Posted on 10/28/2001 11:26:31 PM PST by JohnHuang2
Edited on 07/12/2004 3:48:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
George W. Bush and members of his Cabinet have continually emphasized that in our war against terrorism, we have to preserve what House Majority Leader Dick Armey has called "the precious Bill of Rights that we are fighting to defend."
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What the heck do these two statements have to do with each other?
Nat, I am fine with what Justice is doing. Did the Supreme Court decision take into consideration the factor of a nation at war? I'm certain it didn't. Perhaps the almighty Supreme Court would have rendered a different opinion. Perhaps not. In any case, I'm sure ol' "Dr. Terror" is still under surveillance, as are a lot of others being released.
In case you hadn't notice, 5,000+ people are DEAD. INNOCENTS. If some possible suspects are inconvenienced because our government is trying to round up murderous bastards, I say TOO BAD...there are millions more of us out here who are willing to suffer those inconveniences, too, for the sake of finding and stopping more acts of atrocity.
the first casualty in war is truth.
As a matter of fact, the first casualty of this war was a certain group of 6,000 or so human beings who happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong time on September 11, 2001.
We didn't start this war. But we better be the ones to finish it, or we're dead.
2. I think life and death interests supercede any law. I know as a physician that legally it is true that in a life or death emergency one can act to protect life using reasonable judgement and not be held liable. This is also a principle of most religious law-saving life supercedes virtualy any religious mandate.
3.If suspects are not afforded due process, they should not be convicted. Depriving suspects of their rights is only justified to prevent terrorist acts. I think it reasonable that law enforcement choose between prosecution and protection in any individual case.
<4>.Constraints on our liberties are necessary here but prayers and vigilance are necessary. With both the government and the vigilantes earned trust is a large part of the equation. I welcome Mr Hentoff's vigilance.
I saw this man interviewed after he was released. (I believe they said that some of the hijackers were using his credit card, which had been stolen.)
He did not fault the FBI at all. He said he was a loyal American and felt the FBI was just doing what they had to do to protect the nation. He said, while he was relieved to be cleared, he thought their behavior was justified; and he didn't resent it at all.
There but for the grace of God go i.
I don't trust or respect Ashcroft at all. There's something slimy about that man, even if it's just his track record of letting things go. I became suspicious of him when he didn't challenge the election he lost. Explanations from his supporters that he was going to get another job anyway, and that going after his crooked opponents in that race would smack of being a sore loser just didn't cut it.
Had he insisted on taking on the democrats who used such blatantly illegal election practices against him, even though it could have cost him the AG slot, I would have a different view of him. That he didn't shows a disregard for law, and he has further shown willingness to let the Clinton administration's crimes slide. That doesn't sound like the kind of thing an honorable man would do. Ashcroft is a snake. The fact that he's the GOP's snake shouldn't be a comfort to anyone.
For any of the excesses of government to be tolerated under the justification of war, Congress must first declare war. There are Constitutional provisions for just this sort of emergency, and failing to utilize them just makes everything done outside those provisions illegal.
URL, article, date, please.
America's Fifth Column ... watch PBS documentary JIHAD! In America -- here
There but for the grace of God go I.
I'm with you Sauropod. Under these rules the next militia wacko that blows up a building gets all of us arrested and held without a lawyer.
Time to change that handle Bub. You've recovered all the way!
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