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Rail: The Case for "Interstate II"
Washington (DC) Highway Transportation Fraternity | May 1999 | Gil Carmichael

Posted on 12/20/2001 8:42:55 AM PST by Publius

People identify me with railroad issues and advocacy. They forget that I came out of the highway lobby. As late as 1987 I was active in promoting a $1.6 billion, 1077-mile, 4-lane highway development program for my home state of Mississippi. During my business career I have owned five auto dealerships and an air charter service. My first involvement at the federal level was in highway safety. President Nixon named me to the National Highway Safety Advisory Committee. In 1975 President Ford appointed me to the National Transportation Policy Study Commission which was chaired by Bud Shuster. I led the subcommittee on advanced technology.

I went into this process a strong believer in highway transportation. After three years I was transformed into a believer in inter-modal transportation. Those sentiments were confirmed by my later work as Federal Railroad Administrator under President Bush, which also brought me into contact with leaders in aviation and transit. My comments reflect nearly thirty years of hands-on experience.

The Interstate Highway Program

Forty years ago America embarked upon the Interstate Highway System. We built 46,000 miles of multi-lane routes without stoplights or grade crossings. It was a grand achievement. But if you think about it, the interstate system was not designed for high-speed travel. In most states the top speed limits are only five miles an hour above those posted on the conventional numbered roadways of the 1950’s. The great benefit of the interstates was that we increased capacity by a large factor, and avoided the stoplights, traffic jams, and slow-downs that held average speeds to 50 miles an hour or less.

The interstate system had dramatic impacts upon mobility, economic growth and transportation efficiency. But its development created problems that we did not consider important at that time. Some urban areas experienced economic growth, which was spurred by their access to modern highway corridors. Others confronted more disruptive consequences. Urban interstates also became commuter routes, which fragmented downtowns and helped spread residential and commercial development to widely scattered suburbs. Many city centers were devastated, and many small towns withered as the new routes chose green-field rights-of-way.

Few people worried about air pollution in the 1950’s. In one respect our air had become cleaner because Americans of that era had switched from coal furnaces and coal-fired industrial boilers to cleaner units which used natural gas or electricity. Meanwhile, our modern highways stimulated the explosion of personal transportation by automobile, instead of public transportation by transit or rail. By the 1970’s, vehicle emissions represented the primary source of urban pollutants.

For a time, Detroit built smaller cars, but the growth in overall numbers of trucks and automobiles soon offset the pollution savings. Local governments chose to pursue industrial polluters instead of confronting the tricky problem of restricting autos and trucks. The result was to drive manufacturing out of urban counties.

Today, commuters coming to the city to work in service industries pass outbound commuters headed for factories, which have relocated to the urban fringe. City governments are losing the battle against air pollution, and have resorted to such strategies as urging residents not to run their lawn mowers on high-ozone days or avoid fueling their autos until after dark. Yet most large cities will flunk the new EPA air-quality standards.

Interstates are regarded as safer than conventional highways, but higher vehicle counts, rush-hour traffic jams, and rising driver frustration are degrading the safety performance. Highway fatalities remain at an unacceptable 40,000+ per year. We would not tolerate this situation in air or rail service.

The Problem of Congestion and "Externalities"

Only in recent years have transportation engineers and analysts begun to focus on these impacts. They commonly are referred to as "externalities" -- the costs of pollution, energy waste, land disruption, accidents and time wasted in traffic jams. These costs sometimes are hidden, but they are real. More to the point, highway user fees do not cover them. A study conducted for the American Trucking Association concluded that the trucking industry alone was responsible for $30 billion in annual costs which exceed the user fees it pays. Those costs have been transferred to the general taxpayer and to the consumer in the form of higher prices. And that's only part of the true cost of these external impacts.

Right now, our highway and airway-based passenger system is ailing. Highway and airport gridlock is getting worse, and we have found that we cannot afford to build our way out of this gridlock. Hundred-million-dollar interchanges only move traffic jams to new locations. Highway engineers now recognize in most cases that adding lanes to urban interstates won't solve the problem. Congestion is worse. Rush hour in Chicago now covers eight hours per day. Average speeds in big-city downtowns are slower than they were 100 years ago, and the true cost of operating a new automobile is in the 40-cents-a-mile range and rising. It's currently about $6,000 a year. That works out to 500 after-tax dollars per month to move you an average of 1,200 miles a month. That's pretty expensive to move your body in your car 15,000 miles a year.

Aviation's ability to expand is on a par with the problem of legroom in its passenger seats. The cabin can be reconfigured to add an inch or two, but that's about all. Load factors are at record levels. Passengers are furious over delays and overcrowding. With Herculean effort we are able to add an airport like Denver International once every 20 years. Alternatives such as VTOL aircraft have stalled out. Airport managers' visions now are limited to their existing property boundaries. A few airport commissions, like those in New Orleans and Miami, are trying to bring high-speed rail to their terminal escalators, but most airports are not.

It has become clear that we cannot solve our transportation needs of the 21st Century just by adding ever-more-costly highway lanes. This approach simply is not sustainable. When I use the term "sustainable", I intend it to mean a system that we can afford to build, and a system whose adverse impacts upon safety, land use, energy consumption and air quality are held to acceptable limits.

The Global, High-Speed Inter-modal System

As I thought about how to overcome these challenges, I was drawn to our recent experience in inter-modal transportation. What has taken place during the past 20 years is nothing short of revolutionary. Inter-modal transportation has become the global standard for moving freight -- using a system, which is sharply focused on speed, safety, reliable scheduling and economic efficiency. Today, that network emphasizes moving freight in North America and passengers in Europe and Asia. It is beginning to include passenger service in the United States.

The global high-speed inter-modal freight system builds on the strengths of each mode that have become partners in offering service. It also makes use of the versatility of the cargo container. Cargo ships and airplanes span the oceans. The freight railroad is the high-speed, long-distance transportation artery on the land. The truck provides local feeder service at origins and destinations. Cargo airplanes deliver high-value specialized freight. This system works -- but it urgently needs dramatic improvements to its land component in order to handle growing volumes of containers delivered by ship and airplane.

Modern, high-efficiency, high-capacity inter-modal terminals are key to the system, providing almost seamless interchange. Secondary rail and highway routes support the inter-modal system and connect cities, rural regions and individual freight customers to the main-line corridors. Today, a double-stack train leaving a coastal port can replace 280 trucks, run at speeds up to 90 miles an hour on the western railroads and afford as much as nine times the fuel efficiency of container transport by highway. Overall, the operational and economic efficiency of freight's inter-modal network conserves fuel, reduces other environmental impacts and is significantly safer. It represents the most economically and environmentally "sustainable" approach to transportation services.

Meanwhile, this new inter-modal science is redrawing the railroad map of North America, linking the populations and economies of the United States, Canada, and Mexico in a true "North American Rail System." Our continental network serves 90 states and provinces with 240,000 miles of routes and almost 400 million people. Most of its main lines are in excellent shape.

Over $60 billion in private funds has been spent for upgrading to heavy-duty welded rail. Another key point is this -- customers are driving the inter-modal freight network. North American customers suffer when it comes to moving people. Passengers take what the modes have to offer, shuffle between terminals, wait at the curb for the hourly bus downtown, or head for the latest addition to the airport parking garage, where we fork over above-market rates for the "privilege" of being an airline customer. Or we find ourselves at the mercy of higher rental car prices.

One could make the case that the worst defect of our passenger transportation system is the limited number of choices it offers. Residents of cities under 100,000 population often have only one practical option for inter-city travel -- the private automobile. Where bus and Amtrak service exist, the frequencies often are insufficient to meet the customer's needs. Airlines have retreated from short-haul markets. Where air service remains, the fare levels have driven people back to their automobiles.

It's Time for "Interstate II”

It seems to me that our success in freight inter-modal points the way to the most promising strategy for transportation improvements in the years ahead. I call it "Interstate II." It is a new vision of truly high-speed inter-city travel that is based upon steel, not pavement. The concept is not radical. It combines the proven efficiency of rail transportation with the strengths of the inter-modal system. Interstate II can take advantage of rights-of-way that already exist -- both rail and highways.

Interstate II already is under way. The New York-Washington Northeast Corridor has been in place since the 1970’s. [Publius note: Actually since 1910.] High-speed trains will serve Boston later this year. Turbo-trains now operate on the Empire Corridor in New York State. Washington, Oregon and British Columbia are developing a high-speed route in the Pacific Northwest. Eight years ago Congress authorized five new high-speed rail corridors. Today, with the TEA-21 Act, thirteen have been approved for development. When Congress voted $2.3 billion in capital funds for Amtrak, it sent a message that inter-city rail passenger service is here to stay. It is interesting to note that Amtrak's package express business is booming, because express companies cannot expand if they are limited to clogged highways. Interstate II will attract mail and package express business away from highways and airways, adding to the new system's revenues, and helping to share the increased traffic loads that the other modes confront.

The evolution of Interstate II reminds me of the conditions that prevailed during the decade prior to our construction of the first interstate routes. The old two-lane roads were not adequate for traffic volumes. Several states took the lead in building toll roads -- Pennsylvania, New Jersey, New York, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Kansas and Oklahoma. Important segments of "Interstate I" already were in operation before Congress voted to launch that project.

The same thing is happening in the 1990’s. These state and regional initiatives represent the beginning of a network of high-speed rail lines. Many of them will parallel interstate highways. During the first quarter of the 21st Century, I believe that we can build about 20,000 miles of corridors capable of running trains at 90 to 150 miles per hour. As much as another 10,000 miles of high-quality conventional rail routings will augment that network.

Often, we will be able to use the same right of way that freight railroad now occupy, if we deal with a number of key issues, including grade separation and liability. An important element of Interstate II is the requirement to eliminate at-grade highway-rail crossings. Many of them can be closed, because they are unnecessary. Others will require separation. The remainder can be fitted with high-tech crossing devices. We cannot have efficient rail corridors, conventional or high-speed, if trains encounter grade crossings every mile in the country and every block in town. Some people will shy away from the crossing-closure issue as too controversial. But think back to the 1950’s. We closed tens of thousands of road intersections when the Interstate highways were built.

For Interstate II to function properly, we also must create terminals to transfer passengers and freight among modes and routes. Fast, modern and highly efficient inter-modal terminals and yards are essential to freight's inter-modal system, providing "seamless" service. Get off an airplane at Dulles or Denver airports and you are reminded that seamless service hasn’t arrived. The seams are ripped apart just on the other side of the baggage claim.

Another important element of Interstate II will be the city center terminal. The city center terminal serves the inter-modal passenger network. It also serves cities both large and small and helps to revitalize the downtown. These facilities should be developed by local governments, just as they built and financed airports. City center terminals can be hubs for people and retailing. In larger cities they can provide a financial contribution to the overall corridor development project.

Amtrak will have a key role in the inter-city passenger component of Interstate II. But we need to start thinking about Amtrak in a more realistic context. Amtrak should be in the business of moving people inter-modally, in partnership with inter-city bus companies and local transit, but not owning track or terminals. Amtrak should operate and be treated like an airline. Airlines don't build airports. They don't carry those debt costs on their books. If airlines had been compelled to finance airports, they would not have had the capability to undertake the remarkable expansion of fleets and service that has occurred during the past forty years. What's fair for airlines ought to be fair for Amtrak, which today is burdened with aging station facilities that in many cases are an embarrassment, which discourages use.

Interstate II is Affordable

I also favor Interstate II because it represents the option we can afford.

For the equivalent of two cents on the motor fuel tax, one penny at the federal level and a second penny from the states, America could have within twenty years' time a network of high-speed rail corridors that approaches the scale of the Interstate Highway system. That commitment of fuel tax dollars would offer a powerful incentive to additional private investment as well. States and cities should be partners in the process, bringing additional revenues to the table. Again, we are talking about the equivalent of one cent on each state's motor fuel tax. Some people will argue that motor fuel taxes should only go to highway projects. But highway construction is not solving the gridlock problem. More important, the existing level of highway user fees doesn't even come close to covering the costs that highway transportation now inflicts upon our economy and society. More to the point, it is not building the system we need, one that captures the safety and capacity of the 21st Century inter-modal passenger and freight network. Cities, towns, counties and citizens already are paying for that funding gap in many indirect ways. Law enforcement costs. Emergency services costs. Land lost to highway rights-of-way that goes off the tax rolls. Pollution rules that drive industrial jobs out of urban counties despite the fact that most of the emissions are highway-related.

Aside from the obvious benefits from Interstate II, I favor it because there are no alternatives. If trends of the 1980’s and 1990’s persist into the new century -- and there is no reason to believe that they will not -- conventional solutions based upon individual modes simply cannot cope with the growth. Does anyone here seriously believe that we can double the capacity of our urban highway system within the next 15 years? The price tag for just a 10 percent increase would be staggering. And does anyone think that we will add eight or nine airports on the scale of Denver International? I would be surprised if we completed even one of them.

We are long overdue in coming to grips with the huge costs of trying to make the highways and airways solve all of our transportation needs, especially since there are efficient alternatives. It is our job to convince the American people and their opinion leaders that Interstate II is possible and is the obvious solution to our mobility needs for a new century. Rail corridors will prove to be cheaper than hundred-million-dollar interchanges that only relocate traffic jams. They will be safer than 43,000 deaths per year on America’s roadways.

This new ethical inter-modal transportation system will conserve fuel, reduce pollution and be less disruptive in using land. And just as America's toll roads used private money to finance construction, Interstate II can attract major private investment cost sharing. Private money can be applied to construction, operations, station development and equipment -- especially modern passenger, mail-and-express train-sets.

How many times have you heard people ask, "Why can't we have trains like those in Europe?" The answer is, We can. It's a question of priorities, strategy, partnerships, leadership and policy. We need to explain to the people of America that they can have a customer-driven passenger system. They can have choice within that system, and it doesn't have to cost 40 cents a mile to get anywhere. Americans also can obtain an even more efficient, low-cost freight and express network that will reap even more benefits through its inter-modal design. Americans can have interstates of steel for less cost than interstates of concrete and asphalt. And Interstate II will provide plenty of work for the traditional highway-builders.

Building this very safe, 20,000-mile, grade-separated, high-speed inter-city rail network is the key to the quality of transportation services during the next century. The money is there to do the job. The "road gang's" next goal should be to build it. It is up to you. I believe that the concept makes sense. I hope that you will agree.


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To: cicero's_son
As for people living like "rats in a warren," I have no idea what you're talking about.

Oh, I was referring to the "modern" urban growth programs that restrict development through regional zoning laws which require high density, small-size housing, prohibit switching land from agricultural or industrial use to housing, discriminate against cars and new roads, mandate access to light rail service where available, etc. as explemplified by Portland, Oregon's Metro Planning Program.
161 posted on 12/20/2001 12:41:35 PM PST by balrog666
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To: Alberta's Child
These railroads became profitable after 1980 because one of the benefits of deregulation was that these railroads could eliminate their passenger service!

But the railroads eliminated their passenger service in 1971, handing it to the fedgov via Amtrak. The Staggers Act of 1980 permitted the railroads to run their trains and set their own rates without ICC interference, and that was what made the difference.

162 posted on 12/20/2001 12:43:11 PM PST by Publius
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To: discostu
Whenever I talk with a real "car fanatic," I feel like I'm pissing in the wind. They admit no failures in this particular piece of technology.

If you honestly think that cars are flawless, that America's small towns haven't suffered in any way from sprawl and stip-mallization, and that American economic development necessitated mass urbanization of the precise form we see today, what can I say?

163 posted on 12/20/2001 12:43:31 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: cicero's_son
It is now a blighted wasteland of abandoned strip malls and empty parking lots.

And probably a bankrupt developer, too. At least the land can be redeveloped with a better use in place -- imagine if there was a closed-down oil refinery there instead.

It's interesting to note that farmland is always prized by developers because it is the most economical for building. The ground is relatively flat, and the trees have already been cleared. It's almost as if the "natural" progression of development is from farmland to suburb.

I wish I could be more optimistic, but developers are going to keep building dull suburbs until the day people decide they don't want to live and shop there.

164 posted on 12/20/2001 12:43:38 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Publius
Detroit did not evolve into a car city naturally.

What? Was it un-natural? Supernatural? Maybe a conspiracy?
165 posted on 12/20/2001 12:44:06 PM PST by balrog666
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To: Publius
It wasn't METRA. My original contention still stands. No one in their right mind is going to want to spend time in a cramped seat (assuming they can get a seat), rubbing elbows with complete strangers that smell bad. I hate to fly. Flying is fine, but the conditions make it miserable. Since the people that developed the airlines have the same mindset as those that are trying to foist yet another government entity on the taxpayer, I can't see how riding a train will be any less miserable than flying.
166 posted on 12/20/2001 12:44:15 PM PST by TopDog2
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To: balrog666
BREAK THE UNIONS!
END OUR PREDATORY SYSTEM OF TAXATION!
FREE ENTERPRISE WILL RISE AGAIN!

It's too big for a bumper sticker but just the right size for a billboard.

167 posted on 12/20/2001 12:44:58 PM PST by Publius
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To: balrog666
"Oh, I was referring to the "modern" urban growth programs that restrict development through regional zoning laws which require high density, small-size housing, prohibit switching land....."

Great. So long as we're clear that what you were saying had nothing whatsoever to do with the history of America's small towns.

168 posted on 12/20/2001 12:45:27 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: Publius
Increasing capacity on a commuter rail line is "building long", i.e., more and longer trains.

Tell that to people commuting to midtown Manhattan on the Northeast Corridor (the old Pennsy system). They run those damned trains three minutes apart, the trains are packed to the roof, and what used to be a 12-minute ride between Newark and New York now takes 20+ minutes at an average speed of about 30 miles per hour.

They need another cross-Hudson tunnel there, but the cost of building it would probably be the same as the cost of building six lanes of interstate highway from New York to Pittsburgh.

169 posted on 12/20/2001 12:47:41 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Publius
the trucks will run you right off the road.)

Talk about making generalizations!

170 posted on 12/20/2001 12:48:19 PM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: balrog666
According to the federal court system, it was in fact a conspiracy, which was why the courts fined National City Lines for anti-trust violations. (The fine was a paltry $3000.)

So Detroit's conversion to a "car town" had a little help from GM, Mack, Firestone, Union Oil and Phillips Petroleum. Just another day in the American business world. And I'm saying that without sarcasm.

171 posted on 12/20/2001 12:50:51 PM PST by Publius
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To: discostu
If you like driving across the country, try doing it in Canada. There's no such thing as an "interstate" -- the Trans-Canada Highway runs right through every town along the way, with traffic lights and all. That's the best way to REALLY "see" the country!
172 posted on 12/20/2001 12:51:40 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: Alberta's Child
"I wish I could be more optimistic, but developers are going to keep building dull suburbs until the day people decide they don't want to live and shop there."

And that will never happen, because at the end of the day, most people really don't give a s**t and the developers know it. Same thing with car designers. I'm just a nostalgic curmudgeon, I guess.

More seriously, your comment above is one reason I'm so enthusiastic about the New Urbanist program. For all of its flaws, I think that it does produce more livable cities. If more developers sign on (and--knock on wood--so far more are signing on every year), the public may actually come to realize that it does have a choice.

173 posted on 12/20/2001 12:52:16 PM PST by cicero's_son
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To: TopDog2
I can't see how riding a train will be any less miserable than flying.

I've done both. After flying, I'm miserable. After a train ride in a wide seat, I feel refreshed. After taking a Cascades train from Seattle to Portland, I'll never fly or drive that route again.

174 posted on 12/20/2001 12:53:11 PM PST by Publius
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To: cicero's_son
Great. So long as we're clear that what you were saying had nothing whatsoever to do with the history of America's small towns.

Nope, I love small towns. It's just that all too often new railways have been sold to the taxpayer as part of urban zoning-controlled growth areas, in effect as a return ticket to the tenement style living of the inner cities of the 1890's-1950's, i.e. pre-suburbs. Yecch!
175 posted on 12/20/2001 12:53:18 PM PST by balrog666
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To: Publius
Prospect A) Drive to a parking lot and get on a bus to go to the train or get right on the train. Take train to stop near destination. Get on another bus and take it close to final destination. Walk to final destination. Then do it all over again backwards to get home. Talk about easy, convienent, and efficient. The 3 things big train supporters claim trains are, and clearly they are not.

Prospect B) Get in car, drive to work.

I will take B.

Now, if I lived in NYC i probably would not even own a car. You dont need one. But when you dont live in a big city you do need one.

176 posted on 12/20/2001 12:53:31 PM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Publius
My apologies -- I thought Conrail ran passenger service (commuter trains, in particular) in parts of the Northeast until 1983. That was the year NJ TRANSIT was created, and I thought they basically took over Conrail's operations.
177 posted on 12/20/2001 12:53:40 PM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: cicero's_son
Who said anything about cars being flawless?! I've got an interesting idea. How about instead of categorizing me based on one or two sentences you actually read what I wrote. Cars have problems, everybody knows that, but trains aren't the answer. If trains were the answer to the problems of cars we would never have invented cars in the first place.

Oh, and if you're going to try to tell me something I know for a fact because I've lived in and near small town America is utter BS about how the rails made small towns and the car is destroying them, then yes you are pissing in the wind. That's what happens when you're full of it and trying to sell misconceptions as gospel. You can order a book from the AZ Tourism info people that shows you how to get to various ghost town scatter through out AZ. If you get that book and maybe take a couple of those trips you'll find something very quickly: the road goes to these places but in most cases the rail doesn't. Keep that in mind when trying to blame all of the evils of the world on the car, somethings just aren't the car's fault.

178 posted on 12/20/2001 12:53:47 PM PST by discostu
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To: Publius
Wrong! Private enterprise made money in mass transportation until the Depression.

Private enterprise made a lot of money producing buggys and buggy whips too. Not much of a market for those today though.

179 posted on 12/20/2001 12:54:59 PM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: balrog666
So are you a fan of current zoning laws, as mandated by the federal government? The ones that have shaped cities like Detroit, San Jose, Houston, Dallas, and Phoenix?
180 posted on 12/20/2001 12:57:01 PM PST by cicero's_son
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