PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH TO ADDRESS THE NATION FROM CALIFORNIA @ 12:50 ET

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[Exnihilo]

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH TO ADDRESS NATION FROM CALIFORNIA @ 12:50 ET, click the source to watch live.

He's expected to counter Sen. Tom Daschle's remarks.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Did you seen him address the fine folks of california in spanish.

Oh yes, it was great. And I am sure that this will make all the fine folks in California feel great, knowing the President Bush has us in his thoughts. I love the way he demonstrated his concern and reassurance towards Californians in the face of this monumental massive criminal illegal alien invasion, by speaking Spanish to the people of California. Well done, bravo.

Keep up the good work President Bush.

[Zon]

VA Advogado: Did you seen him address the fine folks of california in spanish. Gotta love Dubyah, although I know that's just gotta grate on some here to see our US President in California, in front of the presidential seal, speaking español.

It irritates me. I know he is dedicated to kissing illegal alien butt, but somebody needs to remind him that California is STILL a part of the USA, and we speak English here.

Bush is a shrewd political speaker. He knows that the democrats gain the hearts minds and ears of the Hispanic Community. Bush is winning them over by speaking directly to them.

shrewd: Marked by practical hardheaded intelligence

[eskimo]

NOT OVER MY DEAD BODY WILL THEY RAISE YOUR TAXES!

That's a strang sentence. Are you sure the NOT was in there?

Sort of sound equivalent to "don't read my lips".

[CA Conservative]

Are you an idiot by choice, or by birth?

If you bothered to actually listen to the President, you would have heard him say that the first thing he thought was that it was pilot error when the first plane hit... It was when the second plane hit that he realized we were at war.

[Zon]

Uh, in your case, try self appointed. No offense but there's a big difference between you and the other gentlemen you mentioned.

Not really, Jim And W. took upon themselves to do it their way. The biggest difference that I see is that I will not advocate or support the initiation of force, fraud or coercion against any person.

The best way to ensure that individual rights are protected is to have a constitution or law and courts based on the following:

Principle One: No person, group of persons, or government may initiate force, threat of force, or fraud against any individual.

Principle Two: Force may be morally and legally used only in self-defense against those who violate Principle One.

Principle Three: No exceptions shall be allowed for Principle One and Two.  

Principle One is first a law. For every instance that a person has force initiated against them there is a loss to that person. Only the person/victim knows the true value of their loss. The law underlying Principle One is as true as physics law.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Bush is a shrewd political speaker. He knows that the democrats gain the hearts minds and ears of the Hispanic Community. Bush is winning them over by speaking directly to them.

Winning over the millions of illegal aliens? Or are you referring to the millions of hateful supporters of the Loretta Sanchez varity etc? Do you really believe President Bush is going to "win" these people over? No offense but this is not going to happen. EVER. Are you from California? Just curious.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

Don't you know you confuse these folks with the truth. It's very foreign to them and difficult to understand. Besides anyone foolish enough to choose a screen name ending in "hole" probably also has a number of them in his or her head.

[Southflanknorthpawsis]

I am beginning to think Rumsfeld has been holding workshops!

LOL........I hope you're right. I missed this airing so I hope I can catch it later.

[Zon]

Winning over the millions of illegal aliens? Or are you referring to the millions of hateful supporters of the Loretta Sanchez varity etc? Do you really believe President Bush is going to "win" these people over? No offense but this is not going to happen. EVER. Are you from California? Just curious.

Not from California. Perhaps "winning them over" was a bit much. But neutralizing them from the democrats is a victory against democrats. So you have a problem with more people gravitating towards bush and republicans? Just curious?

[doug from upland]

Here's the thread --- DFU TALKS TO THE PRESIDENT AND SENDS DASCHLE TO HIS ROOM

[dixiechick2000]

It wasn't in the body of the article. It was in a sidebar, so you didn't miss it.;o)

[DugwayDuke]

"I believe there is a spiritual shield that protects the country."

I'm reluctant to read much into this since I missed the address but if Bush said this, then it must be taken in context of the recent revelations that the democrats intend to demonize right-wing Christians as American Taliban. You'll remember that Rev Falwell made his highly criticized comments shortly after 9-11 that said in effect that God could withdraw his shield that protects this country. One can only wonder if the similarity in wording is GWs way of saying to the dems that if you wish to attack these folks then come on. I also note in passing that Bush did not back away from the religious right when criticized for going to Bob Jones U.

[katykelly]

Tony Snow and Charles Krauthiemer mentioned that slip-up :-)

You know what he meant:-)

[Joe Hadenuf]

Not from California. Perhaps "winning them over" was a bit much. But neutralizing them from the democrats is a victory against democrats

Oh, so he is not trying to "win" them over but he is attempting to neutralize them? Again, no offense but you are living in a political fantasyland. You think by speaking Spanish to millions of illegal aliens and Loretta Sanchez types is going to Nuetralize them? This will do nothing but alienate and distance Mr. Bush from the millions of citizens that are on the political right here in California. This is what he just did! Trust me.

Your are obviously not from California. I don't know where you are from but you seem rather disconnected from what is *really* going on here in California.

[VRWC_minion]

khephra (9611 posts)	Jan-05-02, 02:45 PM (ET)
1. "That line had to be Bush's"
Because no one else in his staff would be so stupid as to say something that draws such obvious comparisons to his father's failure as a President OR that would set Jr. up for the same failure. That was SUCH a bad choice of words. Words, meet ass. Now bite hard. "Americans have different ways of saying things. They say "elevator", we say "lift" ... they say "President", we say "stupid psychopathic git." Alexai Sayle.
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0007 (835 posts)	Jan-05-02, 03:10 PM (ET) Reply to post #1
10. "One major goof"
will lead to many more. Just keep parading this mentally deficient reject out daily in organized public procession and on ceremonial occasions and it won't be long before the whole world is laughing at him. What a joke!
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DisgustipatedinCA (50 posts)	Jan-05-02, 02:45 PM (ET)
2. "January 5, 2002"
Burn that date into your memory. The day Bush finally followed in his idiot dad's footsteps with a vow of no new taxes. The position already is, and will become even more indefensible over time. Nimrod's about to get chewed up in the big league.
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booley (169 posts)	Jan-05-02, 02:52 PM (ET) Reply to post #2
5. "Actually, it sounds more like a fruedian slip..."
look again at what he is saying... "Not over my dead body will they raise your taxes!" NOT over his dead body, he's basicly saying he wouldn't kill himself over stopping new taxes. And once the effects of the last spate of tac cuts become obviouse, you can be sure they'll have to aise a few taxes to ty to fix the mess they made.
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norm (1 posts)	Jan-05-02, 03:00 PM (ET) Reply to post #5
7. "I was just going to comment..."
on that. The great pretender can't even speak in platitudes without messing them up. IMHO, this kind of mistake tends to be made by people who never read anything more challenging than the TV Guide.
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CollegeDude (656 posts)	Jan-05-02, 02:49 PM (ET)
3. "Open mouth, insert foot"
For all of the stupidity most of us have pegged for our man Dubya, I really don't think any of us would expect a blunder this bad. Hopefully someone at the DNC grabbed that sound byte and will prepare to shove it repeatedly up his arse come 2004. Democrats taking back Congress in this year's elections are even more significant now. If we can get Congress back and force some sort of bill like this on Dubya, he's either got to break his word or veto it and show that he's a corporate whore. -CollegeDude Donated fifty feet of rope to Dubya's 04 campaign
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NeeChee (49 posts)	Jan-05-02, 03:14 PM (ET) Reply to post #3
11. "haha"
Daschle is a smart man. He said exactly the right thing at exactly the right time. He never said anything about raising taxes, assuming that the republicans would go ape shit and say all sorts of reactionary garbage. Now Karen “sit ‘n spin” Hughes is doing her best to weave “hidden agendas” into a speech that clearly elucidates the folly of Bush’s economic policy. I’m going to fax Tom a thank you note on Monday, it’s great that a Democrat is actually going to dig in his heels and fight the fascist revolution. He’s setting a good example for others to follow. We all need to make sure that this administration goes down in history for what it really is, the most corrupt American regime ever! “FIGHT TILL YOU DIE!” ~ NeeChee George W. Bush Jr. - The Diet Coke of Evil Tinky Winky. He's the one. Don't believe his lies.
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khephra (9611 posts)	Jan-05-02, 03:17 PM (ET) Reply to post #11
12. "neat Cthulhu"
I'll have to put up my Cthulhu for President sig again someday. "Americans have different ways of saying things. They say "elevator", we say "lift" ... they say "President", we say "stupid psychopathic git." Alexai Sayle.
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KeepHopeAlive (463 posts)	Jan-05-02, 02:51 PM (ET)
4. "Just sitting here smiling"
This is good news. I'll bet that was his own little off-the-script slip.
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Walt Starr (528 posts)	Jan-05-02, 02:56 PM (ET)
6. "He's moved to the corner"
Now we have to keep him on the ropes. New taxes must be put in place in 2003 to pay for the war. He's lost it big time. EVERY DUMBYA FISCAL PROPOSAL IS: Enronomics!!!
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CollegeDude (656 posts)	Jan-05-02, 03:03 PM (ET)
8. "Something else just hit me"
I just read the article again and thought of something else about this. The article proclaims that he was talking to California workers, and it was to them he uttered the line that will become infamous here on DU, and probably is already. I don't suppose the media will point out that Democrats are not at all trying to raise *their* taxes, in the context of low-level workers, whom Dubya was addressing. Check out another thing he said - "This economic debate is troubling me". If that's not saying that he doesn't encourage debate, I don't know what does. I mean, we all knew it already, but that's pretty blatant. The Freudian slip aspect of the Read My Lips II is also curious, and it makes me wonder if this was off-the-cuff or not. Either he worded it that way on purpose, or his stupidity just gave him a lucky break and the way he phrased it gave him deniability. -CollegeDude The world may never know
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kentuck (3682 posts)	Jan-05-02, 03:04 PM (ET)
9. ""Not over my dead body..." ??"
Does that mean he is open to a tax increase or over-ride of the ill-conceived corporate give-away of last year? Perhaps we need to get that clarified?? Buddha: "All that we are is the result of what we have thought."
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Sagan (586 posts)	Jan-05-02, 03:20 PM (ET) Reply to post #9
13. "Trust me..."
Ari, Karl and Karen (can't we get Ari a K name? It would be SO convenient) will clean up the Boy King's verbal muddlings and meanderings for the press, which will then dutifully report it as if it was said by His Majesty on the spot. After all, he's SO clever and filled with "sublime masculinity" as Tweety says. Ugh. I have to take a shower now. "There is one safeguard known generally to the wise, which is an advantage and security to all, but especially to Democracies as against despots: suspicion." -- Demosthenes
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Caliphoto (295 posts)	Jan-05-02, 03:25 PM (ET)
14. "A group of workers?"
Hmmm... wonder how these folks were hand-picked this time? Or are they lobbyists DRESSED as workers as usual?? Phoney town hall meetings, lobbyists in costume, we didn't elect Bush, we elected Barnum & Bailey. What a circus! I will never, ever forget this slip-up. You know it wasn't scripted.. he just gets soooo stirred up when people clap for him (he forgets they're planted there for just that purpose), that he goes all googly inside and starts yelling stupid things. I see it in his face! Like a little kid telling a joke to a group.. the more they laugh.. the more the kid adds. Pity this pResident believes his own PR. Duh.
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coralsea (2492 posts)	Jan-05-02, 03:29 PM (ET)
15. "Not over my dead body will they raise your taxes!"
Awfully nice of him.... it sounds like he's giving us a choice... ---------------------------------------- Today's GOP: Busy building that Bridge to the 16th Century. "Liberals are fearless, confident of humanity, outgoing and optimistic, because they believe most people are pretty much like themselves. Conservatives are fearful, mistrusting, angry, bitter and afraid because they, too, believe most people are pretty much like themselves."
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[RGSpincich]

Thanks alot. Taking my monitor to the car wash.

[Hugh Akston]

You are something else. lol!

[Salvation]

Unbelievable comments. Where did you dig these up?

[VRWC_minion]

Unbelievable comments. Where did you dig these up?

If you must know: href=http://www.democraticunderground.com

But you have to agree to hold me harmless if you click on the link.