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Arsenal seized at Westville house (Connecticut)
New Haven Register ^ | 12-12-01 | William Kaempffer

Posted on 12/12/2001 2:01:08 AM PST by Sandy

NEW HAVEN — Police in bulletproof vests Tuesday converged on a quiet Westville neighborhood and seized an arsenal of illegal assault rifles, canisters of live ammunition and a box of hand grenades from a pricey home.

A 31-year-old man who lives in the house was arrested.

"I've only seen this in a Bruce Willis movie," said one stunned neighbor, who came outside to survey the spectacle.

Inside 851 Forest Road, police recovered at least four AR-15 assault weapons, authorities said. The guns, a civilian version of the military M-16, are illegal in Connecticut. They also recovered bomb-making manuals and volumes of hate literature, police said.

"It's an ongoing investigation," said state police Lt. Robert Kiehm, the commanding officer of the Special Licensing and Firearms unit, which spearheaded the investigation. "We went in looking for assault rifles. During the search, we were able to find several."

The grenades were an unexpected discovery, authorities said.

"The ATF (Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms) and bomb squad are trying to make a determination if they are dummy grenades or active," Kiehm said.

The search shocked the quiet, wooded neighborhood of trimmed lawns and well-kept homes.

State and New Haven police arrested Charles Cornelius according to New Haven Sgt. Steve Shea.

Cornelius was charged with four counts of illegal possession of an assault weapon by the state police. He also was arrested on a New Haven warrant, Shea said. Both the state and city warrants were ordered sealed by a Superior Court judge, and details of the allegations were not immediately available.

Kiehm and Shea would detail how the investigation unfolded or how they first learned of the weapons.

Kiehm would only state that warrants were the result of a six-month investigation into Cornelius. Despite the hate literature and heavy firepower, police said they found no evidence Cornelius was planning an attack on a specific institution or person.

"Hopefully, we've gotten here before that," Kiehm said.

The Cornelius home is at the corner of Forest and Cleveland roads near Hopkins School in an upscale section of Westville.

Cornelius lived there with his parents.

His father, Eugene Cornelius, is an associate professor at the Yale School of Medicine. A neighbor said he recently retired.

Charles Cornelius attended Hopkins from 1982 to 1987, but didn't graduate, school officials said.

Police said Cornelius' parents apparently were unaware of the weapons in their home.

In addition to New Haven and state police, agents from the ATF and FBI were on the scene.

The investigators combed through the house and emptied the contents of the two-car garage into the driveway, leaving a tarp-covered Porsche parked inside.

Investigators spent hours cataloging the evidence in the driveway. They toted out five metal boxes containing ammunition and shotgun shells. They also found a variety ammunition magazines for assault rifles, a pistol-gripped shotgun and several handguns, Kiehm said.

Among the literature, he said, police found books on how to make bombs and incendiary devices.

In other literature, they found pamphlets denouncing a variety of ethnic and religious groups, including books from white supremacists.

"We found materials relating to the Church of the Creator," Kiehm said.

The Illinois-based group is led by white supremacist Matt Hale, who in March held a rally in Wallingford.

The seized weapons will be sent to the state police lab for test firing and then held as evidence, Kiehm said.

Cornelius was held in lieu of $325,000 bail on the state and local warrants.

Police said more arrests are possible.


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To: from occupied ga
Since the NRA approved gun control act of 1968

Do you have a beef with the NRA?

41 posted on 12/12/2001 3:57:13 AM PST by VA Advogado
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To: ChemistCat
Ha hah. Hah. Umm, we're too broke to afford any really INTERESTING guns. Just thought I'd make that clear.

Can I interest you in some summer sausage? :)

42 posted on 12/12/2001 3:58:35 AM PST by VA Advogado
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To: Sandy
Guess I'd better throw a tarp over the daisy-cutter stored in my garage.
43 posted on 12/12/2001 3:59:12 AM PST by SuperLuminal
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To: Sandy
"Live" ammunition... makes it sound like the ammo is on the verge of exploding or something.

"Live" ammo as well as "Live" guns are capable of action independent of human intervention. This is particularly nasty stuff my friends. The old adage "Guns don't kill..." no longer holds water. The gun grabbers are correct, guns are evil and can, when around "live" ammo, load themselves and commit acts of mayhem. I suggest we all search our arsenals and if any "live" ammo is found call the proper authorities immediately. The ensuing arrest, interrogation and imprisonment is a small price to pay if just one child is saved

44 posted on 12/12/2001 4:15:47 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: D Joyce
"C) This "investigation" was on going for 6 months under a sealed warrant. I have a great aversion to sealed anything, when it comes to government. The PATRIOT Act legitimized the illegal, in my opinion. I'm not a lawyer and I didn't sleep anywhere other than my own bed last night, either. These raids are for intimidation only and they are starting to work.

The investigation seems to pre-date the Patriot Act. I do not like sealed indictments or secret courts either.

45 posted on 12/12/2001 4:30:52 AM PST by Movemout
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To: VA Advogado
Do you have a beef with the NRA?

Many - all based on their policy of preemptive surrender and compromise.

46 posted on 12/12/2001 4:34:17 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: Dan Day
A six month investigation for 4 illegal rifles.
...which are perfectly legal in most states.

This is a state law, so why were BATF and FBI on the scene?

47 posted on 12/12/2001 4:36:51 AM PST by 6ppc
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To: NY.SS-Bar9
"Live" ammo as well as "Live" guns are capable of action independent of human intervention.

Right you are!

I keep my "arsenal" locked in a safe, and store my ammunition in another state. That way, if the guns get out, and try to start something they are impotent.

48 posted on 12/12/2001 4:37:30 AM PST by Comus
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To: one_particular_harbour
This fact, along with the fact that literature from Matt Hale's "church" and white supremacist writings were laying around (probably that cretin Pierce) leads me to think this guy wasn't wrapped real tight.

Ah, the sweaty Matt Hale, the pride of East Peoria, Illinois, he of the cheap brown suit, and his buddy, Ben Smith, who shot a whole bunch of "mud" people in Illinois & Indiana over the 4th of July weekend a few years back--that's what got him the attention of the local and federal constabulatory. Those World Church of the Creator folks are slime.

49 posted on 12/12/2001 4:38:43 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: *bang_list

50 posted on 12/12/2001 4:40:52 AM PST by Joe Brower
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To: .30Carbine
This is it. I voted for Bush. I voted for his Dad and Reagan as well. I am conservative and proud of it. The light switch was just toggled in my head and now I see the light. The only thing Ashcroft is missing is that black trenchcoat and hat the gestapo used to wear. Bush is allowing this to happen. I've said from day one that this media blitzkreig to make cops heros was nothing but a bunch of bull$hit. The Patriot Act completely and irrevocably removes the bill of rights from the Constitution. Bush better make peace with the conservative people of this country and fast if he wants a republican house or senate this upcoming election. This guy will not be reelected. I will support McCain before I support this RINO.
55 posted on 12/12/2001 4:58:29 AM PST by Nimitz
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To: struwwelpeter; Sandy
Compare the sensationalized New Haven coverage of this with the much less propagandized version from The Hartford Courant, by way of the AP:

Assault weapons found in New Haven home

Associated Press

December 11 2001

NEW HAVEN, Conn. -- A New Haven man was arrested Tuesday after a cache of assault weapons and hate literature were found in his home, police said.

Charles Cornelius, 31, was charged with four counts of illegal possession of an assault weapon, police said.

After raiding his Forest Road home Tuesday, police said they found several AR-15 assault weapons, a pistol grip shotgun, hand grenades and hundreds of rounds of ammunition, as well as the hate literature.

Police said the assault weapons are illegal in Connecticut and can only be purchased by military or law enforcement personnel.

Cornelius lived at the home with his parents, who were not charged. Police described the parents as shocked and unaware that weapons were in their home.

The hate literature is connected to Matt Hale's World Church of the Creator, police said. Hale, a white supremacist from Illinois, has staged rallies in Wallingford over the past year.

Cornelius was scheduled to be arraigned Wednesday in New Haven Superior Court.


Clearly the New Haven reporter was a student of Professor Michael Brown's School of Journalism. (Caution: Satire)

Or course, neither article is particularly useful in explaining the state of the law regarding these weapons in CT. Posession of them is legal in CT if the S.U.G.'s(Sport Utility Gun's) were bought before the ban and then registered with the state. Also, the weapons would likely be legal but for having a different name, serial number and/or some cosmetic differences.

Registration leads to confiscation. Every time.


56 posted on 12/12/2001 5:21:02 AM PST by Fixit
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To: Fixit
Oh, and I forgot to mention the funniest part about this. If Cornelius had four M-16's (full auto, not select-fire), then so long as he had properly bought them from a machine gun dealer and paid his transfer tax, he would have been breaking no CT state law.

I guess, for some people anyway, living in the northeast may not be so great after all.

57 posted on 12/12/2001 5:25:30 AM PST by Fixit
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To: Sandy
OK, all you CT and NJ Freepers (and all those with unconstitutional "assault weapon" laws) check out this link to another thread here

Unjust laws can be rendered null and void by a few good people.

59 posted on 12/12/2001 5:30:09 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9
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To: Thornwell Simons
The people who should be in jail are the people who wrote the law that put this man in jail.

Indeed, subversion of rights, whether by terrorism or democracy, is subversion of rights. The pen is mightier than the sword and should carry a heavier price. It's time we controled the pens of liberals, not the guns.

60 posted on 12/12/2001 5:34:31 AM PST by lavaroise
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