Nazis: Socialists and pagans (Liberals deny they were socialists, teach they were Christian!)

FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | December 20, 2001 | J.P. Zmirak

[gg188]

While Adolf Hitler was careful at first to conceal his neo-pagan agenda, his followers were not: Heinrich Himmler created the SS explicitly as a pagan parody of the Society of Jesus, conducted extensive research attempting to rehabilitate medieval witchcraft, and held torchlit liturgies to Odin and other Norse gods. Hitler’s ideologist, Alfred Rosenberg, issued tracts denouncing the Gospels. Josef Goebbels aspired to wipe out "after the last Jew, the last priest." Hitler’s ally, General Erich Ludendorff, called for the abolition of Christianity in Germany. By 1936, Hitler was suppressing Catholic trade unions, movements and schools, and forming amongst Protestants a militaristic "German Christian" church that would sanction the regime’s savage anti-Semitism. Hitler opined to Albert Speer that he wished Germany had been converted to Islam instead of Christianity, the better to suit it to ruthless warfare.

[MissAmericanPie]

Is it quibbling to "Love thy neighbor as thyself"? You can't mug your neighbor, or abuse him in a concentration camp, or hate the apple of his eye the Jews, and convince anyone that you are a Christian. At least you shouldn't be able to convince them, the world is so nutz anymore tho who knows.

[f.Christian]

Nice couple lex luther and dr. doom!

[aristeides]

but the rank and file Nazis, the ones who actually carried out the atrocities, were church-going Christians.

Depends on which Nazis, and which atrocities, you are talking about. No doubt the bulk of the Wehrmacht's atrocities were committed by members of the Christian churches.

However, high-ranking Nazi functionaries and civil servants -- and especially members of the SS -- were under heavy pressure to register as gottgläubig (deist) rather than as belonging to one of the churches. The Germans serving in the concentration and extermination camps were members of the SS, as were the members of the Einsatzgruppen (death squads) that carried out the mass shooting of Jews in the Russian campaign. I doubt if you'll find that many of the SS people in the extermination camps belonged to Christian churches.

[aristeides]

If Lothar Machtan is right that Hitler was a practising homosexual in his youth, he had particular reason to feel alienated from Christianity.

Which reminds me, seems to me I've read some place that Lanz von Liebenfels, who is mentioned prominently in the article, was homosexual. If he met the young Hitler, as the article says he did (and as Lanz himself told people after WWII, which he survived,) I wonder if they had sexual relations. Would explain a heavy influence on Hitler.

[AMMON-CENTRIST]

Nazi style of socialism is way different from classic liberal socialism pushed by Karl Marx.

[Doctor Doom]

Nice couple lex luther and dr. doom!

In deference to my kryptonite bearing compatriot, his name would be Luthor.

[He Rides A White Horse]

Tell it to Torquemada & Co.

I would. What makes you think I would defend them?

[MissAmericanPie]

If you are really interested, maybe you should read the scriptures again with a fresh eye. If you are talking about the tribes that Israel fought to secure the "Promised Land", there seems to be instructions as how to deal with each tribe encountered. In any case sometimes those instructions were not followed to wipe a tribe out, and so we are stuck still fighting them to this very day and this very hour.

I don't consider myself qualified to instruct or admonish God, in any case, as time as proven His judgements are just and right.

[f.Christian]

over... here!