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Saudis financed terror ship
world net daily ^ | THURSDAY jan 17th

Posted on 01/18/2002 11:39:31 AM PST by classygreeneyedblonde

Paid $10 million to Iran for arms destined for Palestinian intifada

The financing of the Karine-A arms-smuggling ship destined for the Gaza Strip came from Saudi Arabia – a shocking discovery made, according to intelligence sources, by all three teams investigating the affair: American, Israeli and Palestinian.

They established that Saudi sources put up the $10 million paid over to Iran for the weapons cargo, the $400,000 purchasing price for the vessel and another $1 million to cover miscellaneous expenses, such as hiring the crew, fuel, repairs and port charges.

The discovery rocked the U.S. and Israeli governments back on their heels. But, together with the Palestinians, each decided for its own reasons to treat the information as sensitive and keep it under wraps. For, more than any previous indication, this new fact is disturbing evidence of the uncertain internal situation in Saudi Arabia, demonstrating for the first time the willingness of influential figures in the royal house and Saudi intelligence to go out on a limb and back the Palestinian-Hezbollah-Iran connection.

Until now, Saudi Arabia was known to have refused financial aid to Yasser Arafat’s intifada, funding only the fundamentalist Hamas at its bases in Palestinian-controlled areas, Jordan and Syria.

Technically, the funds for the arms-smuggling operation were advanced by Muslim charitable societies in Jeddah, but investigators say no sums of any such scale could have been secreted out of the oil kingdom without the knowledge and consent of Saudi intelligence and government authorities – especially if they went through Abu Dhabi and Beirut.

Intelligence sources close to the investigation say that the Karine-A funding is nothing compared to the burgeoning transactions in train between Saudi Arabians and factions of the Iranian government and military intelligence. Saudi Arabians are now believed to have underwritten some of the costs entailed in transferring al-Qaida fighters from Afghanistan via Iran to safe havens in the Gulf.


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It's funny that everything always points back to the Saudis hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


1 posted on 01/18/2002 11:39:31 AM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Now, what's this about a war on terror?
2 posted on 01/18/2002 11:41:56 AM PST by onedoug
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Uh-Oh!
3 posted on 01/18/2002 11:43:42 AM PST by Mike Darancette
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Bump
4 posted on 01/18/2002 11:45:33 AM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
The Saudi's just ran a full page add in the Oregonian newspaper, saying they are united with the US. It had a picture of a white dove. (ya know - Islam = peace & love). Saudi Arabia is more repressive than China.
5 posted on 01/18/2002 11:50:07 AM PST by aimhigh
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
I was wondering what got the Saudi's even more defensive during the past couple of days.
6 posted on 01/18/2002 11:52:54 AM PST by Cold Heat
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
I know this is wrong because the Saudis are our friends.

Over and out.

MM

7 posted on 01/18/2002 11:53:22 AM PST by MississippiMan
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
In general I think very well of President Bush. But sometime soon he is going to have to decide which is more important, his family's long-standing friendship with the Saudi royal family, or the safety and security of the United States and its citizens. The Saudis were involved with Al Quaeda up to their eyebrows. At least half the ringleaders were Saudis. They have funded Islamic terrorism all over the world. It is not altogether clear that they ever truly repudiated Osama Bin Laden, or just pretended to. And they have refused to cooperate in investigations since 9/11.

It's one thing to have supported Islamic fundamentalism before 9/11. It's a great deal more disturbing to continue supporting known terrorists after 9/11, when the choice is crystal clear.

Bush said, "Either you are with us, or against us." It's far from clear that the Saudis are with us. They are STILL dragging their feet, obstructing investigations, and even helping the other side.

8 posted on 01/18/2002 11:54:56 AM PST by Cicero
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To: aimhigh
Not one of those middle eastern countries that are any good except Israel


9 posted on 01/18/2002 11:55:10 AM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Sounds like another Debka fantasy to me.
10 posted on 01/18/2002 11:56:25 AM PST by Dog Gone
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
I see you're using your "green to gold" text morph. Go Packers?
11 posted on 01/18/2002 11:57:07 AM PST by brewcrew
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Will it matter in the end if it was the Saudi Royals that did the financing? I mean, if the financing was done by, say, Osama's Daddy or a close relative, would it matter to the Israeli's or to the US? If in fact it was done by the Saudi government what would be our recorse, what would Israel's be? Any guesses? If this is incomprehensible, sorry, I'm on my second glass of Burgundy to counteract the cholesterol in the hotdogs I just ate.
12 posted on 01/18/2002 11:57:56 AM PST by CARTOUCHE
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Amen to that! We need the folks in the State Department to realize as such...
13 posted on 01/18/2002 12:00:43 PM PST by StoneColdGOP
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To: Cicero
I wonder how much this is related to the Russian decision to increase oil production...?

It would certainly become interesting if Russian oil production increased in earnest, and EU and the US started buying more of the Russian oil and much, much less from the Middle East.

One could see very interesting dynamics take over if the infidel cash cows were to start thumbing their noses at the Middle Eastern cartels.

14 posted on 01/18/2002 12:01:26 PM PST by NEJake
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
they are not our friends.
15 posted on 01/18/2002 12:03:41 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2
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To: brewcrew
Well I could use yellow n black but I hate yellow


16 posted on 01/18/2002 12:04:45 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Any wonder why Saudi Arabia wants US troops out of their country.
17 posted on 01/18/2002 12:05:49 PM PST by hobblemaster
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
It's funny that everything always points back to the Saudis hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

No kidding, it doesn't look good.

18 posted on 01/18/2002 12:06:34 PM PST by VoiceOfBruck
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To: NEJake
It is directly related to the Russian oil deals. We're cutting Saudi out of the "money loop". Probably a good thing to invest in "Training Camels for Dummies".
19 posted on 01/18/2002 12:06:58 PM PST by TexanToTheCore
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To: NEJake
I don't think they ever were


20 posted on 01/18/2002 12:07:06 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: hobblemaster
Any wonder why Saudi Arabia wants US troops out of their country

Or why Prince Bandar (Saudi's ambassador to the US) hustled his tush back to Saudi last week.

21 posted on 01/18/2002 12:07:57 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Keep the Green & Gold until Sunday evening :-))
22 posted on 01/18/2002 12:08:55 PM PST by Catspaw
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To: hobblemaster
I wonder how soon after we leave that saddam starts up


23 posted on 01/18/2002 12:09:50 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Saudis have three arms:

One to shake your hand.
One to lift your wallet.
One to stab you in the back.

They are not our friends. Saudi Arabia is a religious despotism impoverishing the majority of its people.

24 posted on 01/18/2002 12:10:01 PM PST by Noumenon
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
I watch TV very rarely, but I have seen some of the Saudis talking on the subject of their relations with the US. There is a quiet sadness about them. I think they get it, that the gravy train is coming to an end. Saudi Arabia has not been able to generate much more businesses than the oil business and the economic fall out could be severe.
25 posted on 01/18/2002 12:11:05 PM PST by TexanToTheCore
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To: TexanToTheCore
I would rather see the US buy oil from Russia as opposed to sending "foreign aid" and getting nothing in return. Oil is good - and the Saudis need to feel some pressure until they shape up.
27 posted on 01/18/2002 12:13:12 PM PST by toddst
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
It's time we took off the gloves with the Saudis. They have been financing too much of trouble around in the name of Islam. We should oblige them with their demands for removing our Military from there. Have at it, Saddam before we ...
28 posted on 01/18/2002 12:18:37 PM PST by mikeIII
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
And how soon after that the Saudis start calling us back again. Let themfight their own war this time.
29 posted on 01/18/2002 12:20:58 PM PST by hobblemaster
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To: mikeIII
One of W's attributes is that if a person or organization does not cooperate with him in good faith, he goes around them and uses other "suppliers". There seem to be many who don't understand this, including many Demorats. Cutting the Saudis out of the oil business would be very consistant with his overall approach. It's a beautiful thing....
30 posted on 01/18/2002 12:22:30 PM PST by TexanToTheCore
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To: TexanToTheCore
I would also look for trouble for Saudi students getting student visas. There will be long unfortunate delays. I think this is more serious than most of us know.
31 posted on 01/18/2002 12:25:09 PM PST by TexanToTheCore
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To: hobblemaster
The taliban the a'queada the hamas the plo and every other terrorists .......let them call them nexttime


32 posted on 01/18/2002 12:29:13 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: Bruce Leroy
Well, we all know what the one reason why they aren't on the terrorist harboring nations list.

The problem is NOT oil. All Saudi oil production could be shut down and the world would still have plenty.

The problem is Mecca. Mecca, the most "holy" site in the world, is in Saudi Arabia.

If Bin Laden & his friends can convince the Muslim world that the U.S. threatens Mecca, they believe all of Islam will unite against us.

BTW, the dems keep trying to condemn Bush for his experience in the oil industry, and his knowledge of Saudi Arabia. Besides living in the past so far as the world's oil supply is concerned, they seem to have never heard of Mecca. It would be easy to educate them if they were willing to learn, but I am not hopeful. The American people, on the other hand, seem quite happy to have someone who understands the situation in charge.

33 posted on 01/18/2002 12:35:51 PM PST by EternalHope
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
We have all known for a long time that Saudi Arabia was on the fence, at best.

However, if this story is true, the problem is much worse than I thought. We simply cannot allow this to continue, and I am sure Saudi Arabia knows this full well.

34 posted on 01/18/2002 12:40:39 PM PST by EternalHope
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To: classygreeneyedblonde

35 posted on 01/18/2002 12:43:35 PM PST by Alouette
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To: Veronica, meridia, lent, dennisw, college repub, onyx, sabertooth, tex-oma, the documentary lady,
Bump FYI. The above is not a permanent ping list.
36 posted on 01/18/2002 12:44:14 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
I wonder how soon after we leave that saddam starts up

Who cares? Saddaam can have it. The Saudi Royal Family can kiss my arse!

37 posted on 01/18/2002 12:46:40 PM PST by NeoCaveman
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To: monkeyshine
Monkeyshines, you're playing some monkeyshines with that ping list! :)
38 posted on 01/18/2002 12:47:35 PM PST by Shermy
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To: sabramerican, yehuda, d4now, Mr170IQ, sJackson, southernfederalist
fyi bump
39 posted on 01/18/2002 12:50:25 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
Right on, my friend! It's time that the US woke up to the point that our real allies are few and far between and many nations that we send aid too, would love to see us fold. China, as an example, will stab us in the back again and again when it suites their goals, and is currently do such almost daily..
40 posted on 01/18/2002 12:52:06 PM PST by Joee
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To: Shermy
Just For Everybody's information. A new twist to an old story... still developing. A factoid for future debate.

But of course they don't call me monkeyshine for nothing. :-)

41 posted on 01/18/2002 12:52:08 PM PST by monkeyshine
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To: TexanToTheCore
Saudi Arabia has not been able to generate much more businesses than the oil business

The truth is that Saudi is a third-world pesthole but for the injections of oil money. Thay can't produce much more than camel covers for themselves, having instead used their wealth on high hog living for their master tribe and financing of terrorism around the world. The money's running out, the debt is piling on, and they're being found out. About time all the filth came home to roost.

42 posted on 01/18/2002 12:53:13 PM PST by Cachelot
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To: hobblemaster
It's my personal opinion that we should march our troops in Saudi Arabia over to the oil fields and seize them. This will cut off the funding of Al Qaida, Hamas, PLO, etc. at the root. It will also give us all the $5.00 a barrel crude oil we want.
43 posted on 01/18/2002 12:53:30 PM PST by Magician
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To: Alouette
Brought to you by the "Mecca-Wish Foundation."
44 posted on 01/18/2002 12:54:36 PM PST by N. Theknow
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To: Alouette

"Thank You for flying Al Queda Airlines; please continue to scream "Allahu Akbar" until the flight comes to a complete and ABRUPT stop, or until ALLAH appers to you with his pitchfork and cloven hooves and directions to your own personal lake of fire..."

45 posted on 01/18/2002 12:55:49 PM PST by Itzlzha
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
President Bush Said,

"YOU ARE EITHER WITH US OR YOU ARE AGAINST US." This also goes for Saudi Arabia...

A bunch of lying Sheetheads..

46 posted on 01/18/2002 12:57:46 PM PST by chatham
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To: Alouette
Fantastic idea, but an H-Bomb would be much more effective.
47 posted on 01/18/2002 1:00:10 PM PST by cinciphil
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To: TexanToTheCore
Cutting the Saudis out of the oil business would be very consistant with his overall approach. It's a beautiful thing....

Couldn't agree more! I'd very much like for us to call their bluff! We have OPEC-distorted economics at work here. Left to their own means, they'll be more desparate to sell than we are to buy! Russia is sitting on comparable quantities of oil and they are far more desparate for $s.

49 posted on 01/18/2002 1:05:59 PM PST by mikeIII
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To: monkeyshine
Of course this would not be surprising at all considering it is now well established that Saudi Arabia is the source for Islamic terrorism in terms of financial backing.
50 posted on 01/18/2002 1:06:52 PM PST by Lent
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