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Anthrax Evidence Points To State Sponsor
ABCNEWS.COM ^ | 10-16-01 | Gary Matsumoto

Posted on 10/16/2001 8:56:37 PM PDT by dogbyte12

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To: El Gato
What if they don't want to create "terror."

What if they just want to kill us?

The evil one has the hunger of a serial killer.

"No, it's not. The purpose of terrorism is to create terror."

22 posted on 10/16/2001 9:35:30 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Rushian
Sounds more like a pending patent. What happens if someone violates the patent? Is there a secret civil court where suit can be brought?
23 posted on 10/16/2001 9:38:50 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: dogbyte12
Bin Laden's strategy seems to be to insert small amounts of controlling effort into critical points in our system, where their effect will be multiplied by the existing components of our system. He used both our planes and buildings as weapons to multiply the number of deaths that his small squad could cause. He uses the media to amplify the terror effect of a few cases of anthrax by striking at the media itself, putting fear into the voices, faces, and words of media folk. He uses the omnipresense of the US Mail to constantly remind us to be afraid. In short, his strategic model is the amplifier. We've got to think carefully about our system from his strategic viewpoint to guard against further damage.
24 posted on 10/16/2001 9:39:32 PM PDT by atafak
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To: ladyinred
I'd be willing to bet this has Saddam's finger prints all over it.
25 posted on 10/16/2001 9:39:53 PM PDT by blackbart.223
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To: atafak
Can you predict what system he'll go after next. Your analysis was on the money.

Bin Laden's strategy seems to be to insert small amounts of controlling effort into critical points in our system, where their effect will be multiplied by the existing components of our system.

He used both our planes and buildings as weapons to multiply the number of deaths that his small squad could cause. He uses the media to amplify the terror effect of a few cases of anthrax by striking at the media itself, putting fear into the voices, faces, and words of media folk. He uses the omnipresence of the US Mail to constantly remind us to be afraid. In short, his strategic model is the amplifier. We've got to think carefully about our system from his strategic viewpoint to guard against further damage.

26 posted on 10/16/2001 9:43:49 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: dogbyte12
Anyone know the life span of these spores?
27 posted on 10/16/2001 9:44:49 PM PDT by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Basically for ever.
28 posted on 10/16/2001 9:45:21 PM PDT by Clinton's a rapist
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To: dogbyte12
Anthrax Evidence Points To State Sponsor

Which state? Hollywood's "State of D'Nile"?

29 posted on 10/16/2001 9:45:42 PM PDT by wayne_shrugged
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To: GOPJ
Can you predict what system he'll go after next. Your analysis was on the money.

Perhaps it will indeed be "the money" (aka CASH) ... talk about a way to disrupt daily commerce.
Can you just immagine Anthrax infected CASH?

I shudder to even think about this scenario ...

30 posted on 10/16/2001 10:11:17 PM PDT by ~Peter
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To: GOPJ
Can you predict what system he'll go after next. Your analysis was on the money.

This is no place to put forth specific plots that the death lovers may not yet have come up with. Our best immediate defense is to throw all non-citizen Islamics out of the country immediately.

31 posted on 10/16/2001 10:19:08 PM PDT by atafak
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To: homegroan
Perhaps the sender also got access to an anthrax vaccine from his allied government or pet rogue scientist.
32 posted on 10/16/2001 10:31:45 PM PDT by The_Reader_David
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To: xm177e2
... Plus, it takes 10,000 spores in the lungs to give you pulmonary Anthrax. They can afford to breathe in a few.

In the article it states:

One indicator, Spertzel says, is particle size. Inducing pulmonary, or inhaled, anthrax requires 8,000 to 10,000 spores embedded in particles between one to five microns in diameter. That amount would fit on the period at the end of this sentence.

This indicates that just one 5 micron particle may have enough spores to infect you. Two, definitely.

33 posted on 10/16/2001 10:52:18 PM PDT by Dan Cooper
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No, I think it means the spores are embedded in 5 micron particles, and you can fit enough of those 5 micron particles into the period at the end of a sentence.
34 posted on 10/16/2001 10:58:42 PM PDT by xm177e2
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To: homegroan
how does the sender NOT inhale the spores? Even if he/she wears a gasmask while putting the stuff in the envelope, wouldn't some be left behind? They must go thru a lot of bleach and Cipro.

No, they go through a lot of senders.

35 posted on 10/16/2001 11:02:38 PM PDT by Octar
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To: dogbyte12
What Will Be Next On The Terrorist Hit Parade Since: "From the AP at 11:58 PM EDT "

Investigators have found that the strain of anthrax on the letter mailed to Daschle's office was ``a very potent form of anthrax that clearly was produced by someone who knew what he or she was doing,'' the majority leader said.

Three government sources, all speaking on condition of anonymity, said preliminary testing indicated the anthrax had been refined enough so that it could be easily dispersed through the air. One law enforcement official, also speaking on condition of anonymity, said the anthrax was in a purified form that could be used as a weapon. Additional testing was being done late Tuesday."

Ok, lets get real. It seems the government has been down playing the Anthrax bio terrorist attacks and their coordinated relationship with the events of 911 in order to "not alarm the masses" and to avoid wide spread panic. But let's look at the facts:

1. The Anthrax in FL was inhalation Anthrax, i.e. the weaponized MANUFACTURED form, not found in nature.

2. The Anthrax Daschel received was also (according to ABC and FOX News) "not produced by amatures but very powerful... very refined and very fine." Again, not your garden variety Anthrax. Huge centrifuges costing millions upon millions of dollars must be used in order to refine it. That takes the resources of a State to produce the weaponized Anthrax that has been used. The primary suspect is Sadam and Iraq. Don't forget, Atta, the leader of the 911 attacks, met not once but twice with high ranking Iraqi officials. He also went to a FL Pharmacy asking for something to treat his hands which were very red and itchy. Atta was also the one making serious inquiries into crop dusters in FL.

3. The Attacks, like those of 911 were well coordinated and the targets were all high visibility targets designed to maximize the terror and also provide the perpetrators with information on how successful their attacks were.

Like the first attack on the WTC, these latest attacks made an impact but failed to gain the results they were after = the deaths of thousands and the disruption of American commerce/life.

The terrorists used the results of the first attempt on the WTC to re-think the problem and try again, with devastating results. My question to everyone on FR is this:

What Do You Think Will Be Next On The Terrorist Hit Parade Since The Anthrax Attack Has Failed? Small pox, or will they go in another direction?

Dr. S

36 posted on 10/16/2001 11:13:16 PM PDT by Jmouse007
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To: xm177e2
Thank you for the clarification. Still, that's not a whole h*ll of a lot of material that needs to be inhaled in order to cause infection.
38 posted on 10/17/2001 12:15:10 AM PDT by Dan Cooper
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To: Jmouse007
Trial run?

3. The Attacks, like those of 911 were well coordinated and the targets were all high visibility targets designed to maximize the terror and also provide the perpetrators with information on how successful their attacks were.

39 posted on 10/17/2001 12:02:03 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: dogbyte12
I resent the implication that a State could make any product better than private industry. Even Anthrax.

Does anyone really belive that our legislators in Washington that are currently hiding under their beds could manufacture higher quality Anthrax than Merck for example.

More war time propaganda to sway public opinion.

George, if you want to take out Bagdad just do it.

40 posted on 10/17/2001 12:06:44 PM PDT by eFudd
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