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Was Richard Reid 'Shoe Bomber No. 2'?
WorldNetDaily ^ | 1/17/02 | Debkafile

Posted on 01/17/2002 4:02:31 PM PST by gohabsgo

Was Richard Reid, the Briton indicted this week on charges of attempted murder -- after failing to blow up American Airlines Flight 63 from Paris to Miami on Dec. 22 -- the first shoe bomber?

DEBKA-Net-Weekly reports a spreading conviction among aviation and counter-terror experts that he was Shoe Bomber No. 2, and that American Airlines Flight 587 was brought down 40 days earlier over Queens, N.Y., by Shoe Bomber No. 1.

Their argument springs from a simple question: Why did not Reid simply lock himself in the bathroom and ignite the fuse to the bomb without risk of interference? The answer is that he was instructed to position himself in window seat No. A 19, next to where the wing attaches to the body of the plane to follow the example of Shoe Bomber No. 1.

A bomb exploding in this position would allow the plastic explosive to erupt through the wall of the cabin and rupture the wing where jet fuel is stored. This position was also close to the center fuel tank in the body of the plane between the wings. If Reid had not been wrestled down by the flight attendants and passengers, the explosives in his shoes would have ripped a hole in the side of the plane and then ignited the fuel stored in the wing.

This, according to DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s sources, is precisely what happened on the AA flight 587 Airbus bound for Santo Domingo, 40 days previously, with tragic consequences. All 255 passengers and crew died, as well as five people on the ground.

The official explanation is that the crash was caused by turbulence from another jet, mechanical defects in the composite materials in the tail of the plane -- causing the tail to fall off -- and pilot error. DEBKA's sources say that explanation does not cover the evidence. Several witnesses report that a small explosion occurred on the right-hand side of the fuselage, before the second big explosion on the right wing. “It was only then that the plane fell apart.”

As the plane nose-dived, the tail section dropped off and then both engines separated from the airliner, each engine landing over 800 feet away from the crash site. One aviation expert says there has never been a crash in the history of accidental aviation disasters in which both engines broke away from the plane at the same time.

According to his explanation – based on the physical axiom that every action produces an equal and opposite reaction -- a high-velocity explosion on one side of an airliner will cause expelling gases to create a rocket effect that will push the plane in the opposite direction, which weakened the tail.

With the damaged tail rudder only partially attached to the aircraft, the pilot tried to correct the plane’s attitude by using the rudder foot controls. When the plane did not respond, the pilot would have attempted to push the right rudder harder alternating between his left and right foot. This would have been recorded in the black box as “over response” and therefore pilot error.

The violent sideways motion of the aircraft body, produced by the explosion exhaust, would account for the two jet engines falling to the ground, according to the expert source. Thus, although Shoe Bomber No. 1 got away with carrying out his mission of terror, fortunately for the 197 aboard AA Flight 63 Richard Reid was stopped in the nick of time.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; osamabinladen; richardreid; shoebomber
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If this is true, I don't know what to say anymore.
1 posted on 01/17/2002 4:02:31 PM PST by gohabsgo
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According to his explanation ? based on the physical axiom that every action produces an equal and opposite reaction -- a high-velocity explosion on one side of an airliner will cause expelling gases to create a rocket effect that will push the plane in the opposite direction, which weakened the tail.

I hate it whenI'm right!!!

2 posted on 01/17/2002 4:05:04 PM PST by RaceBannon
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Ouch, using DEBKA as a source? Obviously not true. I think if a bomb had gone off on the plane, they would find that out rather quickly. Sorry...
3 posted on 01/17/2002 4:05:51 PM PST by TheDon
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To: gohabsgo
BTTT
4 posted on 01/17/2002 4:06:57 PM PST by firewalk
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To: gohabsgo
TWA 800!! Can you say "Center Fuel Tank Explosion"
5 posted on 01/17/2002 4:07:29 PM PST by The Turbanator
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VISIT WWW.SPIRITOFAMERICAPARTY.COM CLICK ON "WAS BATUTI A HERO OR A TERRORIST" DO YOU BELIEVE THE CONCORD CRASHED ON A BEER CAN?
6 posted on 01/17/2002 4:07:31 PM PST by ABUTOM
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Any good reporter(who speaks spanish, since most of the passengers were Dominican), could look over the manifest of flight 537 and ask questions of the families involved.

Did Debka do this?

7 posted on 01/17/2002 4:07:33 PM PST by Dane
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To: gohabsgo
This thread poses a very, very valid question.
8 posted on 01/17/2002 4:08:33 PM PST by Republic
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Has it ever been released WHO was setting in those seats on the air bus that crashed?
9 posted on 01/17/2002 4:08:50 PM PST by Uncle George
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To: gohabsgo
geauxhabsgeaux
10 posted on 01/17/2002 4:09:20 PM PST by dennisw
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To: gohabsgo
If this hasn't crossed everyones mind at least once, you're not thinking.
11 posted on 01/17/2002 4:13:08 PM PST by blam
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To: gohabsgo
DEBKA's credibility is worthless, however, I agree with this scenario. Hey, even a stopped clock is right twice a day!
12 posted on 01/17/2002 4:13:30 PM PST by BullDog108
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I totally agree. There has been a near-blackout here in NY of news regarding this crash. I've been thinking, big brother decided NY couldn't handle anymore, the exchange would crash, so they decided it was an acciden.
13 posted on 01/17/2002 4:13:35 PM PST by Burn24
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To: gohabsgo
This idea isn't original with this article.

I think it sounds like a feasible idea, but I don't believe in a deliberate cover-up. I also believe that in cases like this where an accident is possible that the terrorists responsible would make it known it was an act of terrorism.

14 posted on 01/17/2002 4:13:37 PM PST by tallhappy
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I never DID think Arabs should be trusted with shoes. Keep them barefoot like their wives and children.
15 posted on 01/17/2002 4:14:43 PM PST by crystalk
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I never DID think Arabs should be trusted with shoes. Keep them barefoot like their wives and children.
16 posted on 01/17/2002 4:14:52 PM PST by crystalk
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"Has it ever been released WHO was setting in those seats on the air bus that crashed?"

I have not found a passenger list for that flight...
ANYONE know of one by chance?

17 posted on 01/17/2002 4:15:35 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: Uncle George
I was also wondering about that. Very strange, indeed.
18 posted on 01/17/2002 4:16:55 PM PST by Capt_Hank
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Thus, although Shoe Bomber No. 1 got away with carrying out his mission of terror, fortunately for the 197 aboard AA Flight 63 Richard Reid was stopped in the nick of time.

If 587 was "shoe job" #1 it appears to have fallen flat (pardon the pun). Hardly anyone seemed concerned about the possibility of an onboard explosion once attention focused upon the plane's tail, which appeared to have broken off clean. Could it have been two synchronized shoe jobs, one at the wings and one in the lavatory in the rear?

19 posted on 01/17/2002 4:17:18 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Native American Female Vet
searched google and found a list
20 posted on 01/17/2002 4:17:22 PM PST by Nouge
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