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A Link To Global Crossing, Terry McAuliffe and AFL-CIO
SEC Edgar ^ | 02/09/02 | Myself

Posted on 02/09/2002 3:03:05 PM PST by Bayou City

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To: terilyn
Thanks for the heads up!
81 posted on 02/10/2002 10:15:09 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Mudboy Slim
Thanks for the heads up and the kind words! IMHO, the Department of Justice is on this like a frog on a June bug, but the best investigations are kept secret. Time will tell...
82 posted on 02/10/2002 10:21:35 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: antivenom
I hate to see folks getting their hopes up over GX, because there is simply nothing illegal or unethical in what TM did regarding his investment of $100k that resulted in a (reportedly) $18 million sale. He put his money at risk way before the IPO and sold near the high during the market's pricing bubble.

This was done by thousands and thousands of folks during 1999 - 2001. Many of those companies that produced stock option millionaires are today selling as low as 1% of their peak, and/or are bankrupt.

TM rode the wave in GX, he may have ridden the wave down in other issues. But, his GX profits are rightfully his.

Unless it is shown that TM's GX investment was either protected against loss or somehow effected illegally (such as backdated by a year or so) there is nothing here. That is how folks get rich on Wall Street. Then, even if it were to be shown to be improper in its design, a DIRECT link would then have to be established to a specific event to tie this to a political scandal.

You surely are aware that there are Republicans who also received very low cost GX stock?

The scam that has been performed on the investing public these past few years is huge, the largest ever, but it is not a political scandal. Few even understand or grasp its scope and I seriously doubt that we will ever see any of the guilty parties behind bars. The investment banks made BILLIONS with the IPO frenzy and their controlling of the pricing, distribution and promotion. Billions.

Recently, CSFB gladly agreed to pay 100 million to settle with the SEC and NASD. $100 million is chump change relative to the profits CSFB took in via fees, illegal commissions and principal trading transaction. CSFB sometimes made $100 million on the manipulated trading of a single issue.

The point is simply that TM's actions (that are publicly known) regarding GX are not improper or unethical. Chasing TM on this issue will prevent valid investigations into other areas of impropriety that may warrant the attention.

Just my opinion and I could be wrong, but I don't think so...

83 posted on 02/10/2002 11:04:17 AM PST by There's millions of'em
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To: There's millions of'em
INSIDER trading...and market manipulation with HEAVY political influenece is ILLEGAL...Terry has his hands full with his "investment"...BTW he never risked shit...he was basically GIVEN $100.000.00 in stock for FAVORS. We will soon learn of his favors...BUT get one thing straight HE DID NOT write a check to anyone for $100,000.00 to gamble legally in the stock market for THIS "GROSS" (as in disgusting) gain.
84 posted on 02/10/2002 1:50:25 PM PST by antivenom
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To: Mudboy Slim
Mud posted, ""Henry defends liars and rapists. Theft and fraud committed by a fellow-dimocrat don't even register on his radar.""

This is a dna requirement to be a demonicRat. To be a real demonicRat, you have to a total deficit of the genes that recognize honesty and the need to be honest. Then you have to total loyalty genes like the Germans had towards the Nazis during the 1930's / 1940's!

Nostrilitis is a prime example of the New National Socialists of America. He is totally amoral and is incapable of being honest. He like the first Nazis, has total loyalty to his fellow demonicRats. There is no crime that his fellow demonicRats can commit that he would even recognize let along withdraw his total allegiance.

85 posted on 02/10/2002 2:27:06 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: antivenom
If there is proof of the accusations you make, then there is reason to look for some sort of action.

Absent any proof, your accusations are baseless and reflect a lack of understanding of the workings of wall street.

Wishful thinking and baseless accusations weaken our postion.

86 posted on 02/10/2002 2:32:05 PM PST by There's millions of'em
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To: Elle Bee
This is your kind of scandle, you already have so much on Terry Mac.
87 posted on 02/10/2002 4:47:07 PM PST by CPT Clay
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To: There's millions of'em
Wishful thinking and baseless accusations weaken our postion.


CLINTON, ALBRIGHT AND WINNICK: "one of the most disgusting events I've endured "

Mother Jones | March 5, 2001 | Michael Scherer


Posted on 1/30/02 11:27 AM Pacific by Liz

Richard Reeves, the nationally syndicated newspaper columnist, remembers his introduction to Gary Winnick at "one of the most disgusting events I've endured in many years of watching the way the world works." The scene was a luncheon last August for the National Democratic Institute attended by President Bill Clinton, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, and a host of foreign dignitaries and big-time political donors.

As one of those donors, Winnick had paid for the lunch, and thus had been allotted time to address the gathering. "This egomaniac who could afford the tab got up and rambled on about how rich and daring he was and how great his kids were," writes Reeves. When Albright got up to speak, Winnick adorned her with a baseball cap bearing the corporate logo of his telecommunications company, Global Crossing. "It made you cringe to be a citizen of the world's greatest democracy," Reeves reports. "But that's the way it is these days."

Albright and Clinton had at least 133,000 reasons to grin their way through Winnick's performance: that's how many of his own dollars the corporate heavyweight gave to Democrats during the last election cycle. The donations were part of at least $1,265,268 that Global Crossing and its affiliates and executives gave the party. Republicans received almost as much from the company, including $185,000 from Winnick. Global Crossing has made no secret of its desire for returns on that investment beyond self-congratulatory luncheons.

Winnick founded Global Crossing in 1997, and has since raised over $20 billion in capital. The company plans to lay 100,000 miles of fiber-optic cable to 27 countries and 200 cities by the middle of this year. Last August, Forbes estimated Winnick's value at $3.2 billion. But that was when the company's stock was hovering around $32 a share. By February, it had plunged to barely $15.

A former employee of junk-bond king Michael Milken, Winnick also controls Pacific Capital Group, an investment firm that helped launch Global Crossing. In February, Pacific Capital agreed to acquire part of Loews Cinema as part of a bankruptcy restructuring. The group also has investments in a number of telecommunications and finance companies, including Nextwave Telecom, WorldPort Communications, Value America, and Aegis Consumer Funding Group.

Winnick harbors political interests beyond Washington. He has pledged $40 million of his wealth to build the Winnick Institution Jerusalem, which will focus on global issues of peace and tolerance. He also funds other pro-Israel programs, including one that sponsors Jewish-American students who wish to visit the country for the first time.

In 1997, Winnick hired Terry McAuliffe, Clinton's chief fundraiser, as a consultant. According to the New York Times, the $100,000 he paid McAuliffe turned into an $18 million windfall as McAuliffe's contacts helped Global Crossing's stock climb. In 1999, McAullife set up a golf gave between Clinton and Winnick, which ended with Winnick pledging $1 million for Clinton's presidential library.

88 posted on 02/10/2002 4:58:19 PM PST by MamaLucci
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To: Uncle Bill
FYI bump - figured you might appreciate this one.
89 posted on 02/10/2002 5:19:24 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: MamaLucci
And your point is...???

Big deal, you have posted 100% old public information.

Even your posted info discloses that GX gave equal $ to the Republican party. BUT, nothing illegal is even hinted at.

Don't allow "wanting to nail TM" color your reasoning process.

In America, corporations make big political donations to BOTH parties. Where is the crime? And don't try and justify a "crime" simply on the basis of how big a profit TM made. So far, nothing about the GX situation hints at illegality on TM's part.

90 posted on 02/10/2002 5:27:29 PM PST by There's millions of'em
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To: Bayou City
No I didn't send it to Drudge. Thanks for the suggestion, I'll do that right away!
91 posted on 02/10/2002 6:18:25 PM PST by terilyn
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To: Elle Bee
Great info! Thanks for digging.
92 posted on 02/10/2002 6:29:10 PM PST by terilyn
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To: Lion's Cub;Black Jade;Tumbleweed_Connection;*GlobalCrossing;Ernest_at_the_Beach; JohnHuang2...
Hi all....I wanted to post this to clear the air about GHWB stock sale in Global Crossing. Keep in mind that x41 was compensated in stock for a speech in lieu of his $80,000. fee. This is public information available for free on the internet.

Notices of Proposed Sale Reported on Form 144 of
BUSH GEORGE & BARBARA COMMUNITY PROP TRS Description
Filed on 11/19/1999 sale of 100,000 shares of Global Crossing
Filed on 03-15-2000 sale of 1,000 shares of Global Crossing
You can see it Here

The price of the stock around 11/19/1999 was about $45.00 a share according to this CHART.

93 posted on 02/10/2002 7:46:39 PM PST by Bayou City
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To: Bayou City
Thanks, I wanted to know what he sold (didn't) and an idea of profit (if any).
94 posted on 02/10/2002 8:17:14 PM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: There's millions of'em
I choose to ignore your rudeness just this once, and respond.

antivenom said:
..BTW he never risked shit...he was basically GIVEN $100.000.00 in stock for FAVORS. We will soon learn of his favors...BUT get one thing straight HE DID NOT write a check to anyone for $100,000.00 to gamble legally in the stock market for THIS "GROSS" (as in disgusting) gain.


YOU asked for proof that TM "didn't risk $hit", (in your usual rude manner):
If there is proof of the accusations you make, then there is reason to look for some sort of action.
Absent any proof, your accusations are baseless and reflect a lack of understanding of the workings of wall street.
Wishful thinking and baseless accusations weaken our postion.


I posted an article that states that the 100 grand Terry baby put up CAME FROM WINNICK himself:

In 1997, Winnick hired Terry McAuliffe, Clinton's chief fundraiser, as a consultant. According to the New York Times, the $100,000 he paid McAuliffe turned into an $18 million windfall as McAuliffe's contacts helped Global Crossing's stock climb.


"And your point is...???"

Well,GEE...if you read the bold sentences in each post above, S-L-O-W-L-Y, I'll bet you can figure it out.

I think the democrats BANKED on Algore winning.
I ALSO think that,sooner or later, your friend Terry, the DNC pimp, is going down.
Now, buzz off.
95 posted on 02/10/2002 8:20:38 PM PST by MamaLucci
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To: Bayou City
This looks like the Perfect Place for Registered's DNC Pimp.

DNC PIMP TERRY MCAULIFFE

96 posted on 02/10/2002 8:21:54 PM PST by stlrocket
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I forgot to mention that McAuliffe's name was nowhere to be found on the insider list. Kinda makes one wonder what he's trying to hide.
97 posted on 02/10/2002 8:47:37 PM PST by Bayou City
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To: Bayou City
Thanks for your #93. Got another question, though. He only took the stock in lieu of a speaking fee, so why is he considered an "insider"? He never sat on the board or anything, did he?
98 posted on 02/10/2002 9:04:09 PM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Lion's Cub
No he didn't sit on the board, my guess is that he received the stock before the IPO.
99 posted on 02/10/2002 9:23:10 PM PST by Bayou City
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To: MamaLucci
"I choose to ignore your rudeness just this once, and respond"

That's funny. I guess I shouldn't expect a response to this post (vbg).

Sorry to cloud your argument with facts, but TM isn't (as you state) my friend.

Obviously you are unaware that the payment for consulting services right here in the USA is often made using equity such as stock or options. And in the late 90's it was normal fare. Foe start ups it was the rule so as to coserve corporate cash. Pre IPO shares were the most desired of the lot.

The accusations of "insider trading" (actually, to be a crime the correct term is 'illegal insider trading')and "market manipulation" were claimed. As yet, neither you nor anyone else has provided ANYTHING that would support either accusation.

TM did not have the position or power to manipulate the market prices of GX, if you think he does or ever did, you need to do some homework.

Look, you may choose to believe me rude, so be it. But that does not change the FACT that what is known about TM's GX transaction (start to finish) does not reveal anything that is illegal or even unethical (Unethical in the realm of wall street and politics).

100 posted on 02/10/2002 9:38:27 PM PST by There's millions of'em
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