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Recent Changes to FreeRepublic - Feedback Thread
Recent Changes to FreeRepublic ^ | October 13, 2001 | topher

Posted on 10/13/2001 8:31:34 PM PDT by topher

John Robinson posted and asked for tests of the new search engine features.

One thing I saw was that if a large list is used, your name may be part of ... -- the ending name on the list.

So if you see someone has replied to you on a thread, and then you go to that thread and that message, your screen name may not be there. This may confuse you, as it did initially me.

The purpose of this thread is to document any confusion on the changes so that people understand that if they are being pinged on a thread, they may not see their screen name, as the list may be too large.

One feature John Robinson and company could add, though it might be troublesome, is to put the searchers screenname in the pinged list, as the first one, if it is in the list of those being pinged.

As an example of this would be:

To: John Robinson; Deport; Irma; Commander in Chief; Jim Robinson; Ron Paul; ...

If your name was in the ... part (or truncated part of the to list), then it should read as follows:

To: topher; John Robinson; Deport; Irma; Commander in Chief; Jim Robinson; ...


TOPICS: Free Republic; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS:
Maybe others have seen other things that they may want to add to the new changes, after reading the original thread on Changes on October 12 to FreeRepublic.
1 posted on 10/13/2001 8:31:34 PM PDT by topher
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To: topher
Luv that new self-search!
2 posted on 10/13/2001 8:33:48 PM PDT by umgud
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To: topher
I love it so far....except for the reply to ALL option...Hope John removes it or lets each user set a preference for it.
3 posted on 10/13/2001 8:34:43 PM PDT by is_is
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To: topher
Apologies if some think this is a vanity post.

I consider a feedback thread to the original thread. Note that the link will point you to a To List that does not have my screen name, but does have it in the thread as it appears on the screen.

Other feedback may be welcome, but I will not bother folks with this. I am trying to point something out with this thread. I think there were 450 posts to the original thread, so I hope that this thread might be a way to, in a sense be continuation of the original thread, but also be a feedback thread.

God bless, and apologies if you think this is vanity.

4 posted on 10/13/2001 8:37:48 PM PDT by topher
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To: is_is
You might want to make a private reply to John Robinson on that.

If enough other people suggest it be removed, we can use reply ALL to try to vote on how it should be used or perhaps have a user setable parameter if you want this turned on or off.

5 posted on 10/13/2001 8:49:59 PM PDT by topher
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To: is_is
I love it so far....except for the reply to ALL option...Hope John removes it or lets each user set a preference for it.

The 'all' has to go - it will tend to clog up self search when disruptors get to yell "Look at me" - if I wanted to hear what some of these idiots have to say I'll look em up.

Going directly to the answer directed at you could be accomplished with a find. By skipping to the one response you lose the thought of the thread.

My $.02

6 posted on 10/13/2001 8:51:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: topher
The reply to "all" is a headache. It needs to go. Otherwise, I love the new setup.
7 posted on 10/13/2001 8:54:49 PM PDT by Roebucks
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To: Roebucks; John Robinson; Mike Darancette; is_is
Sounds like alot of people do not want the ALL feature (or maybe it is an unwanted feature).

Still I did suggest that ALL could be configurable on a per user basis. But what the initial state of that feature should be is unclear (on or off for newbies).

I will send John Robinson a private reply that this seems to be an issue. I think John and Jim have done a great job with FreeRepublic. In my humble opinion, I think the Founding Fathers of this great nation would be very proud to see what John and Jim (and many others have done) with FreeRepublic.

8 posted on 10/13/2001 9:07:50 PM PDT by topher
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To: topher
I like the "ALL" option very, very much.
9 posted on 10/13/2001 9:08:23 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: topher
I am certainly not a complainer, however, I really do not like the "all" in my self-search.
10 posted on 10/13/2001 9:21:54 PM PDT by whoever
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To: topher; John Robinson
I vote for an off switch in "Preferences" for the "all" function.

Further, on the topic of "Preferences", the selection menu for number of article lead-in words seems stuck at 100.

11 posted on 10/13/2001 9:33:37 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: topher
I want a link to Florida getting their butt kicked by Auburn

WAR DAMN EAGLE

12 posted on 10/13/2001 9:45:40 PM PDT by LowOiL
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To: topher
OK, somebody, please...

What "all" option...where is it?

Thanks.

13 posted on 10/13/2001 9:52:18 PM PDT by moonhawk
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To: topher; John Robinson
(As I said on another thread) I would like to see the "Top" and "Last" buttons put on the "Post Reply" line of buttons (like in "Old Style.") They are very helpful, IMO.
14 posted on 10/13/2001 9:57:20 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: topher; John Robinson
...as well as, at the top and bottom of the thread - again, as in "Old Style." Thanks, John.
15 posted on 10/13/2001 10:00:51 PM PDT by American Preservative
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To: topher
How do you ping people?
16 posted on 10/13/2001 10:11:12 PM PDT by slimer
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To: topher
Still I did suggest that ALL could be configurable on a per user basis.

I'll concurr on that, that said FR is still better than all of the rest - Thanks Guys & Gals.

17 posted on 10/13/2001 11:30:34 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: Mike Darancette; topher
Going directly to the answer directed at you could be accomplished with a find. By skipping to the one response you lose the thought of the thread.

I see how it works now - COOL! Disregard above comment.

18 posted on 10/13/2001 11:35:06 PM PDT by Mike Darancette
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To: topher; John Robinson
paste this url in your browser
http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/notify
it will load full screen,
now File, Send, Shortcut to Desktop (I have reset my home page to this.)
OR
Just bookmark the page
NOTE: if you click on forum in lower right hand corner this page will remain active,
as soon as a new post or message comes in you'll hear a audio alert.
For this feature to work, you must be logged into Free Republic.

Thanks John for this feature!
19 posted on 10/13/2001 11:45:14 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: topher
Feedback:

change the links in the self-search page from target=_slave to target=new

make some change on the self-search page so replies TO you stand out from your own comments

reactivate the "to:" as a link to the thread you're replying to!

activate the names after the "to:" as links, to their profile pages (or, for bump lists, to "find in forums")

Get rid of the caret after all of our names

Keep up the good work!

20 posted on 10/13/2001 11:49:45 PM PDT by xm177e2
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To: is_is
I love it so far....except for the reply to ALL option...Hope John removes it or lets each user set a preference for it.

I'd also like to see posts color-coded or otherwise conspicuously marked as to whether they are from-user, to-user, or to-all.

21 posted on 10/13/2001 11:54:00 PM PDT by supercat
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To: topher; John Robinson
I think the All is useful for ongoing threads that change daily.
for example the Guild thread, whoever starts the new thread posts to:
All with new url, everyone on that thread (only) gets notified.
All would be useful on a thread where a VALID new post, i.e. real breaking news,
i.e. just found out ... was a hoax or whatever.
All valid for urgent announcement on a thread like ...Today deadline to mail packages to troops etc.
Again All only posts to those on that particular thread.
I think some posters got upset when a lot of people on last thread (recent changes)
got "pinged" by everyone else on that thread.
and that's my 2 cents worth!
22 posted on 10/13/2001 11:55:57 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: John Robinson
[repeating for JR]

I love it so far....except for the reply to ALL option...Hope John removes it or lets each user set a preference for it.

I'd also like to see posts color-coded or otherwise conspicuously marked as to whether they are from-user, to-user, or to-all.

23 posted on 10/14/2001 12:08:00 AM PDT by supercat
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To: topher
There was a Huge discussion of " ALL" on the thread :

Recent Changes @ FreeRepublic 12-Oct-2001

24 posted on 10/14/2001 12:14:28 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: topher; John Robinson; secretagent; xm177e2
From topher:
One feature John Robinson and company could add, though it might be troublesome, is to put the searchers screenname in the pinged list, as the first one, if it is in the list of those being pinged.

As an example of this would be:

To: John Robinson; Deport; Irma; Commander in Chief; Jim Robinson; Ron Paul; ...

If your name was in the ... part (or truncated part of the to list), then it should read as follows:

To: topher; John Robinson; Deport; Irma; Commander in Chief; Jim Robinson; ...

Agreed. Also, if "all" remains enabled (either globally or through a setting), would like to see that put up front as well (either before or after an actual ping would work).
From secretagent:
Further, on the topic of "Preferences", the selection menu for number of article lead-in words seems stuck at 100.
Haven't touched the article lead-in setting for a while, though it does NOT apply to the new self-search. I have some rather lengthy replies that display in full when I have that option selected.
From xm177e2:

change the links in the self-search page from target=_slave to target=new

make some change on the self-search page so replies TO you stand out from your own comments

reactivate the "to:" as a link to the thread you're replying to!

activate the names after the "to:" as links, to their profile pages (or, for bump lists, to "find in forums")

Get rid of the caret after all of our names

Keep up the good work!

First, the targets are now selectable in the Focus settings menu. As a side note, is the url option enabled or going to be enabled in the links from the forum? If not, then that part of the URL can be axed from the coding to save a wee bit of bandwidth (just trying to save the bandwidth :-) .

Without more info as to exactly how you want the replies to you to stand out, can't quite comment fully on that. If you're using "new-look", you can force the link to your FReeper profile page that comes in the "Comment by" line to look different by editing (or entering) a specific font color/type/size/decoration in the .fr_header A:link comment and the .fr_header A:visited comment.

The "to:" searches are, per JohnRob, permanently broken in Perl/Forum 2.0. I THINK JohnRob set something up for bump lists, though I can't remember yet. As for the remainder of the searches, that'll be restored when Focus search is up and running.

I never noticed the caret, and it's not there now (at least in IE6 or in the source code).

Echo on the last comment. Thanks for putting up a thread after Self-Search 3.0 (I know John's calling the whole package Focus 1.0, but it's still Forum 3.0 to me-VBG) went live.


One last gripe; with the new-look self-search, there is no link that goes directly to the reply (a real pain if the brief method or anything short of the full reply is selected). If you could work it in there, say at the reply number like the Old-Style/Classic methods, would be appreciated by both us and the server.
25 posted on 10/14/2001 6:51:03 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: xm177e2; John Robinson
Get rid of the caret after all of our names
Guess I should have read the Focus settings page a bit more carefully; the caret is there to designate links that open in a new window (since I don't have things set that way, I never saw it). IMHO, it should only exist for debugging purposes.
26 posted on 10/14/2001 7:08:55 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: John Robinson
I see the "?new=1" feature still works on self-search if typed in manually (for those who missed the beta-test thread, that feature limits self-search to posts to/from you (or all as self-search currently stands) after you last checked. When can we expect that to show up on the self-search page as a button?

Better yet, at least from a bandwidth standpoint, make that the default and allow an expanded self-search via a link.

27 posted on 10/14/2001 7:25:07 AM PDT by steveegg
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To: John Robinson
When I accessed FR using a bookmark of http://206.112.97.70/ I would have to log in every time I attempted to reply or use the "settings" button. Apparently the cookies are not being set when using this URL.

I am using IE 6 and do not have the problem using the http://www.freerepublic.com URL and my settings and preferences work.

Thanks for what you do. I love this new version.

28 posted on 10/14/2001 7:44:04 AM PDT by rw4site
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To: rw4site
Cookies will not work with http://206.112.97.70/ You must use http://www.freerepublic.com
29 posted on 10/14/2001 8:59:51 AM PDT by John Robinson
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To: is_is
I agree with the 'reply to all' comment. More often than not that is not something I would go back to read but when it automatically pings you to it you have no idea that it is not a direct post to you.
30 posted on 10/14/2001 9:03:34 AM PDT by riley1992
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To: John Robinson
I note that the injuction against personal attacks and racist and violent posts is missing from the reply page; I caught it while replying to a disruptor.
31 posted on 10/15/2001 6:20:00 PM PDT by NovemberCharlie
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