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Campaign Finance “Reform” -- By the Elites, For the Elites
Congressman Bob Barr's Electronic Newsletter ^ | February 8, 2002 | Congressman Bob Barr

Posted on 02/08/2002 1:50:43 PM PST by dittomom

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To: Dan from Michigan
Thanks for checkin' in Dan! Pleasure meeting you at CPAC! Knew you'd be on top of this one!!! This bill hurts us all - they are trying to keep us from being able to pool our resources to criticize them before an election.
41 posted on 02/08/2002 5:35:01 PM PST by dittomom
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To: dittomom
On another thread there is a story from the media about how the FBI screwed up by not getting Johnny Taliban to confess in writing.

I know from past experience that the FBI almost never wants it in writing. That is not playing for an unconditional win. It is always the defense that wants it in writing. The FBI wants nothing in writing. What they want is five or six FBI agents testifying against one defendant.

So the defense lawyer says... the FBI screwed up because they didn't get it in writing. And the media reports it as if it were the truth. Some may even think it is the truth. But the editors know better. But that doesn't stop them from publishing it as if it were gospel.

It is also interesting to note that Clarity agreed with me on the matter His information comes from formal training in the law. Mine came from covering trials as a reporter.

Today there are few reporters with experience. When I was learning to cover courts I talked to Judges first, Prosecutors second and Defense lawyers third.

what I found out, is that Judges told me what the prosecution would try to pull and Judges also told me what the defense would try to pull. I was able to write stories that stood up over time.

In many cases the Prosecutors don't care about the cops (FBI) and the Defense wants to trash the cops(FBI). But if you talk to a judge not sitting in the case, you can get the real lowdown and beat the pants off your fellow reporters.

If you examine the record, you will find little of what is reported in the media stands up over time. But remember this, no reporter ever got paid for informing people accurately. Reporters get paid to draw readers, viewers and listeners. That has little to do with imparting accurate information.

42 posted on 02/08/2002 5:36:52 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: jtill
You are so right! We cannot take it for granted that a "benign" form of this leftislation will pass. Glad to hear you got a response back from your congresscritter although the words pristine and pure coming from a demoncrat are offensive to me!
43 posted on 02/08/2002 5:37:37 PM PST by dittomom
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To: dittomom
I'll add one thing. I'll go on ad campaigns myself 60 days before the election if this thing passes, and if they go after me, I'll see them in court.

I know I can line up a couple of lawyers on this, and can probably convince 2 good ones to back me, and a 3rd(who has argued the State Supremes) if I can get the funding.

This law is not worthy of being followed by me.

44 posted on 02/08/2002 5:39:59 PM PST by Dan from Michigan
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To: Common Tator
Reporters get paid to draw readers, viewers and listeners. That has little to do with imparting accurate information.

Exactly why this bill is so dangerous - it gives too much power to the media to inform us about the candidates.

45 posted on 02/08/2002 5:41:43 PM PST by dittomom
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To: dittomom
I don't think President Bush would sign anything like the current McCain-Feingold. During his campaign (and at other times) he laid out certain criteria that it must have, like "paycheck protection", which you know the RATS would never allow.

This whole thing is a Beltway issue. All polls indicate it's not even on the voters' radar screen and most of the sheep out there don't even know the difference between 'hard' and 'soft' money anyway.

I don't think a veto of a bad bill would hurt President Bush anyway, the leftist media would scream but who would remember (or care) way out there in 2004?? The better deal would be to kill this garbage as early on in the legislative process as possible so it never gets there.

That's what we work on now!

46 posted on 02/08/2002 6:36:17 PM PST by Commiewatcher
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To: dittomom
Only in Washington could a massive new federal bureaucracy be proposed, and constitutional freedoms stripped away, while supportive politicians are lauded by national newspaper editorials for having the “courage” to support “reform” legislation.

This says it all.
Thanks for the post.

47 posted on 02/08/2002 6:46:02 PM PST by Jean S
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To: gonzo
buuuuump!
48 posted on 02/08/2002 8:05:47 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
Thanks, babe...

"I wish, that, I knew what I know now,
When I was younger,
I wish, that, I knew what I know now,
When I was stronger..."

What a scary thought! Smootches, sweetheart. All my gifs are gone, and since I'm not worth-a-damn at this HTML stuff, it's gonna take some time, so Happy Valentines Day, Sandi!

Hugs-and-kisses for all you do, baby! Squeeze yer sweetie, beautiful........FRegards

49 posted on 02/08/2002 8:49:44 PM PST by gonzo
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To: Common Tator
I know from past experience that the FBI almost never wants it in writing. That is not playing for an unconditional win. It is always the defense that wants it in writing. The FBI wants nothing in writing. What they want is five or six FBI agents testifying against one defendant.

Ahhh, the joys of a police state. Freedom is slavery, lies are honesty, patriotism is treason and the Constitution is a threat.

50 posted on 02/08/2002 9:01:10 PM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: dittomom
This bill is coming up for a vote on Wednesday.
Be sure to contact your representative.
51 posted on 02/09/2002 2:23:00 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Cyber Liberty
I've been a bad boy lately, haven't I?

You've always been and then you got married to bad girl and now you are even badder! :)

52 posted on 02/09/2002 3:17:12 AM PST by Seeking the truth
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To: dittomom
Communicate! Let the Sons of....
53 posted on 02/09/2002 3:25:33 AM PST by samtheman
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To: backhoe
bump
54 posted on 02/09/2002 3:36:09 AM PST by IM2Phat4U
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To: gonzo
***McCain-Feingold is not “reform” legislation; it is incumbent protection legislation***

...and it is unconstitutional [if that matters any longer...]

[How did you get this thread to 'flag' me without typing in my name? ...interesting...]

55 posted on 02/09/2002 6:18:47 AM PST by B Ireland
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To: jtill
"No amendments should be attached, and it should be pristine and pure..." These entirely unrealistic conditions tell you what his real intent is.
56 posted on 02/09/2002 6:34:07 AM PST by thucydides
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To: Seeking the truth
Hoo boy....are WE in trouble now....
57 posted on 02/09/2002 7:35:55 AM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: gonzo
Bump!
58 posted on 02/09/2002 8:17:56 AM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: Matchett-PI
I hope some of you visit RealCampaignReform.Org and read the "What you should know" page. Its astounding what has already happened to our system of elections.

Remember that Eugene McCarthy [D] ran against the Viet Nam war. He was not supported by his party and therefore did not get a lot of press or support from his party. He has only a few donors. The current system put in place in the 70's actually silenced dissidents like Eugene McCarthy. It was all about keeping dissent out of the discussion. It worked except for a few guys like Ross Perot and Steve Forbes who used their own funds. They tried to silence them, too.

59 posted on 02/09/2002 12:22:08 PM PST by nsmart
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To: nsmart
www.RealCampaignReform.org

Didn't know about that site, thanks.

60 posted on 02/09/2002 2:33:26 PM PST by dittomom
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