)
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To: sarasota

A preview for the movie came on tv while I was reading this.....weird.


14 posted on 10/16/2006 12:48:45 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Mr. Blonde

It sounds like a pretty good film, from the review I read in the NYTimes.


15 posted on 10/16/2006 12:50:07 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: sarasota

Hollywood does an extremely poor, poor, poor job of getting historical figures (female) right.

The worst was 'The Necklace' where every female lead was under 25 and a skeleton. When they all should have been older and heavier.

Looked like a "Teen History" movie.


16 posted on 10/16/2006 12:51:49 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: yankeedame
Oh, I forgot to FYI that that frown you see on her face in that pencil drawing by David was not one of contempt or scorn. It seems she suffered a mild stroke a day or two before her execution, this caused part of her face to "droop".
17 posted on 10/16/2006 12:52:46 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: najida

It isn't like they have a lot of options for heavier actresses.


18 posted on 10/16/2006 1:00:21 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Mr. Blonde

True,
but the fashions of the era look very weird on boney frames. The corsets were made for plumper, more buxom women. On very thin females, they looked very odd. Like no matter how tight they tied them, they never hit skin.


19 posted on 10/16/2006 1:05:27 PM PDT by najida (The internet is for kids grown up-- Where else could you have 10,000 imaginary friends?)
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To: yankeedame

Thanks for this post - reading a book on "The Terror" now - unfortunately it takes a very pro-revolutionary bias - as if all those folks deserved to have their heads chopped off. I actually trace all the madness back to the "enlightenment" - that was the equivalent of Eve biting into the apple - once man is deemed as being either perfect or perfectable - watch out! Of course the islamofascists' solution of theocracy is no good either. The Pope nailed it when he said the greatest good is served when faith is combined with logos - a balance is truly needed.


20 posted on 10/16/2006 1:12:44 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: yankeedame

It seems to me that Marie Antoinette was a simple young woman who was easilly spoiled in royalty, and who made a very convenient symbol for all that was wrong with France. That France was never able to conclude or resolve its own revolution tells us more than we need to know about its intellectual and philosophical leadership. More and more, the American Revolution, with so many great minds devoted to it, looks like a one time deal.


21 posted on 10/16/2006 3:38:15 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: sully777
Your statement seems to be that one form of religious persecution acceptable. In mocking the Roman Catholic Church, raising up "La Deite de Raison" in her place, Christianity itself was being mocked.

Protestants also condemned heretics to die, so your point about the Inquisition misses the mark.

The US Constitution allowed for state churches, just none on the Federal level.
22 posted on 10/16/2006 5:33:29 PM PDT by GoLightly
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To: Continental Soldier
It seems to me that Marie Antoinette was a simple young woman who was easilly spoiled in royalty, and who made a very convenient symbol for all that was wrong with France.

Marie Antoinette was villified in her lifetime, although afterwards somewhat exonerated, or at least treated more sympathetically.

Part of her frivolty and extravagance stemmed from frustration over her husband Louis XVI's sexual problems. Their marriage went unconsummated for seven years. After his problem was corrected, and they started having children, she started to mature. However, she never regained her reputation or popularity among the French people.

23 posted on 10/16/2006 10:47:25 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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To: GoLightly; uglybiker
Your statement seems to be that one form of religious persecution acceptable. In mocking the Roman Catholic Church, raising up "La Deite de Raison" in her place, Christianity itself was being mocked.

"La Deite de Raison"--the goddess of reason as a whore persecuted Catholics...many a fundamentalist would role his eyes in the strong irony. In any event, I never said that any form of persecution is acceptable in my original post. Your comment suggests you view humor such as mockery as a form of religious persecution? On the contrary, mockery is great sport amongst every religious sect as a form of teaching--read Elijah's taunt of the priests of Baal or Jesus' taunts of the religious caste systems of his day.

Yet, your comment is not really connected to my original post. Regardless of your formed bias, iconoclastic behavior is not persecution. It's actually protected by the US constitution as free speech (unless in your ideal theocracy, you will revoke such freedoms). Iconoclastic views may be unpopular with a certain group taunted; however, it is not the same as the massacre of Beziers. Mockery is not the same as the Albigenses Crusade which was a church-state mandated persecution. The double cross of the Knights Templar was persecution. Krystalnacht was persecution. Anti-catholic laws in northern Europe was persecution. Sunday laws forcing Jews and Muslims to miss two days of work were subtle forms of persecution. Killing all Druids was persecution. Banning the use of the Celtic language in England was persecution. Killing Armenian Christians was persecution. Making Mithra ism illegal was persecution. Destroying the Library of Alexandria/Pergamon was unthinkable stupidity and a calculated persecution of the world of the "pagan"...Do you see the vast differences? As per my original post, allowing freedom of thought built up the USA on the idea of Enlightenment. Allowing freedoms is good although an icon may get mocked once in a while...at least no one loses their rights, private property, and/or life by the cold hand of the state.

Protestants also condemned heretics to die, so your point about the Inquisition misses the mark.

Perhaps you should study the Inquisition closer, particularly as it involves the French government duties toward Rome. The French Republic's foreign and domestic policies were no longer led by the nose by the Office of Inquisition out of Rome after 1787. My point is that Protestant sects, nonconformists, and all other non-christians were technically outlawed in pre-revolution France. And Saint Bart's Day proved that a monarch's word could be revoked by royal-ecclestistical whimsy at any time. That meant they could be subject to capital punishment. That meant that all their substance could be confiscated. That meant they were subject to constant harassment from the state (see the history of double jeopardy in American law) on grounds of conscious. My point was that these sects along with other religions were freed from being "illegal" during the Revolution ...so your point is a non sequitur.

The US Constitution allowed for state churches, just none on the Federal level.

May I suggest you purchase a copy of the Constitution. US Constitution does not allow a mandated state-religion on the federal or state level. The state of Maryland does not grant the Catholic Church sole custody of ecclesiastical authority. The state of Oklahoma does not grant the Southern Baptist Convention the rights granted to the Church of England in the UK. The state of Delaware does not force children to attend Lutheran-only schools. The tax monies of the citizens of Utah are not tithed to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. There is no state church in the USA.

You would do well to read my comments carefully as it relates to the post I was reacting to.
24 posted on 10/17/2006 11:27:50 AM PDT by sully777 (You have flies in your eyes--Catch-22)
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To: yankeedame

Rush--"Bastille Day"

There's no bread, let them eat cake
There's no end to what they'll take
Flaunt the fruits of noble birth
Wash the salt into the earth

But they're marching to Bastille Day
La guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Free the dungeons of the innocent
The king will kneel and let his kingdom rise

Bloodstained velvet, dirty lace
Naked fear on every face
See them bow their heads to die
As we would bow as they rode by

And we're marching to Bastille Day
La guillotine will claim her bloody prize
Sing, oh choirs of cacophony
The king has kneeled, to let his kingdom rise

Lessons taught but never learned
All around us anger burns
Guide the future by the past
Long ago the mould was cast

For they marched up to Bastille Day
La guillotine claimed her bloody prize
Hear the echoes of the centuries
Power isn't all that money buys


25 posted on 10/17/2006 10:47:49 PM PDT by TheRealDBear
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