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Calling all Culture Warriors
Continental Congress of Art ^ | 1/16/02 | Antoninus

Posted on 01/16/2002 6:35:14 AM PST by Antoninus

On January 10, 1963, Democrat congressman A. S. Herlong, Jr. of Florida read, with unanimous consent, a list of 'Current Communist Goals' into the Congressional record. This prescient list, taken from a book called "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen, has been posted on Free Republic several times.

Perhaps what's most shocking about this list are the cultural items. Goals that would have been considered absurdities 40 years ago are today eerily real. To review a few of the points on the list:

Now, supposedly communism was dealt a political death-blow in the late 1980's. However, as we all know, the progeny of the original far-left culture warriors have created new bastions within our very own educational, media, entertainment, and cultural institutions. Our political attempts to disconnect these individuals from the government teat have been, on the whole, failures. In the face of these reverses, many social conservative commentators have thrown in the towel, declaring the culture war lost or unwinnable.

I disagree. In order to fight and win a culture war, your side must be able to present a viable alternative. The 'counter-culture' of the 1960s is a classic example of this strategy. With rare exceptions, conservatives, traditionalists, Americanists, and republicans (small R), were not able to respond to this counter-cultural tidal-wave effectively. Thus, the 'counter-culture' of the 1960s has become the dominant culture today. While individual writers or artists of a traditional bent may occasionally rise up and be recognized, they are now at the mercy of the anti-American, anti-family, anti-tradition, anti-religion dominant culture that rules the media, the publishing industry, Hollywood, and the art scene.

But with the advent of the Internet, we now have a way to circumvent completely the apparatus of the cultural elites. A single individual with an idea now has the capacity to reach most of the country and indeed the world with his or her message. As we all know, Free Republic has demonstrated this capability to an amazing degree. This single site and its army of Freepers has the ability to shape debate, cow or encourage the media and petty local officials, and influence elections.

Believing that more needs to be done on the cultural front, myself and Claud, two Freepers of long standing, have set up a website called:

The Continental Congress of Art

Our hope is that this site will "build interest in the vast artistic and literary treasure trove of American civilization, as well as serve as a hub for new ideas and endeavors, with the common goal being the advancement of literature and fine art in the United States of America." In short, we hope to turn the site into a network and free showcase for like-minded artists and writers, and play a part, however small, in a cultural reawakening in America.

Similar to the original Continental Congress of 1774, we are hoping to attract 'delegates' from across the country. As this effort is very much in its infancy, we have posted to date only four individuals on our delegates page (most of whom are associated in some way with our publishing program), representing three northeastern states. We are eager to add delegates from other states and regions and based on the popularity of the 'Free Republic Poet Laureate' threads, we know there are many Freeper writers and artists out there. If you think you've got what it takes to become a delegate, we encourage you to visit the site and give it a shot.

Even if you're not a writer or artist, you might be interested in visiting the site just to check out our links to America's Heritage, our Guide to Literary Form, or the photos of America scattered throughout the site taken by Claud and yours truly.


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And of course, if any of you have constructive criticism, comments, or ideas for how to improve the site, please feel free to chime in. We're still working on things over there.
1 posted on 01/16/2002 6:35:14 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: Claud
FYI, bump.
2 posted on 01/16/2002 6:45:00 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus
While the implication is that communists have directed the cultural changes cited above, most of those in America who advocate for these leftist positions do not see themselves as communists and they would adamantly deny they support communism in any form. Nevertheless, they have managed the communist agenda rather sucessfully
3 posted on 01/16/2002 6:55:56 AM PST by Rudder
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To: Antoninus
"War to the hilt between communism and capitalism is inevitable. Today, of course, we are not strong enough to attack. Our time will come in thirty or forty years. To win, we shall need the element of surprise. The Western world will need to be put to sleep. So we shall begin by launching the most spectacular peace movement on record. There shall be electrifying overtures and unheard of concessions. The capitalist countries, stupid and decadent, will rejoice to cooperate to their own destruction. They will leap at another chance to be friends. As soon as their guard is down, we shall smash them with our clenched fist."

Dmitrii Z. Manuilskii

Lenin School of Political Warfare

Moscow, 1931

4 posted on 01/16/2002 6:57:17 AM PST by WarPaint
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To: coteblanche; sabertooth; susangirl; okimhere; WillaJohns; Registered; proud2bRC; patent...
Bump to poets and others...
5 posted on 01/16/2002 7:01:47 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: Rudder
While the implication is that communists have directed the cultural changes cited above, most of those in America who advocate for these leftist positions do not see themselves as communists and they would adamantly deny they support communism in any form. Nevertheless, they have managed the communist agenda rather sucessfully

I fully agree. Let's not forget that the spread of the communist agenda has depended heavily on the enthusiastic support of people they term 'useful idiots' - those who would support their short-term aims and those they proclaimed to the public (peace, workers' rights, racial equality, etc.), even if they were in the dark about their long-term goals.

There is now concrete evidence that foreign-supported members of the Communist Party USA did infiltrate Hollywood starting in the 1930's. All of the members of the 'celebrated' Hollywood 10 were in fact communists, though they were loath to admit it. Given the scorn heaped upon the HUAC investigations of the time by our contemporary 'artists' and 'entertainers', one is forced to wonder how successful this infiltration really was.

But don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make the case that our current cultural situation is completely the result of some nefarious covert "communist" infiltration. However, it has always amazed me that the leaders of our cultural and educational institutions, entertainment icons and media outlets all seem to sing from the same song-sheet in terms of political issues.
6 posted on 01/16/2002 7:12:55 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: WarPaint
"War to the hilt between communism and capitalism is inevitable. Today, of course, we are not strong enough to attack. Our time will come in thirty or forty years. To win, we shall need the element of surprise. The Western world will need to be put to sleep. So we shall begin by launching the most spectacular peace movement on record. There shall be electrifying overtures and unheard of concessions. The capitalist countries, stupid and decadent, will rejoice to cooperate to their own destruction. They will leap at another chance to be friends. As soon as their guard is down, we shall smash them with our clenched fist."

Worth repeating. I have a quote from Stalin saying that he felt that if he could control Hollywood, he could take over the world. I can't find an internet source for it, though. Ever heard it?
7 posted on 01/16/2002 7:16:23 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus
No... but I will look for it.
8 posted on 01/16/2002 7:36:15 AM PST by WarPaint
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To: Antoninus
Bumpity.
9 posted on 01/16/2002 7:36:59 AM PST by patent
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To: Antoninus
>>>But don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to make the case that our current cultural situation is completely the result of some nefarious covert "communist" infiltration. However, it has always amazed me that the leaders of our cultural and educational institutions, entertainment icons and media outlets all seem to sing from the same song-sheet in terms of political issues.

They largely play by different rules, going after one institution after another. AS soon as they get a foothold, that foothold is used to bring in more and more people like them. They may not see themselves as communist cells, but for practical purposes they act like them.

patent

10 posted on 01/16/2002 7:38:59 AM PST by patent
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To: WarPaint
...Shudder!....
11 posted on 01/16/2002 7:43:14 AM PST by redhead
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To: Antoninus
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.

They have accomplished this. Take a look at the list, then ask yourself how many of these things listed the Democratic Party stands for.

12 posted on 01/16/2002 7:47:53 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse
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To: Antoninus
"Worth repeating. I have a quote from Stalin saying that he felt that if he could control Hollywood, he could take over the world. I can't find an internet source for it, though. Ever heard it?"

Check this out. (I don't know how to make fancy links.)

http://home.att.net/~dericker/Errors/what_did__hollywood_contri.htm

13 posted on 01/16/2002 7:58:56 AM PST by WarPaint
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To: Antoninus
Your# 7)Worth repeating. I have a quote from Stalin saying that he felt that if he could control Hollywood, he could take over the world

Anti-Christianity=Feminism=Postmodernism=Socialism's Communism=TOTALITARIAN DEMOCRACY=Feminism's Anti-Christianity

14 posted on 01/16/2002 7:59:56 AM PST by maestro
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To: Antoninus; patent
It is a sad fact of modern conservatism that while we have plenty of cultural critics, we seem to have so few cultural contributors. You can't banish the darkness from a room--you have to bring in the light.

Where is our answer to Hollywood? Where is our answer to the post-modern literary/arts establishment? Why do we always complain about the tripe they put out, and yet fail to put out anything better? Why are we playing by *their* rules, toadying up to their producers, studio executives, galleries, music critics, etc.?

The only way to win the culture war is to actually FIGHT one--and not merely by protesting what is there now, but by superseding and replacing it. *We* conservatives have the scholarship, *we* have the vision, *we* have the timeless values that will be here long after the idiocies of the modern era have passed beyond memory. Then by all means, let's DEVELOP them.

I am sick and tired of hearing conservatives complain about what's out there artistically. Are we mice, and not men? Are we complainers, and not doers? Are we destined to become a movement of crotchety old men, forever condemning, and never constructing? Have we become post-modernists and nihilists ourselves?

If we don't band together on this, the liberals and their feckless "art" will win by default. Cry havoc, conservative artists... and let slip the dogs of war.

15 posted on 01/16/2002 8:02:03 AM PST by Claud
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>>>Cry havoc, conservative artists... and let slip the dogs of war.

If I show you my art you will cry all right. My wife is more the artist, so we have hope for the kids.

patent

16 posted on 01/16/2002 8:07:24 AM PST by patent
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To: Antoninus
Love doin' the research... but gotta go to work for now. Here's another link.

http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a36e0edd91034.htm

17 posted on 01/16/2002 8:07:31 AM PST by WarPaint
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To: WarPaint
HOLLYWOOD PARTY - Communism, Communists, and Cinema

Good link.
18 posted on 01/16/2002 9:19:18 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: maestro
Anti-Christianity=Feminism=Postmodernism=Socialism's Communism=TOTALITARIAN DEMOCRACY=Feminism's Anti-Christianity

You forgot a few: Homosexualism=Nihilism=Radical Environmentalism
19 posted on 01/16/2002 9:22:54 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: WarPaint
Wow, this article should be posted to FR on it's own, if it hasn't been already. Brilliant! Here's a link:

What did Hollywood Contribute to Socialism?
20 posted on 01/16/2002 9:28:30 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus
Your# 19)You forgot a few: Homosexualism=Nihilism=Radical Environmentalism

Correct!
Thanks

21 posted on 01/16/2002 9:41:11 AM PST by maestro
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FYI bump!
22 posted on 01/16/2002 9:53:55 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: DonnerT; Snow Bunny; Neuromancer; murdoog; Tennessee_Bob; d14truth;
Ping!
23 posted on 01/16/2002 10:03:17 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: SLJP
Ping! This may interest you.
24 posted on 01/16/2002 10:08:38 AM PST by Jen
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Culture war bump!
25 posted on 01/16/2002 10:24:57 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus
Thanks, "The Naked Communist," by Cleon Skousen is an excellent book !

Thank you for the ping and thread.

26 posted on 01/16/2002 10:36:26 AM PST by Snow Bunny
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To: Notwithstanding; aquinasfan; arrogant bustard; dumbox; jmj333; IM2Phat4U; Aunt Polgara; AgThorn...
Here's a small private initiative to help fight the culture war...
27 posted on 01/16/2002 10:41:34 AM PST by Antoninus
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Culture war bump
28 posted on 01/16/2002 10:42:21 AM PST by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus
Thanks for the ping and bttt! =)
29 posted on 01/16/2002 11:03:05 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: Antoninus
Hollywood would not do anything to threaten its own lifestyle and standard of living. It cares less about your lifestyle and standard of living. But if you watch TV or go to movies it probably wouldn't want to see you impoverished either.

Skousen confuses some things. There were a lot of actors and screenwriters with Communist leanings in the 1930s. There has also been a long-standing hostility in Hollywood to religion and traditional social values. But this doesn't mean that Hollywood is Communist. They just make too much money for that. True, they don't like religion or small-town America. They don't hesitate to villify right-wingers. They give to the Democrats and gush over Clinton-types. But any socialism in Hollywood is more dilettantish than anything else. Like the Democratic Party, Hollywood knows what side its bread is buttered on. There are plenty of reasons to hate Hollywood, but Skousen was as much wrong as right, if not more so.

Militant generations tend to see everything in terms of war, revolution, liberation, struggle. That's why the "culture war" became such a powerful image. People were still fighting about the 1960s. A lot of those fights continue, but subsequent generations don't approach them with the same passion. What's come out since 9/11, if not earlier, is that we are more one country than we thought we were. It's the nature of activists to see everything in terms of a struggle always in progress and never stopping, but most people recognize that the country is less divided than it sometimes seems -- if for no other reason, then because real war has overshadowed our political and cultural conflicts. Political disagreements persist, as one would expect them too, but confronted with the Taliban and al Quaida we find that patriotism and law and order or modernity and cultural freedom aren't so alien to our own make-up or that of our opponents.

The development of new media and promotion of new artists is all to the good, as is the desire to bring conservative voices to art and media, but the culture war doesn't reflect what's going on now. Look at history. The "culture war" was very divisive in the 1920s, as conflicts over prohibition, evolution, immigration, modern art, theology and sex showed. For the next 30 or 40 years that culture war was dormant as depression, war, and cold war took center stage. We may be seeing a similar development now.

30 posted on 01/16/2002 11:18:12 AM PST by x
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To: Rudder
The communists did not need to use communists or convert people to communism to accomplish the numbered goals.

They communists knew that the cultural decay would set the stage such that a majority of folks would one day consider communism.

31 posted on 01/16/2002 11:19:37 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Antoninus
Thanks for the heads up!
32 posted on 01/16/2002 11:29:35 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Antoninus
This is a superb effort.

The second thing we need to do is to stop funding the left with our tax dollars.

34 posted on 01/16/2002 11:54:48 AM PST by IM2Phat4U
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To: Antoninus
bump for later
35 posted on 01/16/2002 12:50:28 PM PST by EternalHope
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To: Antoninus
Thanks for the heads up.
36 posted on 01/16/2002 1:01:27 PM PST by Old Fud
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To: x
Militant generations tend to see everything in terms of war, revolution, liberation, struggle. That's why the "culture war" became such a powerful image. People were still fighting about the 1960s. A lot of those fights continue, but subsequent generations don't approach them with the same passion.

I'm Gen X, about the least militant generation you can have. I certainly didn't have any passion about the issues of the '60s (which by the way, we were almost forced to care about). But after I became a conservative, suddenly I was utterly indignant at being lied to all these years, and being sold a bill of goods by the folks in the liberal elite. I actually think that the energy lies with the conservative movement right now.

I'm not a pessimist--and I certainly appreciate the cohesion we've showed after 9-11. But the "constant state of struggle" is not an idea confined to activists and insurgents--I think an honest reading of history shows it really is a never-ending battle.

37 posted on 01/16/2002 1:18:49 PM PST by Claud
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To: IM2Phat4U
The second thing we need to do is to stop funding the left with our tax dollars.

Actually, that's the FIRST thing we need to do. Our little effort is just an attempt to get a head start on countering the "counter-culture" by offering something different and hopefully better. Thanks for the encouraging words!
38 posted on 01/16/2002 2:09:35 PM PST by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus
BUMP for perusal when I wake up sufficiently!! (Thanks for the ping, AFVetGal!!)
39 posted on 01/16/2002 2:45:49 PM PST by Beep
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To: Antoninus
Sign me on! In the meanwhile I boycott movies, sit-coms, etc.
40 posted on 01/16/2002 3:45:33 PM PST by GROUCHOTWO
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To: patent
If I show you my art you will cry all right. My wife is more the artist, so we have hope for the kids.

Ah, but you can't fool us. We know you write well, just based on your posts on FR...
41 posted on 01/16/2002 5:10:21 PM PST by Antoninus
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To: Gelato
FYI...thought this article's reference to Cleon Skousen might interest you.
42 posted on 01/16/2002 5:18:15 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Claud
It is a sad fact of modern conservatism that while we have plenty of cultural critics, we seem to have so few cultural contributors. You can't banish the darkness from a room--you have to bring in the light.

Actually, I think there are plenty of potential contributors out there. Many of them have been through the wringer trying to get their work accepted in journals, shows, books, etc. I'm sure many of them are just plain disillusioned by rejection and feel that perhaps their work isn't 'sexy' enough to make it in this cultural morass in which we find ourselves. Better to keep their work to themselves than risk ridicule and rejection at the hands of our cultural elites.

That's where we come in. We build a network of people that appreciate literature and art that have positive messages, embrace American traditions and values, and generally celebrate that which is good, honorable, holy, and beautiful. Contrast this to what's being foisted upon us: the ugly, the repulsive, the meaningless, the sacrilegious. Seems like a no-brainer to me...
43 posted on 01/16/2002 5:27:16 PM PST by Antoninus
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Hollywood would not do anything to threaten its own lifestyle and standard of living.

Personally, I don't believe that. They know that well-done, wholesome movies without a political agenda are a lock to bring in big cash. My 60 year old mother and her friends go to the movies regularly. The only thing that stops them is a sheer lack of unoffensive films to watch. Yes, Hollywood is out to make money, but they're also out for something else. Wasn't it Lenin who claimed that he would sell us the rope with which we would hang ourselves?

There were a lot of actors and screenwriters with Communist leanings in the 1930s.

Well, actually, there were a lot of out-and-out members of the Communist Party USA who were actors and screenwriters. After the investigations of the 1950s, some of them like Dalton Trumbo, openly boasted that they had been able to insert communist themes into certain movies, and that they'd been able to keep anti-communist movies from being made. Furthermore, we now know that the Communist Party USA had been receiving funding from ol' Uncle Joe in the Soviet Union. That's more than 'communist leanings' - that's treason.

There has also been a long-standing hostility in Hollywood to religion and traditional social values. But this doesn't mean that Hollywood is Communist. They just make too much money for that.

If you think money and communism don't mix, you must not remember that Leonid Breshniev had a collection of antique cars. Money and communism DO mix. It's just that only the guys at the top get to enjoy the wealth. Everyone else gets to share what's left.

True, they don't like religion or small-town America. They don't hesitate to villify right-wingers. They give to the Democrats and gush over Clinton-types. But any socialism in Hollywood is more dilettantish than anything else.

See my 'useful idiot' comment above. Sure, there are plenty of useful idiots in Hollywood. However, there's no denying that Hollywood has its share of 'true believers' and 'apparatchiks' as well.

Militant generations tend to see everything in terms of war, revolution, liberation, struggle. That's why the "culture war" became such a powerful image.

It's not a generational issue. If you've read any marxist/communist literature, that's all they say. Such talk appeals to the young and foolish. The left is always after the young. Witness their attempts to force their agenda into the public schools. Why is that?

The development of new media and promotion of new artists is all to the good, as is the desire to bring conservative voices to art and media, but the culture war doesn't reflect what's going on now.

Perhaps not. But to successfully prosecute a culture war, you have to plant seeds now or else go hungry later.

Look at history. The "culture war" was very divisive in the 1920s, as conflicts over prohibition, evolution, immigration, modern art, theology and sex showed.

Our conflicts are even more divisive than in the 1920s - abortion, 'multiculturalism', drugs, secularism, illegal immigration, scandalous art, the porn culture, etc. The mere fact that people are seriously considering elevating the status of homosexual liaisons to be on par with that of marriage is proof enough that we are at a nexus of cultural conflict.

For the next 30 or 40 years that culture war was dormant as depression, war, and cold war took center stage. We may be seeing a similar development now.

It was not dormant. If you read some of the articles about what Stalin and the communists were up to while supposedly our allies against Nazism, it's fairly clear that the culture war wasn't dormant - only one side was fighting it.
44 posted on 01/16/2002 6:05:09 PM PST by Antoninus
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To: Notwithstanding
The communists did not need to use communists or convert people to communism to accomplish the numbered goals. They communists knew that the cultural decay would set the stage such that a majority of folks would one day consider communism.

Exactly!!! It's the same MO used by our friends in the Democrat party today - create a crisis, exacerbate it, put yourself forward as the ONLY solution to the crisis. Get enough people to believe you and the country is yours!

Cultural decay was one method by which they hoped to destabilize us. It's working. I posit that the best way to head this rot off at the pass is by presenting a viable alternative to the loathesome garbage served up by our cultural elites. Get enough people to ignore them, ridicule them, become jaded with them and their rhetoric and they're finished.
45 posted on 01/16/2002 6:11:45 PM PST by Antoninus
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To: GROUCHOTWO
Sign me on! In the meanwhile I boycott movies, sit-coms, etc.

I do strategic boycotts. For example, when a quality movie like The Patriot comes out, I make sure to see it, encourage lots of other people to see it, then rent it when it comes out. In the case of The Patriot I bought it too!

I gladly stay home when movies like American Beauty are out there. Wouldn't spend a dime on such garbage.
46 posted on 01/16/2002 6:15:54 PM PST by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus
Culture Warrior bump

(if those are the objectives.. it would appear that we have lost the war ya know..)

47 posted on 01/16/2002 6:22:38 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: Antoninus
Congratulations on this first step on our attempt to combat this assault on our culture.
48 posted on 01/16/2002 7:08:43 PM PST by GROUCHOTWO
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To: Jhoffa_
(if those are the objectives.. it would appear that we have lost the war ya know..)

Huh? Could you explain that, please?

Actually, there's no complete victory or total defeat in a culture war (short of armed repression). As long as a few reject the dominant culture, the war goes on. Right now, the left may have us down, but some of us are ready to get off the mat. If we don't they'll just continue to kick us in the ribs anyway!
49 posted on 01/16/2002 7:37:39 PM PST by Antoninus
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To: Antoninus
I know..

I was just being bitter at all we have sacrificed thus far in this "culture war"

50 posted on 01/16/2002 7:50:04 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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