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Saudi Students Praise 9-11 Attack at San Diego State University
San Diego State University Daily Aztec | 10-17-01 | Jason Williams, Editor

Posted on 10/17/2001 4:30:52 PM PDT by Travis McGee

10/17/01

Student: Attack praised

Conversation of three Saudi students about Sept. 11 events overheard in library

By Jason Williams

Managing Editor

On Saturday, Sept. 22, Zewdalem Kebede, a political science senior and native Ethiopian, was studying in the Reserve Book Room in Love Library. Nearby, a group of Saudi Arabian students sat talking in Arabic -- a language Kebede speaks fluently, having learned it in his native country.

He was attracted to their conversation when the topic shifted to the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

"They started talking about the Sept. 11 action," he said. "And with that action they were very pleased. They were happy. And they were regretting of missing the 'Big House.'

"It was a long chitchat."

Kebede tried to continue studying, attempting to ignore the students, but finally he approached their table and spoke to them.

"Guys, what you are talking is unfair. How do you feel happy when those 5 to 6,000 people are buried in two or three buildings?" Kebede said. "They are under the rubble or they became ash.

"And you are talking about the action of bin Laden and his group. You are proud of them. You should have to feel shame."

Kebede spoke to the students in Arabic so as not to disturb others studying in the library.

"I didn't want to spread it," he said. "I didn't want the rest of students to hear it."

Another Saudi student approached from a nearby table and spoke to Kebede in English, asking if he had a problem with the other students speaking in Arabic.

A heated exchange took place.

Kebede told him there was no problem, and the man asked if Kebede was going to threaten them, to which he replied he was not and returned to his table.

After about 30 minutes, two university police officers approached Kebede and asked to speak with him. Kebede related his story of what had occurred.

The officers informed Kebede that he should have reported the incident to them rather than get involved.

"I thought to report it to the police, in order that they follow it and so on, but they would hear my words only, so it is useless," Kebede said.

"It was upsetting. Very upsetting."

University Police said both parties involved in the disturbance were cautioned and statements were taken from one of the Saudi Arabian men and Kebede.

Because the Saudi students are listed as victims in the report and the case is non-criminal, their names cannot be released.

The police report states that University Police responded to a disturbance involving Arab students, that Kebede was contacted and that he understood Arabic.

No specific mention was made in the report regarding what Kebede heard the Saudi students saying.

University Police Crime Prevention Specialist Marc Fox said that it basically boils down to "a free speech issue."

"It's horrific, yet legal," Fox said.

All agencies are operating at a "heightened state" since the Sept. 11 attacks, Fox said, and a background investigation is conducted in any instances resembling a threat to see if a statement was "more than just rhetoric."

Fox said the university routinely networks with off-campus law enforcement, and that this case was passed on to "other agencies," though he could not identify them specifically.

"This case was looked at further," Fox said. "It was not dropped. Let's put it that way."

The case is no longer active with University Police.

On Sept. 27, The Daily Aztec printed a crime brief detailing the verbal harassment of four Saudi Arabian men in the Love Library Reserve Book Room. In the brief, Kebede was described as a "foreign national" who accused the men of being connected to the Sept. 11 attacks.

Shortly before the publication of this brief, Kebede related his experience in the library to his History 514 class during a discussion about the terrorist attacks. Students from the class contacted The Daily Aztec about the inconsistency.

Kebede received a letter from the university's Center for Student Rights, dated Sept. 25, requesting that he set up a meeting to discuss his conduct in the Reserve Book Room. The letter stated that he had allegedly been "verbally abusive to other students" and that he had three days to respond or else face possible sanctions.

The letter also stated that "any student of a campus may be expelled, suspended, placed on probation or given a lesser sanction for: Abusive behavior directed toward, or hazing of, a member of the campus community."

Kebede said he met with University Judicial Officer Antionette Jones on Oct. 3.

"What she had heard previously and what I said to her when I went to give my statement according to the summons is different. She told me what the police officer reported. It was not proper or accurate what she had heard," Kebede said.

Cases handled by the Center for Student Rights are considered private and not made available to the public.

"What have I done to these Arab guys? I have done nothing," Kebede said. "How can they be happy when innocent people just perished? Vanished by the cruel actions of their own brothers.

"It's sad, that's what I told them. Of this am I going to be charged and penalized with a warning or a probation or expelling from school? No, damn. No one would do that.

"I haven't committed any wrong."

In numerous addresses, President George W. Bush has made clear that the war on terrorism is not a war on the Muslim people nor the Islamic faith, stating that Americans should be tolerant and not treat Muslims different than any other American.

Across the nation there have been episodes of hate, some deadly.

University President Stephen Weber entreated students not to give in to and propagate a backlash against international students on campus in an address at the Sept. 13 memorial for those lost in the attacks.

Muslim Student Association President Omar Behnawa has been watching for the backlash on campus, and has yet to see any episodes of hate or anti-U.S. sentiment.

"I have no reason to doubt that it happened," Behnawa said about Kebede's experience. "I'm saying that it's a very sick thing. But I could possibly see that happening."

A decision on the case has since been made, and Kebede will face no penalties at this time, though he was warned in a letter received Oct. 9 that future involvement in "confronting members of the campus community in a manner that is found to be aggressive or abusive" will result in severe disciplinary sanctions.

The letter also stated: "You are admonished to conduct yourself as a responsible member of the campus community in the future."

"I'm naturalized American. I have taken an oath to live to protect this country, so that is my part to do -- for that I am happy," Kebede said. "I am an honest citizen for this country. I showed those guys that there are people who love America, who defend America. That's what I showed.

"Is that a crime?"


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To: van_erwin
Thanks for the picture. Now I can put faces to my fervent wish that all of these lunatics get the hell out of my country.
101 posted on 10/17/2001 6:12:01 PM PDT by roughrider
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To: pointsal
I went to college at Pittsburg (Kansas) State University in the late 70's. We had a significant population of Iranian students, some who "PROTESTED" against the USA.

Unfortunately for them, a couple of pick-up truck loads of cowboys with baseball bats "defended" the good ole' USA!

After this episode, the "PROTESTS" stopped.

102 posted on 10/17/2001 6:12:51 PM PDT by stanleypie
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To: Travis McGee
OK - Who wants to go down to S.D. and bust some heads?
103 posted on 10/17/2001 6:12:55 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP
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To: goodnesswins
Are we in Nazi Germany????.....Close-when you're talking about the People's Republic of Kalifornia,you may as well be speaking about Nazis!
104 posted on 10/17/2001 6:14:57 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee
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To: gimme1ibertee
Close-when you're talking about the People's Republic of Kalifornia,you may as well be speaking about Nazis!

How can you say that when Gray Davis has just approved domestic partner benefits package for gays and lesbians, and the state has instituted a $200 million a year drug abuser welfare package?

Depends on how you get your kicks, I guess.

105 posted on 10/17/2001 6:18:54 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: Travis McGee
This Student should go public with the names of the creeps that were saying this. And the actions of the university should be so publisized as to put them out of business. If it can be proven that these students said what they did then I say get em up against the wall. We don't need national ID cards. What we need is to expell our enemys the hell out of here.
106 posted on 10/17/2001 6:21:02 PM PDT by Revel
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To: SSN558
There is a strong anti American culture in CA, and it is promoted by corrupt politicians, low life bureaucrats, the media, and liberals in general

There is a lot of blame to lay on California, but this episode is not one of them - this clearly has its roots in the multicultural, upside-down world of academia and could have happened at almost ANY university throughout the country today. And you shouldn't paint San Diego withn that same broad "anti-American culture" brush that may apply elsewhere in the state.

107 posted on 10/17/2001 6:21:54 PM PDT by NilesJo
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To: dandelion
Re post #6: It's clear that Mr. Kebede is black - so this is clearly a HATE CRIME against HIM.

Good logic. Turn this around to shove their own hate right in their face. Mr. Kebede is to be congratulated for confronting these undesireable, ungrateful guests in our country.

Americanism is clearly a superior culture to where these Saudi's come from. If you doubt that, just ask Saudi women. If you don't know any, read the paperback titled "Princess".

If you can't find it on the web or in stores, reply or send me an e-mail for ISBN # etc.

108 posted on 10/17/2001 6:28:04 PM PDT by StopGlobalWhining
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To: van_erwin
I guess the girl who made the page is also a Mexican-American

Interesting. Looks like the radical la Raza types are mingling quite well with the radical Muslim terrorists. Apparently they all hate Jews. The Mexican is making the web pages and taking the pictures for the Muslims. Scary.

109 posted on 10/17/2001 6:28:12 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: zog
Where I happen to live, the Mexicans aren't the communist, hate-America kinds, apparently at San Diego State University there are at least some who are 100% behind radical Muslims and are helping with the hate-Israel and promotion of the Arab propaganda. I hope something gets done----I'm sure many of these students are on full ride---taxpayer paid scholarships. They at least need to cut the government aid and make them work for a living.
110 posted on 10/17/2001 6:32:41 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: van_erwin
Let me get this straight. You joined FR a few days ago

van_erwin member since September 12th, 2001
 
and one of the first ways you can think of to contribute is to search the web and find a pic of kids you don't know, misidentify them, post the pic on a thread about Saudi students and imply that these kids have something to do with the topic of the thread, clearly implying a threat. And for good measure make a trivial crack about grammar. Nice work. You'll find some company with the losers at FR, but not much. Most of us here are responsible people, thank God.
111 posted on 10/17/2001 6:38:56 PM PDT by beckett
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To: NilesJo
Actually, it seems San Diego is one area of focus in the terrorism investigation. See my earlier post.
112 posted on 10/17/2001 6:39:54 PM PDT by van_erwin
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To: beckett
I would have thought like you----but I checked out the website and the Mexican has links to the radical EZLN in Mexico, she obviously hates the USA, and the website of the Muslim group is extreme anti-zionism and very anti-USA. These are America haters who would most obviously cheer the deaths of the 7000 innocent Americans on Sept 11.
113 posted on 10/17/2001 6:41:59 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: beckett
You'll find some company with the losers at FR

I'm not sure what that remark is supposed to mean. I guess you want to draw me into a flame war, but no thanks, not interested.

114 posted on 10/17/2001 6:42:10 PM PDT by van_erwin
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To: van_erwin
I just sent e-mail to the pres. and fox. What animals these people are. Harassing the patriot and defending the enemies who revel in the destruction of our country. With these kinds of actions, we might as well hand over the keys to the city to Bin Laden.
115 posted on 10/17/2001 6:42:15 PM PDT by rebdov
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To: beckett
It's a "he said, she said" case. Commonsense may tell us that Mr. Kebede's version rings true, but unless one of the Saudi students corroborates him, he is s*** out of luck.

Why do you automatically assume the Ethiopian is a liar? You don't know him, you have no right to make these accusations.

116 posted on 10/17/2001 6:45:03 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: van_erwin
Ignore beckett, there are plenty of muslim terrorist sympathizers who believe anyone who thinks muslims might harm americans is a racist, even if they are ethiopian blacks.
117 posted on 10/17/2001 6:46:20 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Travis McGee
Personally, I vote for rule 155...
118 posted on 10/17/2001 6:47:06 PM PDT by HoweverComma
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To: Travis McGee
I am move convinced than ever that the US is on a suicide mission. We are killing ourselves with our tolerance.
119 posted on 10/17/2001 6:49:05 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: van_erwin
You are welcome here. There are some people who appoint themselves the amateur police. Like the ol' geezers who park in the left lane at cruise controlled 55 to show their respect for the law. Just pass them on. They are not worth your response.
120 posted on 10/17/2001 6:50:18 PM PDT by rebdov
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