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MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "WHITEWATER" AND ENRON? I HAVE THE ANSWER
dfu | 1-10-02 | dfu

Posted on 01/10/2002 8:23:49 PM PST by doug from upland

The RATS are circling in the waters like sharks. They go to bed every night hoping upon hope that they can do something to destroy the Bush administration.

Do the RATS care about our war effort? Perhaps some of them do. I would say, however, that the great majority of the far leftist hardcore of the RAT party wants Bush to have trouble more than they want the U.S. to defeat terrorism. Hey, that's why we call them the RATS.

We hear the Clinton complicit press jumping all over the Enron case and comparing it to Whitewater. Some have already suggested it is much worse.

It is clear to any good Clintonologist why they think it is worse. They loved Clinton. They hate Bush. They were too lazy or too stupid, or both, to follow what happened in the myriad of scandals called Whitewater. And the Clinton DNA is still dripping down their chins. If they can make Bush look bad, they can make Clinton look better. There is that legacy thing, you know.

Will Enron be a problem for Bush? It will be an irritant as the RATS think it is payback time. They will attempt to smear this president with the same enthusiasm as they tried to protect and defend real Clinton criminal activity.

But the real difference should put some of you at ease. George W. Bush is basically a decent and honest man. Conversely, we learned very early that Bill Clinton was a lying, manipulating, evil, self-serving, piece of human debris.

The first instinct of Bush is to tell the truth. The first instinct of Clinton is to tell a lie.

Clinton, we know, would do anything to be president. In fact, he did. There was nothing out of bounds. Bush did not need the job. His life would be fine without out. Certainly it would be less stressful.

Might they find some wrongdoing? There is a chance, however, I doubt it. Unlike Clinton, Bush has surrounded himself with good people rather than compromised people. Clinton sick-o-fants stayed with him because they were as dishonest as their boss. It started at the top and ran right down the line.

It should give you comfort that a pretty honest and decent man with character is guiding our ship in these troubled waters. Those who did wrongdoing are not going to get a pass in this administration.


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1 posted on 01/10/2002 8:23:49 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
but can they link him to any of this?
2 posted on 01/10/2002 8:29:31 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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To: doug from upland
Plenty of DemoRats dipped their hands in the Enron coffers....if they wanna play with Bush, they can "take their chances and throw the dice" as Jack Nicholson would say...
3 posted on 01/10/2002 8:29:39 PM PST by Frances_Marion
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
We really don't have the facts yet, but I would tend to bet on this president. If there were an insider deal, it was a pretty bad one --- Enron failed.

Maybe the RATS will concentrate on a dead end and damage themselves even more. Hey, this took moronic Tommy Daschel off the front page.

4 posted on 01/10/2002 8:33:19 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
And the Clinton DNA is still dripping down their chins.

EWWWWW!!

I think Enron, like the stem cell research 'issue', is going to be a flash in the pan. Actually, I think the Enron debacle will be more interesting to watch.

I find it hard to believe that the lamestream media is trying to link Enron to the administration...and I'm guilty of it too.

5 posted on 01/10/2002 8:33:29 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
I think Vice-President Cheney takes a few undeserved hits, here.
6 posted on 01/10/2002 8:40:11 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: doug from upland
Clinton helped ENRON....here's the scoop on the poop!

TIME Magazine
SEPTEMBER 1, 1997 VOL. 150 NO. 9 NOTEBOOK

THE SCOOP

THE WHITE HOUSE
THAT INVISIBLE MACK SURE CAN LEAVE HIS MARK

For a man who had supposedly vanished from the corridors of power, MACK MCLARTY was the man to see in 1996. BILL CLINTON's former chief of staff, now a White House counselor tucked away in the basement, provided assistance to businessmen who ponied up $1.5 million for the Democrats in the last election. On Nov. 22, 1995, for example, Clinton scrawled an FYI note to McLarty, enclosing a newspaper article on Enron Corp. and the vicissitudes of its $3 billion power-plant project in India. McLarty then reached out to Enron's chairman, KEN LAY, and over the next nine months closely monitored the project with the U.S. ambassador to New Delhi, keeping Lay informed of the Administration's efforts, according to White House documents reviewed by TIME. In June 1996, four days before India granted final approval to Enron's project, Lay's company gave $100,000 to the President's party. Enron denies that its gift was repayment for Clinton's attention, and White House special counsel LANNY DAVIS says McLarty acted out of concern for a major U.S. investment overseas.

Nevertheless, there does seem to be a McLarty pattern. At Clinton's request, he met with international oil consultant ROGER TAMRAZ and asked the Energy Department if the Administration could not be more supportive of his Caspian Sea pipeline proposal (Tamraz' contribution: $200,000). It was McLarty who directed a White House lawyer to query the Justice Department about a case protested by VANCE OPPERMAN, head of a legal publishing house (contribution: $350,000). The counselor arranged a White House meeting for Miami computer executive MARK JIMENEZ to discuss political unrest in an important Latin American market (contribution: $325,000). And last week the Washington Post reported that McLarty helped get a Clinton audience for Federal Express chairman FRED SMITH and his concerns about Japanese trade practices. Contribution: $525,000. Davis says McLarty acted "appropriately" in every case.

--By Michael Weisskopf/Washington

7 posted on 01/10/2002 8:40:32 PM PST by JulieRNR21
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To: doug from upland
Remember that Enron gave to both parties, in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
8 posted on 01/10/2002 8:40:44 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
"but can they link him to any of this?"

The short answer is "No". Because there was no misbehavior on his part, I am confident.

That will not keep the Dems from trying, however. Or the press from suggesting that there is a link...

In the end, they'll chip a few points off the approval rating. Which is all I suspect they hope to accomplish, anyway.

9 posted on 01/10/2002 8:42:55 PM PST by okie01
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To: Enron_list
Indexing.
10 posted on 01/10/2002 8:44:58 PM PST by Howlin
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To: doug from upland
No majority of Americans really embraces the Democratic slime. But, the Demos know that the majority of the people vote with their wallets. As long as the Repos are (or are painted as) cyphoning off the treasury to their contributors, then Enron will be a Republican bombshell. Hopefully, enough Demos will be caught in the net for folks to see that crooks are drawn to money regardless of party affiliation.
11 posted on 01/10/2002 8:45:28 PM PST by ghostrider
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To: doug from upland
Let's just remember that Whitewater went nowhere and there was some evidence of Klinton's involvement. It's doubtful there's any substantive evidence that links Bush or Cheney to whatever happened. Cheney will probably retire in '04 so if this scandal has legs he could take the blame and step aside. This will be a terrible way for them to attack Bush, but if the dems want to waste their time, more power to them.
12 posted on 01/10/2002 8:47:07 PM PST by Brett66
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To: okie01
I don't know if it will cost him anything. We'll continue to destroy more terrorist cells, have victories overseas, and he will make sure his justice department prosecutes wrongdoers.
13 posted on 01/10/2002 8:47:10 PM PST by doug from upland
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To: doug from upland
From what I've read on other threads......the Clinton administration HELPED ENRON keep their business propped up....doesn't look (up to now) like the Bush Administration did that. Therein lies the rub....ENRON FAILED under the Bush Administration, you democratic imbeciles! Small detail, I know.
14 posted on 01/10/2002 8:52:05 PM PST by goodnesswins
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To: doug from upland
Here is a very interesting look into the history of ENRON,

White House Should Tell All

15 posted on 01/10/2002 8:53:05 PM PST by MJY1288
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To: goodnesswins
Cramer (The Liberal Dem) on CNBC said today on Chrissy mathews show that Bush was working the war when Enron went down. Two of his cabinet members were asked to help Enron weeks before they went down and defended Bush and his people with gusto because they didn't help enron.

The rats have way too much stink in this and pinning it on Bush is not going to happen.

Cramer said he was blasted three years ago for talking down enron and he caught hell from his dem friends--he now says he was right and all this happened under the rats control of the white House !

He also said the rats were nuts for blaming the recession on Bush !

16 posted on 01/10/2002 8:59:30 PM PST by america-rules
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To: doug from upland
There does not seem to be any links between Bush and Enron other than campaign monies. Enron donated to everyone. So big deal. The real money is not there anyway. It's in insider trading. And unless they show Bush or his immediate family made money off such trades this whole thing is moot. And I bet it is.

The Clinton administration has a much more difficult problem with Enron in comparison. They took money from Enron and then used their influence to assist Enron offshore. And even that is not probably not illegal.

The Dems. better drop this Enron stuff. It will go nowhere for them. The outfit that will take the big hit will be the one "Big 5" accounting firm. And they will be bankrupt soon too.

17 posted on 01/10/2002 9:03:04 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: okie01
how does The President deflect this?
18 posted on 01/10/2002 9:11:32 PM PST by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Tell the truth.

And prosecute the criminals.

It's that easy.

19 posted on 01/10/2002 9:14:47 PM PST by okie01
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
how does The President deflect this?

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With the truth.

20 posted on 01/10/2002 9:15:14 PM PST by doug from upland
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