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Early Outspoken Opponents of Abortion - all women
Susan B Anthony Web Site ^

Posted on 11/23/2001 9:19:59 PM PST by AgThorn

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To: Sungirl
PERSONALLY, I think that a MAN should not screw any woman who he hasn't talked about keeping and raising babies together for the rest of their lives together. Maybe this is 'mens' fault. Yup...I do believe that is the case.

Do you really believe that it's 'men's' fault? We as woman have to take some blame and responsibility in the choices we've made. We're not always the victim. Some choices just make us appear that way. The woman still has the final say.

81 posted on 11/25/2001 11:37:53 AM PST by swheats
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To: swheats
Well...most times its 50/50. But rape, incest...etc...ALL MENS FAULT.
82 posted on 11/25/2001 12:50:22 PM PST by Sungirl
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To: AgThorn
Trust me, the point being made here is not lost on me. It is good to know that the mothers of feminism were against abortion. However, I've never been a fan of feminists of any ilk. I do not consider women who want equal pay for equal work or want to be treated as human beings necesarily "feminists". I just don't subscribe to the "men have always oppressed women" school of thought.
83 posted on 11/25/2001 1:01:21 PM PST by goodieD
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To: Sungirl
Well...most times its 50/50. But rape, incest...etc...ALL MENS FAULT.

So are you promoting now castration? What did women do before ROE V Wade? I still do not see rape and incest as reasons for continuing legalized abortions for the sake of convenience. The number of abortions per day/year is not due to rape and incest.

84 posted on 11/25/2001 2:57:44 PM PST by swheats
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To: nopardons
"What about the poor woman, whose baby has died in the womb... . If that child is removed, do you consider it an abortion ? "

Of course not. However, the deceased fetus of a moneyed woman is an entirely different matter.

Are you crazy? We are pro-LIFE,not pro-DEATH by sepsis!!

85 posted on 11/25/2001 7:51:54 PM PST by hillsborofox
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To: RnMomof7
BUMP! and Thanks!!!
86 posted on 11/25/2001 8:42:02 PM PST by ~EagleNebula~
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To: marylina
GREAT thread....come on over.
87 posted on 11/25/2001 9:00:36 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: Humidston
We have housed over 20 animals that would have been homeless including a skunk, a rabbit, mice, a bird and many cats and dogs. Also we have found homes for and given refuge to mother cats and their kittens and lost dogs. We take joy in feeding the wild squirrels and birds. We love, love, love animals and are completely prolife. We also have helped single moms and helped support children who needed help. Not said at all with the intent on blowing our horns but to show that we are prolife with huge amounts of love for babies and their moms and also have a heart for animals of many kinds. God loves people but he cares about the sparrow. ...the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts through the Holy Spirit, which is given unto us (Romans 5:5).
88 posted on 11/25/2001 9:10:52 PM PST by Bellflower
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To: Bellflower
BRAVO for you, Bellflower! We never had a skunk but we did nurse a whole litter of rabbits and assorted wild critters as well - including two baby squirrels which I had to feed with a bottle 'round the clock!

Hey, he wants pro-life? I'll give him pro-life! Nobody more soft-hearted than conservatives, eh? ...Whoever cares for the least of these....

God bless you!

89 posted on 11/25/2001 11:12:53 PM PST by Humidston
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To: Brad's Gramma
Great article; thanks for the PING. Bookmarking for future reference.
90 posted on 11/26/2001 4:14:07 AM PST by marylina
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To: Brad's Gramma
Thanks for your ping. I somehow missed it on the 23rd.

I see pcl hasn't changed one little bit. *Sigh*

91 posted on 11/26/2001 4:29:45 AM PST by Artist
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To: Artist
Pray, my friend, pray.
92 posted on 11/26/2001 6:01:31 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma
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To: AgThorn
I`m not looking for a fight AgThorn, but I`ll put on the old asbestos undies just in case. You said that there are about 1.3 million abortions performed in America every year. From what I found here it seems that there are significantly less people/families wanting to adopt babies than there are women having abortions.

I am not looking for arguments to justify abortion, I am genuinely interested to know what happens to all the extra babies that no-one will want. Any thoughts?

93 posted on 11/26/2001 9:21:55 PM PST by Slapper
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To: AgThorn
Bump for Life!
94 posted on 11/26/2001 9:24:46 PM PST by austinTparty
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To: Slapper
Now wouldn't that be a nice problem to have. I mean, the supply of babies has never exceeded the demand for them in this country. So, hence the hypothetical question, what if we just quit having abortions and then we had this problem?

It's a good question, and I only wish we could trade one problem for the other!! One has to admit that in many other countries, this problem literally does exist. That is partly why so many foreign nursery's and orphanages do such a good business over here. i.e. we are either killing off our own, or making the bureaucracy so difficult to adopt ... so we adopt theirs ... sad.

95 posted on 11/26/2001 10:03:02 PM PST by AgThorn
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To: AgThorn
“It had nothing to do with humanity, it couldn't have; it was a mass...”

---a reference to the Holocaust by Franz Stangl, Nazi commandant of extermination camps in Sobibor (March, 1942 -September, 1942) and Treblinka (September, 1942 - August, 1943).

Interviewed by Gitta Sereny in 1970, Stangl's comments later appeared in the book Into That Darkness: An Examination of Conscience (1983).

96 posted on 12/16/2001 6:56:28 PM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting
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To: goodieD
“It had nothing to do with humanity, it couldn't have; it was a mass...”

---a reference to the Holocaust by Franz Stangl, Nazi commandant of extermination camps in Sobibor (March, 1942 -September, 1942) and Treblinka (September, 1942 - August, 1943).

Interviewed by Gitta Sereny in 1970, Stangl's comments later appeared in the book Into That Darkness: An Examination of Conscience (1983).

97 posted on 12/16/2001 6:58:40 PM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting
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To: goodieD
"Well we all know that one isn't true. Women ARE free, and they still think nothing of murdering unborn children. I don't much care for the bit from Susan B blaming men more than women for abortion.. It's time many women started taking responsibility for their own sins.. I've listened to a lot of women in prison who blame their incarceration almost solely on the influence of some man."

100% true.

98 posted on 12/16/2001 7:04:51 PM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting
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