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Federal Work Force Mirrors Demographic Makeup of America - Except When It Comes to Hispanics
AP ^ | Feb 2, 2002 | Genaro C. Armas

Posted on 02/02/2002 9:37:09 AM PST by greydog

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To: greydog
"Uncle Sam wants you - especially if you are Hispanic. This groups make up 13 percent of the population and 11 percent of the private sector work force. But Hispanics account for just 7 percent of the federal payroll." (Associated Press)

Once again the "mainstream" media refuses to be honest about immigration and racial matters.

How much of this discrepancy between the share of the "population" that is Hispanic and the Hispanic share of the federal workforce is due to such things as so high a percentage of the U.S. Hispanic population (compared to any other group) not even having a high-school degree?

How much of this discrepancy is due to so much (compared to European-Americans) of the U.S. Hispanic population being under 18 - and thus too young to work in most federal jobs?

How much of this discrepancy is due to rampant poor or nonexistent English fluency and literacy among Hispanics?

All are facts - facts that neither Washington nor the "mainstream" media will touch.

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21 posted on 02/02/2002 10:07:13 AM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: greydog
Maybe they should try speaking english - it might help them on job interviews.
22 posted on 02/02/2002 10:09:43 AM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Red Jones
Actually Red, I think it does take the military into account and that's why the figure for blacks is 17%. In non military federal employment, from what I've observed personally it seems that more than roughly 1 in 5 Fed workers is black.

regards.

23 posted on 02/02/2002 10:12:28 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: darvon
I know one postal worker in Old Hickory TN that's a Pubbie.....seriously.

Nice moniker....LOL. Good thing you didn't choose Diuladid or Quaalude....more LOL.

24 posted on 02/02/2002 10:14:49 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Right! Can they speak english, and not ebonics or espaniol? Next they should start hiring an interpretor to work along side every gummint employee to translate what they're saying. My most infuriating/frustrating experience was an ARAB IRS agent calling and giving me a rough time in pigeon english. He was probably an illegal to boot. If I have to get hassled by IRS, it's infurating to have it be a foreigner.
25 posted on 02/02/2002 10:16:14 AM PST by holyscroller
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To: Henchman
What happened to the word MERIT, i.e. ability to do the job?

I agree completely. The job should go to the most QUALIFIED applicant. No quotas, No preferences (except for Veterans.No I am not a veteran.)

26 posted on 02/02/2002 10:18:15 AM PST by snowtigger
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To: holyscroller
It was the IRS I called and I couldn't understand the guy. He wasn't Hispanic, sounded Indian. It makes me wonder who did these jobs before the world started coming here?

We pick on Canada a little bit sometimes, but their immigration system is far better than ours. In order to qualify for citizenship, you have to speak the language, along with having some skills. That would take out about 90% of the immigrants coming in here today.

27 posted on 02/02/2002 10:22:39 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: 07055, Keyes For President
Straight white males are the only group these activists are interested in seeing "terminated". ...

It will be at the expense of white straight males. ....

You two win the prize. :)

Clearly a more accurate title of the article would have been: "Ideologues Running The Federal Bureaucracy, Who Want to Hire More Hispanics At the Expense Of Whites for Racist Reasons, Decide to Play Up The Underrepresentation Of Hispanics Without Mentioning the Cause: Overrepresentation Of Blacks".

28 posted on 02/02/2002 10:23:22 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I see people making extremely insulting and derrogatory posts. I am a hard working, successfull, conservative of hispanic origin, and as far as I'm concerned these blanket insults aren't true. The same insults could be said of many white Americans.

Reagan was a great man. Many democrats defend their party by saying that Republicans are racists and intolerant of mintorities. I can with these posts see why some people believe them. Blanket insults against certain races or religions do more damage to those making than anything else.

29 posted on 02/02/2002 10:26:55 AM PST by mgist
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To: mgist
But that still doesn't explain how you blamed me for someone else's remark. Speak to him about it.

I'm not anti-Hispanic or anti-anyone. But I do think if someone wants to come to this great country - #1, come legally, and #2, don't expect handouts. My grandparents came during a time where if someone was a public charge, they were sent back home.

It's dishonest of anyone to say there aren't many immigrants coming today who are using federal benefits. If it wasn't true, then why did Bush just ask Congress to restore food stamps to immigrants? The answer speaks for itself.

30 posted on 02/02/2002 10:33:35 AM PST by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: mgist, wardaddy
["I believe I have seen reports whereby blacks who do work ultimately nearly 40% or so are employed by either Federal, State, or Local government."] I think I am starting to see why blacks and hispanics tend to vote Democratic.

Because Democrats flatter them more and make them big promises, condescending to them like little children while advocating policies which keep them dependent, psychologically and economically, on pandering politicians?

But seriously, what is your problem with the statement? wardaddy is making the claim that 40% of employed black people (the phrase "blacks who do work" is synonymous with "employed black people") are employed by the government, at some level. Does this bother you? Why? I assume that if it bothers you, you will say that in your opinion the government should hire less black people. Or that black people should find work outside of government. Right?

Or maybe it bothered you for wardaddy to say this because the number is not true. Maybe the real percentage is something lower. Why don't you enlighten us, then, with the real number, instead of just whining about wardaddy's claim?

Or maybe the real explanation is that for some reason you nominated yourself the PC Police of this thread. If that's the case: get over yourself :)

31 posted on 02/02/2002 10:35:27 AM PST by Dr. Frank fan
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To: greydog
"The bottom line for our community is that they want to see folks (in government) who look like them."

Imagine if a white person made this same quote.

32 posted on 02/02/2002 10:49:45 AM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: wardaddy
I believe I have seen reports whereby blacks who do work ultimately nearly 40% or so are employed by either Federal, State, or Local government.

Actually, 40 percent of the total population is employed by Federal, State or local government. Scary, isn't it, how 60 percent are supporting this 40 percent. Also, among the 60 percent not employed by the various governments, there would be a percentage who don't work at all and are on welfare, unemployment or social security. Maybe only 40 percent of us are supporting the whole country.

33 posted on 02/02/2002 10:51:46 AM PST by angry elephant
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To: stainlessbanner
Maybe they should try speaking english - it might help them on job interviews.

Yeah---and it would be handy for me to learn Spanish so I can communicate with the social workers at the welfare offices. I doubt they have many English speaking employees in there these days.

34 posted on 02/02/2002 10:52:36 AM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: Dr. Frank
Thanks Doc.

I'm used to it. Anytime I get in a candid thread about race, religion, Libertarian vs Conservative, Southern heritage, abortion , my unbending support for Israel, etc, I always get pegged by some PC Pop goes the Weasel type who doesn't like my views or at at a minimum my temerity to write non-PC things.

Problem with these folks is the usual: They just can't handle the Truth....it's not pretty and nor does it make them feel good about themselves.

I only harbour guilt about wrongdoings for which I am personally either directly or indirectly repsonsible for.

Judeo-Christian charity is a noble thing but feeling guilty cause the world ain't fair is just plain weak.

35 posted on 02/02/2002 10:53:35 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: HennepinPrisoner
Because only white people can be racist.
36 posted on 02/02/2002 10:53:40 AM PST by HennepinPrisoner
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To: mgist
I think I am starting to see why blacks and hispanics tend to vote Democratic.

We should use the term "Democrat" as opposed to "Democratic." "Democratic" is a misnomer for what Democrats represent.

37 posted on 02/02/2002 10:54:32 AM PST by angry elephant
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To: angry elephant
Or look at what a tiny percentage of folks pay the vast majority of tax and meanwhile we are anguishing over giving refunds to folks who pay no income tax at all as well as giving them a FICA refund. Absolute senselessness.

The Dems think anyone making over 50K a year are wealthy. Rubbish....depending on where one lives and how many dependents....middle class can run upwards of 200K a year.

38 posted on 02/02/2002 10:57:19 AM PST by wardaddy
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Sorry, I'm not blaming you. I was simply responding hastily.
39 posted on 02/02/2002 11:03:33 AM PST by mgist
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To: greydog
Who would want to hire people who have already demonstrated a propensity to break the law?

If they only count the legal Hispanics....I would bet the percentage of federal employees is actually higher than the percentage of legals in the population.
Especially when you consider that Hispanic is not a race...it is the ability to speak Spanish or hail from a Spanish speaking country.

(I am considering learning to speak espanol and changing my name to Gomez.)

40 posted on 02/02/2002 11:06:20 AM PST by JD86
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