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Fascinating how the original poster equates "black conservatism" with a willingness to repudiate "civil rights", i.e. his own people's struggle for justice. So obviously aside from the most profoundly self-hating there will never be any number of what he would define as "black conservatives".

Only by demonstrating a committment to work within and on behalf of the black community instead of as token mouthpieces of it's perceived enemies, will Black Republicans develop some kind of authentic political base and lower the barrier of distrust.

Please elaborate on this alleged "self-hate." I've read and reread, and I have no idea where you got this idea.

Go back to DU you piece of demo-trash.

Fascinating how the original poster equates "black conservatism" with a willingness to repudiate "civil rights", i.e. his own people's struggle for justice. So obviously aside from the most profoundly self-hating there will never be any number of what he would define as "black conservatives".

You can read the post that way, but I think it misses the intent of the poster. I would chalk it up to bad phrasing, however. I believe his (her?), intent was to repudiate the civil rights movement for the way in which it has been corrupted and diverted from its original, legitimate aims.

Originally, by the way, blacks were a staunch Republican voting bloc, which is one of the reasons why they were so thoroughly disenfranchised in areas under Democrat control. It wasn't until the Great Depression that blacks became a Democrat bloc.

Only by demonstrating a committment to work within and on behalf of the black community instead of as token mouthpieces of it's perceived enemies, will Black Republicans develop some kind of authentic political base and lower the barrier of distrust.

So what exactly do you consider "working in and on behalf of the black community"? That to me still sounds like a demoncrat view since it paints blacks(and other minorities) as hapless victims who need saving. The black conservatives I have had the pleasure of dealing with have been outspoken, bright, and clear about thier positions on things. I think it's the "black community" that has thier ears closed and writes off thier conservative blacks as some kind of traitors. The sad thing is the people I know in the "black community" are probably more conservative on issues than many whites I know, yet they play traitor to thier own values by voting for the democratic party.

I moved cross country recently, leaving a close black friend behind. She was staunchly anti republican and conservative supposedly, but yet she was a homeschooler, strict Christian, hard working, etc. Yet she voted for a party(democrats) that would seek to restrict and even try to ban her right to educate her own children and who mock her strict religious values and her Savior incessantly. She voted out of some sense that this is how she was supposed to vote. I wish a mass reeducation would happen in this vibrant community who really deserve much better than the democrats have to offer.

Only by demonstrating a committment to work within and on behalf of the black community instead of as token mouthpieces of it's perceived enemies,

LOL... so in other words... they are only effective if they focus SOLELY on black issues. LOL!

Sorry, Leftist racism is NOT what conservative blacks need!

Sorry, allow me to clarify what I meant.

The quotation marks around "civil rights" were intentional.

I was NOT equating the repudiation of civil rights with acceptance of conservatism. What I was talking about the hypothetical person repudiating was not what the civil rights movement WAS, but what it has BECOME

I believe most people who believe in my brand of conservatism are whole heartedly in favor of what the civil rights movement was. The civil rights movement was created with the goal of uplifting a race of people that had been held down both institutionally (direct government sanction) and by the tremendous cultural damage that slavery inflicted on this race.

I believe the civil rights movement now is an effectively hijacked movement with the goal of continuing and subsidizing the cultural legacy of slavery (destruction of the nuclear family), and it encourages all deflection of personal responsiblility to the convenient white racist bogey man racist for the expressed purpose of keeping black down so they will make better mascots for the left to continue demonstrating their "compassion".

But nice try at putting words in my mouth. I hope this clarifies what I said, and any offense you took to my post was certainly not intentional.

I think the point to be made with regards to "civil rights" where liberal blacks are concerned is this; that many in the black community cloak themselves in "civil rights" issues for the purpose of lining their pockets with the booty of white guilt.

Prime exhibit: Jesse Jackson, no Reverend he, is king of the hill in shake-down artistry and in the name of “civil rights”. How can anyone defend against a case of accused, and therefore perceived, racism? For in doing so one must fight the racist labeling by denouncing the accuser as fraudulent, which on its face may be perceived by those doing the accusing as racist. It’s a no win proposition for the accused, therefore propelling the accused to surrender a portion of his wealth willingly or be forced to go to court to have it all ripped away.

It’s akin to the story of the boy who cried, “wolf” one too many times. When many in the white community hear black liberals crying “civil rights” violations, they have less and less sympathy for the real Civil Rights concerns. We all know the story of Denny’s and just recently we heard that Cracker Barrel was going to be sued for dissing black patrons. Of course they are racist, their name is racist, every one knows that “Cracker” stands for white folks only. So, every time one of these things goes down, the credibility of any real Civil Rights concerns is diminished, particularly in the white community.