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Why Is Libertarianism Wrong?
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Posted on 02/01/2002 10:21:47 AM PST by Exnihilo

Why is libertarianism wrong?

Why is libertarianism wrong?

The origins, background, values, effects, and defects of libertarianism. Some sections are abstract, but at the end some irreducible value conflicts are clearly stated.


origins

Libertarianism is part of the Anglo-American liberal tradition in political philosophy. It is a development of classic liberalism, and not a separate category from it. It is specifically linked to the United States. Many libertarian texts are written by people, who know only North American political culture and society. They claim universal application for libertarianism, but it remains culture-bound. For instance, some libertarians argue by quoting the US Constitution, without apparently realising, that it is not in force outside the USA. Most online material on libertarianism contrasts it to liberalism, but this contrast is also specific the USA - where the word 'liberal' is used to mean 'left-of-centre'. Here, the word 'liberal' is used in the European sense: libertarians are a sub-category of liberals. As political philosophy, liberalism includes John Locke, John Stuart Mill, Karl Popper, Friedrich Hayek, Isaiah Berlin, and John Rawls. As a political movement, it is represented by the continental-European liberal parties in the Liberal International.

At this point, you might expect a definition of libertarianism. However, most definitions of libertarianism are written by libertarians themselves, and they are extremely propagandistic. "Libertarianism is freedom!' is a slogan, not a definition. Most other definitions of libertarianism borrow from those self-definitions, so I have avoided them. Instead, the values, claims, and effects listed below describe the reality of libertarianism.

values

The values of libertarianism can not be rationally grounded. It is a system of belief, a 'worldview'. If you are a libertarian, then there is no point in reading any further. There is no attempt here to convert you: your belief is simply rejected. The rejection is comprehensive, meaning that all the starting points of libertarian argument (premises) are also rejected. There is no shared ground from which to conduct an argument.

The libertarian belief system includes the values listed in this section, which are affirmed by most libertarians. Certainly, no libertarian rejects them all...

the claims and self-image of libertarianism

Libertarians tend to speak in slogans - "we want freedom", "we are against bureaucracy" - and not in political programmes. Even when they give a direct definition of libertarianism, it is not necessarily true.

The differences between libertarian image and libertarian reality are summarised in this table.

libertarian image libertarian reality
Image: non-coercion, no initiation of force Reality: libertarians legitimise economic injustice, by refusing to define it as coercion or initiated force
Image: moral autonomy of the individual Reality: libertarians demand that the individual accept the outcome of market forces
Image: political freedom Reality: some form of libertarian government, imposing libertarian policies on non-libertarians
Image: libertarians condemn existing states as oppressive Reality: libertarians use the political process in existing states to implement their policies
Image: benefits of libertarianism Reality: libertarians claim the right to decide for others, what constitutes a 'benefit'


political structures in a libertarian society

Values do not enforce their own existence in the social world. The values of libertarianism would have to be enforced, like those of any other political ideology. These political structures would be found in most libertarian societies.

effects

The effects of a libertarian world flow from the values it enforces.

what is libertarianism?

With the values and effects listed above, the general characteristics of libertarianism can be summarised.

Firstly, libertarianism is a legitimation of the existing order, at least in the United States. All political regimes have a legitimising ideology, which gives an ethical justification for the exercise of political power. The European absolute monarchies, for instance, appealed to the doctrine of legitimate descent. The King was the son of a previous King, and therefore (so the story went), entitled to be king. In turn, a comprehensive opposition to a regime will have a comprehensive justification for abolishing it. Libertarianism is not a 'revolutionary ideology' in that sense, seeking to overthrow fundamental values of the society around it. In fact, most US libertarians have a traditionalist attitude to American core values. Libertarianism legitimises primarily the free-market, and the resulting social inequalities.

Specifically libertarianism is a legitimation for the rich - the second defining characteristic. If Bill Gates wants to defend his great personal wealth (while others are starving) then libertarianism is a comprehensive option. His critics will accuse him of greed. They will say he does not need the money and that others desperately need it. They will say his wealth is an injustice, and insist that the government redistribute it. Liberalism (classic liberal philosophy) offers a defence for all these criticisms, but libertarianism is sharper in its rejection. That is not to say that Bill Gates 'pays all the libertarians'. (He would pay the Republican Party instead, which is much better organised, and capable of winning elections). Libertarianism is not necessarily invented or financed, by those who benefit from the ideology. In the USA and certainly in Europe, self-declared libertarians are a minority within market-liberal and neoliberal politics - also legitimising ideologies. To put it crudely, Bill Gates and his companies do not need the libertarians - although they are among his few consistent defenders. (Libertarians formed a 'Committee for the Moral Defense of Microsoft' during the legal actions against the firm).

Thirdly, libertarians are conservatives. Many are openly conservative, but others are evasive about the issue. But in the case of openly conservative libertarians, the intense commitment to conservatism forms the apparent core of their beliefs. I suggest this applies to most libertarians: they are not really interested in the free market or the non-coercion principle or limited government, but in their effects. Perhaps what libertarians really want is to prevent innovation, to reverse social change, or in some way to return to the past. Certainly conservative ideals are easy to find among libertarians. Charles Murray, for instance, writes in What it means to be a Libertarian (p. 138):

The triumph of an earlier America was that it has set all the right trends in motion, at a time when the world was first coming out of millennia of poverty into an era of plenty. The tragedy of contemporary America is that it abandonned that course. Libertarians want to return to it.

Now, Murray is an easy target: he is not only an open conservative, but also a racist. (As co-author of The Bell Curve he is probably the most influential western academic theorist of racial inferiority). But most US libertarians share his nostalgia for the early years of the United States, although it was a slave-owning society. Libertarianism, however, is also structurally conservative in its rejection of revolutionary force (or any innovative force). Without destruction there can be no long-term social change: a world entirely without coercion and force would be a static world.

the real value conflicts with libertarians

The descriptions of libertarianism above are abstract, and criticise its internal inconsistency. Many libertarian texts are insubstantial - just simple propaganda tricks, and misleading appeals to emotion. But there are irreducible differences in fundamental values, between libertarians and their opponents. Because they are irreducible, no common ground of shared values exists: discussion is fruitless. The non-libertarian alternative values include these...

the alternative: what should the state do?

The fundamental task of the state, in a world of liberal market-democratic nation states, is to innovate. To innovate in contravention of national tradition, to innovate when necessary in defiance of the 'will of the people', and to innovate in defiance of market forces and market logic. Libertarians reject any such draconian role for the state - but then libertarians are not the carriers of absolute truth.

These proposed 'tasks of the state' are a replacement for the standard version, used in theoretical works on public administration:

  1. to restrict tradition and heritage, to limit transgenerational culture and transgenerational community - especially if they inhibit innovation
  2. to restrict 'national values', that is the imposition of an ethnic or nation-specific morality
  3. to permit the individual to secede from the nation state, the primary transgenerational community
  4. to limit market forces, and their effects
  5. to permit the individual to secede from the free market
  6. to restrict an emergent civil society, that is, control of society by a network of elite 'actors' (businesses and NGO's)
  7. to prevent a 'knowledge society' - a society where a single worldview (with an absolute claim to truth) is uncontested .
To avoid confusion, note that they are not all directed against libertarianism: but if libertarians shaped the world, the state would do none of these things.


relevant links

Index page: liberalism

Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy: Liberalism - the mainstream definitions of liberalism.

Liberal Manifesto of Oxford (1947), European political liberalism. Some elements, such as "Loyal adherence to a world organisation of all nations..." would now be rejected by the same parties.

Libertäre Ideologie - a series of articles on the libertarian ideology at the online magazine Telepolis. Even if you can not read German, it is useful as a source of links, to libertarian and related sites.

European Libertarians. The Statue of Liberty on their homepage also symbolises Atlanticism: there is no recent libertarian tradition in Europe, outside the UK. More typical of European ultra-liberal politics is the New Right economic liberalism which was at the start of the Thatcher government in Britain. See for example the Institute for Economic Studies Europe, or in central Europe the Czech Liberální Institut.

Libertarian NL, a Dutch libertarian homepage (Aschwin de Wolf). But look at the political issues, the political thinkers, and the links: the libertarian world consists primarily of the United States. In December 2000 the featured theme was an open letter to Alan Greenspan, the chairman of the US central bank (Federal Reserve Board). Yet this is a Dutch website, made by people who live in Europe. Their currency policy is made by European central bank chairman Wim Duisenberg, the former Netherlands central bank president. But they chose to ignore the society around them, and live as wannabe US citizens. Again, a recurrent pattern among European libertarians.

Libertarisme: De renaissance van het klassiek liberalisme by Aschwin de Wolf. This introduction to libertarianism, written for the members of the Netherlands liberal party VVD, illustrates the missionary attitude of libertarians in Europe. European liberalism has become corrupted, they claim, and must reform itself on the model of US libertarianism.

Libertarisme FAQ: explicit about the conservative effects of libertarianism: "Je zou echter wel kunnen stellen dat het libertarisme conservatief is in die zin dat zij mensen in hun waarde laat en geen progressieve experimenten door de overheid toelaat. Het libertarisme is dus heel goed verenigbaar met het koesteren van tradities of andere overgeleverde manieren van leven."

democratic expansionism: liberal market democracy itself depends on coercion, a US military invasion for example

The advantage of capitalist trucks, David Friedman

The Cathedral and the Bazaar: libertarian ideologists are switching their attention from the Internet to Open Source. This text restates a theme from classic liberal philosophy: the contrast between emergent and ideal order (market and Church).

The non-statist FAQ seems to have gone offline (December 2000).

Critiques Of Libertarianism, the best-known anti-libertarian site, but almost exclusively US-American in content.

Elfnet: O/S for a Global Brain?: a good example of the combination of New Age, computer science, and globalism in global-brain connectionism. Opens, as you might expect, with a quote from Kevin Kelly.

Multi-Agent Systems / Hypereconomy: organicist free-market ideas from Alexander Chislenko, "...a contract economy looks much like a forest ecology..."
Networking in the Mind Age: Chislenko on a network global-brain. "The infomorph society will be built on new organizational principles and will represent a blend of a superliquid economy, cyberspace anarchy and advanced consciousness". I hope it works better than his website, which crashed my browser.

Gigantism in Soviet Space: the Soviet Union's state-organised mega-projects are a horror for all liberals. They contravene almost every libertarian precept.

The Right to Discriminate, from the libertarian "Constitution of Oceania". Few libertarians are so explicit about this, but logically it fits. The Right to Own a Business also provides that "Mandatory disability benefits for transvestites, pedophiles, pyromaniacs, kleptomaniacs, drug addicts, and compulsive gamblers are obviously forbidden."

Virtual Canton Constitution, from the libertarian think-tank Free Nation Foundation. Although they claim to be anti-statists, libertarians write many and detailed Constitutions. This one re-appears in the generally libertarian Amsterdam 2.0 urban design project.

Serbia and Bosnia: A Foreign Policy Formulation : libertarianism solves the Bosnia problem. "I am a newcomer to foreign policy and cannot claim to understand all that matters". From the Free Nation site, which advocates a (logically inconsistent) libertarian state.

Libertarian immigration: Entirely free, but, but...."Fortunately, a truly free society would be protected by the fact that all property would be private. Only an immigrant who had permission to occupy the property of another could even enter the country. Even roads and sidewalks would be privately owned and would probably require some type of fee for entry."

Libertarian Foreign Policy, Libertarian Party of Canada. An example of the isolationism which at present characterises North American libertarianism, despite its inherent universalist character.

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To: Cultural Jihad
lol
I don't understand arguing 'bout these things
we live in a democracy
people vote in who they want
my personal hunch is that the tide of liberalism is over -- history has moved on
and the new craving is for liberty
how this new craving will be expressed in the body politic, I don't know
but one way or nother, it's bound to be
Love, Palo
421 posted on 02/03/2002 5:05:40 PM PST by palo verde
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To: malador
hi malador
I find your posts sensible
(my prayers are in for your dad too)
Love, Palo
422 posted on 02/03/2002 5:08:40 PM PST by palo verde
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To: Jhoffa_;Exnihilo
Ex> Most libertarians support competitive interaction in a Darwinist form - Darwinist in the sense that some entities may disappear, in the process of competition.
Jh>Well, with respect to their showing in the polls.. I guess Darwin won.

"There the people go. I am their leader. I must hasten after them!"

423 posted on 02/03/2002 5:33:24 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Kind of shoots that theory full of holes, doesn't it?

:)

424 posted on 02/03/2002 5:37:37 PM PST by Jhoffa_
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To: palo verde
and the new craving is for liberty

Such as the liberty of people to again decide what kind of a society they are to live in?
Such as liberty of children to their own innocence?

425 posted on 02/03/2002 6:10:15 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: higgmeister
**Libertarians are the only true patriots left in our republic, yet we get vile slander and abuse from those that give lip service to the same cause.**

WAAAAAAAH! We're the only TRUE Americans and nobody likes us!! WAAAAAH!!

Your comment is an insult to every man and woman that is actually putting their lives on the line in defense of this country, home and abroad, while YOU sit on your whiny ass and complain that you're a victim. PUH-LEASE!!

It is for such comments that you libertarians and your elitist, arrogant "we're the only true patriots" "we're the only consistent philosophy" bull&$%# are attacked.

Face it, you're a 1% party and, if you weren't advocating drugs for everyone, you wouldn't be 1/3rd of that.

426 posted on 02/03/2002 9:13:22 PM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: Tall_Texan
Well for being only 1% the 'tarians sure have done a good job riling up folks like you. And you have it wrong, If the libertarians were not consistent in their respect for the constitution when it concerns the bogus "drug threat" (you've been attacked by plants before HAVEN'T YOU) they would probably have 10%, maybe more, at least enough to be included in the "debates". Sleep tight "big guy"
429 posted on 02/03/2002 11:14:51 PM PST by £inuxgruven
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To: L,TOWM
I think you'll find that the Church never became a place. We Orthodox build very grand edificies in which to hold our Liturgies, but the hut which St. Herman of Alaska made into a temple by blessing it, setting up a few Holy Icons, and laying a cloth blessed by his bishop on a rude wooden table (or for that matter the intermittently existing temple which the Mission I serve sets up and takes down in rented space for each Liturgy) are quite suitable, and when the faithful gather are the Church in that place.
431 posted on 02/04/2002 7:17:32 AM PST by The_Reader_David
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To: malador
hi malador
thanks for bein' a friend when I was badgered on that political thread a few weeks back
you took some of the heat off me, by having it fall on you lol
you helped me
I went to the Native American store here in Tucson and bought myself a badger fetish a few days later
(I figure I earned it)
it's a Zuni carving in black stone with turquoise eyes
sittin' on my desk now
he is quite handsome
my prayers are in for your dad
and my intuition says he'll be fine
so keep your hopes up
Love, Palo
432 posted on 02/04/2002 8:15:31 AM PST by palo verde
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To: malador
Then why don't you take up arms to overthrow the government instead of whining like a little baby that you're the "only true patriots"? I'd respect far more someone willing to die for a cause than someone who simply stamps their feet and pretends to be "more patriotic than thou".

You simply prove my previous point. Elitist and arrogant.

433 posted on 02/04/2002 8:47:24 AM PST by Tall_Texan
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To: stuartcr
As with religions, in politics, there is no right or wrong.

You actually believe this crap???? Wow.
434 posted on 02/04/2002 8:52:11 AM PST by Exnihilo
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To: A.J.Armitage
Using Southack's argument, the sight of Bill Clinton in a blue three-piece suit (instead of an orange jumpsuit) proves that there are no laws against perjury.
435 posted on 02/04/2002 11:04:56 AM PST by steve-b
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To: steve-b
Good one.
436 posted on 02/04/2002 12:23:59 PM PST by A.J.Armitage
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To: The_Reader_David
OK, I will try this ONE MORE TIME. I will stick to small words so that my thoughts may not cause your head to hurt. When the church went from an out of the mainstream (oooops two syllables, bear with me) MOVEMENT AND LIFESTYLE, something that people of faith did, despite being being turned into lion chow for it, into what HAD to be done for wealth, status, power, and privledge, it polluted the spiritual with the worldly.

Not a hard point to grasp is it?
Church = People of faith, on edge of society = What Jesus Did.
Church = All kinds of people, even those putting on a show for status = What Jesus Preached AGAINST.

Sorry if I seem rude, but after two posts I expect people on this forum to grasp fairly simple concepts. Of course, in any age, a remnant exists. If you are ever in LA, look me up. I'll take you to some wonderful worship and first class preacing in a building which began as a BOWLING ALLEY.

437 posted on 02/04/2002 3:24:35 PM PST by L,TOWM
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To: Smile-n-Win
It's not really about Libertarians; it's about us Conservatives.

Bingo!

438 posted on 02/04/2002 4:23:32 PM PST by decimon
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To: L,TOWM
If you think the Church should still be on the edge, try the Church: we Orthodox (who confess our communion to be indeed the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, founded by Christ in the Gift of the Holy Spirit to His Holy Apostles on the day of Pentecost) are quite out of the mainstream--we fast, confess our sins, use a different calendar than the rest of the world, use bows and gestures to try to get even our bodies to participate in the worship of God. We still have the mechanism Christians developped for staying on the edge when the Church ceased to be persecuted: monasticism. Indeed most of our spiritual tradition, even for ordinary laymen, is shaped by monasticism. One Sunday during Great Lent is devoted to St. John Climacus, whose notable contribution to the faith is a book "The Ladder of Divine Ascent" whose whole purpose is to instruct the reader in the kind of living in the world while not being of the world you seem to yearn for. Another Sunday of Great Lent holds up as an example of repentence St. Mary of Egypt, who abandoned the world in penance for her former life as a nymphomanical prostitute, and lived as a hermit in the desert. We have a whole class of saints venerated as "Fools-for-Christ" whom society at large saw as going over the edge, but whom the Church sees as exemplars of the Life in Christ.

I think you really need to go back to see what the Church actually looked like after the Peace of Constantine, rather than relying on protestant critiques of Rome's later abuses which accept the false papal claim to have been the head of the Church and use it to read the later abuses back to the time when the persecutions ceased.

439 posted on 02/06/2002 8:39:05 AM PST by The_Reader_David
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To: The_Reader_David
I'll pass. I prefer to be with Mike Comfort and Greg Koukl on the Santa Monica Boardwalk on Friday nights, evangelizing, offering "apologea" for the hope that we have, with gentleness and respect.

holds up as an example of repentence St. Mary of Egypt, who abandoned the world in penance, ... and lived as a hermit in the desert.Two observations. One, did she believe that Christ's atonement and her rebirth into a new woman that would "go and sin no more", were not sufficient? Two, how did that satisfy the Great Commission? Maybe its just me, but were I in a position to offer a suggestion, perhaps a greater service to the Lord would have been preaching the Gospel to her fellow "Ladies of the evening" and her "Johns". But, that's just me.

he mechanism Christians developped for staying on the edge when the Church ceased to be persecuted: monasticism

Must be tough to win souls when you are avoiding them. There are two signs on the way into my converted Bowling Alley churh building: "Give 'em Heaven" and "Win, Equip, Send". I'm not too sure if Win, Equip, Hide was what we were supposed to do.

BTW, I am sorry if I was overly rude in my prior post; that was inexcusable of me. I am sure that we will meet in New Jerusalem, since you do have a bold faith in our Redeemer. Then, we will, perhaps hear that both of us were right, just diferrently shaped stones, or that neither of us "got it". :-)

440 posted on 02/06/2002 9:01:40 AM PST by L,TOWM
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