The "All The Witnesses Were Accused of Being Drunk Drunk" Myth:
It's routine for expert major incident interviewers to ask witnesses if they had any alcoholic beverages to drink and/or had taken any kind of drugs within 12-24 hours prior to making their observations and to determine all the details in the event of an affirmative answer.
"George Black: I'd almost make an observation that one of the things by virtue of my position I got to interview witnesses pretty quickly. In this case, even the FBI was reviewing, interviewing these witnesses, hours, even days, afterwards, and one of the things that we do not know about these witnesses, was what their condition was at the time they made these observations. I noticed that you refer to someone at Yacht Club on an evening during the summer. I suspect I know what some of their conditions might have been but that is a bit of information we do not have since they were delayed interviews". Source
"You write as though you may have taken part in the cover-up. Did you."
An accusation disguised as a question, a typical tinfoiler tactic that dramatizes their circular logic: They decree that TWA 800 was the victim of a "missile(s) shootdown", that high ranking government officials and thousands of other Americans have engaged in the criminal coverup of that decreed "truth" about the disaster and that those who disagree with them are therefore guilty of complicity in the felonious criminal coverup of "the missile(s) shootdown" of TWA 800.
"Having followed the link to the official report of witness 649, I found it contained a letter from a real expert witness analyst from the Suffolk County Police Department (Douglas S. Matulewich, Deputy Inspector, Commanding Officer, Marine Bureau) who was employed to determine if TWA 800 witness accounts indicate that a missile was involved. Inspector Matulewich along with an agent from the Defense Intelligence Agency triangulated several witness accounts and concluded this:"
[Underlined emphasis added][Caps in the original]
Witness Expert: "I became involved in a joint effort to determine the possibility of a missile shooting down TWA flight 800. The objective was to determine if the observations of eye witnesses could be plotted on a chart to determine a location from which a missile was shot. ... The above Latitude and Longitude locations INDICATES THE CENTER OF AN AREA THAT IS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED TO BE SEARCHED AND AT A MINIMUM A ONE (1) nautical mile area should be searched for the remains of equipment that would launch a portable missile. The possibility exists that the equipment was discarded and now remains on the ocean floor."
It is again appropriate to remind the readers what an "expert" is:
The tinfoiler alleges that Matulewich is a "Witness Expert". An expert witness interviewer conducts thorough and complete witness interviewers. Did Matulewich ever conduct any such witness interviews of any incident? Can the tinfoiler produce even one expert witness interview conducted by Matulewich?
No one can become an expert witness report analyst without knowing how to conduct an expert witness interview.
Did the tinfoiler notice that Matulewich "became involved in a joint effort" to see if they could find a possible missile launch point so that they could then look for "the remains of equipment that would launch a portable missile"?
Which is what James Kallstrom instructed his FBI agents to do at the outset.
"James Kallstrom’s erroneous assumption on the basis of intial reports that Flight 800 may have been the victim of a missile shootdown led to the FBI being authorized to seize control of the investigation from the NTSB at the outset. He promptly elbowed aside the NTSB Witness Interview Teams, as documented in NTSB Exhibit 4-A, and substituted his own agents to interview the witnesses, ignoring the fact that the NTSB Teams were far better qualified for that role. Making matters worse, as the complaints from so many of the witnesses reflect about extremely brief and sketchy interviews, it appears he gave them orders to move fast to find the "smoking gun" of a missile shootdown that he was apparently convinced would be readily found." Source
But Kallstrom publicly admitted later that no meaningful evidence of a missile shootdown of the 747 [or bomb] was ever found. Which, because of their circular logic, led the tinfoils to acccuse the FBI of a criminal coverup of "the truth". Which in turn required the tinfoil hatters to ignore the testimony and reports of government experts on other subjects such as explosives and forensic metallurgy documented in this source and its clickable link. Which the tinfoilers will inevitably allege was "more lies to coverup the truth".
Just as they will inevitably allege that this response to their fantasies is circular logic because most of them haven't the foggiest idea how to engage in logical deductive reasoning. As John Barry Smith put it, they are "spring loaded to the missile explanation".
To put it another way, the tinfoil hatters are reality impaired because their horrendous bias has destroyed their objectivity.
Yet another pathetic straw man argument in a long, long line of pathetic straw man arguments.
It does not matter that the doctor may have not seen "real shrapnel" from "real war wounds." These people had metal pieces in them - where did they come from? When other planes go down, the victims are not filled with metal fragments - at least, it has never been reported, and there have now been several major air crashes since TWA 800. If "virtually all" of the other crash victims don't have shrapnel like those of TWA 800 did, then the burden is on you (or the NTSB, FBI, etc) to explain why the TWA 800 victims, uniquely, did.
Asmodeus, that's worse than pathetic. Deputy Inspector Matulewich was a professional witness analyst who re-interviewed about a dozen or so key TWA 800 witnesses on location along with a DIA agent. From those witnesses he acquired the necessary data to plot the source of the "flare" that they saw.
Since it is established that Deputy Inspector Matulewich was in fact a professional witness analyst, it is up to you to prove he was not a competent professional. Simply declaring that a professional witness analyst is not an expert is just blowing hot air. It's your tin-foil hat that makes you think your hot air has substance. What's so pathetic is here you are declaring that you can know the truth about what witnesses saw from witness reports that you also declare are invalid. This is another classic crank delusion, that only you can know the truth. On the other hand Deputy Inspector Matulewich actually spoke to witnesses on location, yet of course only you can determine the truth... the master crank witness analyst Asmodeus.
Asmodeus is such a hack I might be inclined to believe he's really a missile theorist trying to make the opposition look stupid. Everything he's said that I've looked into falls apart. Just do a websearch on anything he talks about to get a better picture.
FIRO, a TWA 800 group headed by a professional physicist, filed a lawsuit over "The Shrapnel Myth," asking that the FBI release its findings on foreign bodies found embedded inside TWA 800 casualties. The FBI has refused to release the information to anyone, including families. If the shrapnel is a "myth," then what the hell is the FBI refusing to release? How can the FBI refuse to release a myth? Hasn't Asmodeus done any research on this subject he posses as an self-declared "expert" on?
Read about the foreign bodies cover-up here:
Asmodeus is such a hack I might be inclined to believe he's really a missile theorist trying to make the opposition look stupid. Everything he's said that I've looked into falls apart. Just do a websearch on anything he talks about to get a better picture.
FIRO, a TWA 800 group headed by a professional physicist, filed a lawsuit over "The Shrapnel Myth," asking that the FBI release its findings on foreign bodies found embedded inside TWA 800 casualties. The FBI has refused to release the information to anyone, including families. If the shrapnel is a "myth," then what the hell is the FBI refusing to release? How can the FBI refuse to release a myth? Hasn't Asmodeus done any research on this subject he posses as an self-declared "expert" on?
Read about the foreign bodies cover-up here: