Posted on 02/28/2002 9:31:30 AM PST by Asmodeus
The URL of the Donaldson report I gave was:
twa800.com/final.pdf.
It was copied directly from the URL on my browser as I was reading that report.
Trying to access that report soon after I posted the URL, I got a response saying that the link to that report is now broken. Pretty obviously, someone is determined that the public will not have access to Donaldson's report in its original form or to the original FDR data.
Nevertheless, other sites have preserved the original FDR data. That data and a readable analysis of it can also be found on the following URL:
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/CRASH/TWA/OVERPRESSURE/overpress.html
What that FDR data showed was a large number of changes in the flight parameters recorded by the FDR in its last second that are incompatible with anything resembling normal flight but, when analyzed together, are entirely consistent with an explosion taking place in close proximity to the aircraft.
Note to everyone: the wiring bringing that data from the control area and electronics bay of the airplane to its FDR, which is located in the rear of the plane, passes by the center fuel tank and would have been severed by an explosion of that tank BEFORE the effects of any explosion of the center tank would have reached the sensors involved and BEFORE it could have been recorded by the FDR.
It is VERY disturbing to me that a post to you involving this information would lead to SOMEONE breaking the link to that information.
The only ones you will see are the ones that parrot the government line or version. They probably weren't no where the scene.
You sound like the knight from Monty Python's The Holy Grail who is flopping around on the ground after losing all his limbs telling the guy who chopped all his limbs off to come back and fight.
Let me quote from the Accuracy in Media website: "Accuracy In Media is a non-profit, grassroots citizens watchdog of the news media that critiques botched and bungled news stories and sets the record straight on important issues that have received slanted coverage". Irvine, (one of the leading advocates of the missile theory and chairman of the organization that provides funding for Donaldson's site), is duped by a story so ridiculous it took most folks seconds to figure out it was a lie. The man who has become the self-appointed figurehead for ensuring "accuracy" in the media publishes a story that requires so little research to debunk that he did it himself after making just a few phone calls. Then, after a month's worth of wild accusations he publishes a clintonian mea culpa in which he waits until the last paragraph to state the obvious..."He lied to me, and I regret having been deceived by him." But without missing a beat he quickly adds "But his lie is nothing compared to our governments lies about TWA 800."
And your only reponse to that is to pat him on the back for publishing a retraction, and then call anyone who doesn't believe his tripe "desperate".
Hmmm. Let's see. After a little research I see a freeper named Dr. Luv was the first to point out flaws in Irvine's article when the story was first published on 31 Jan 2002. A6Intruder followed minutes later. I chimed in just minutes later on the same date. I notice I was the first to question Irvine's second article on 28 Feb. My quote then..."I see Irvine is caught in a lying death spiral" followed a post or two later by "Bottomline, Irvine is a fraud. His witness created a story that is almost impossible to believe, and Irvine bit off on it, hook line and sinker. So much for accuracy in the media."
So now Irvine has finally done his research and figured out what Freepers knew for over month. Damn he's good.
Anyway, I guess we're going with the expert FDR analysis that says the last second of tape records an overpressure event. Looking at the graphically plotted data of the FDR data on page 52 of the NTSB exhibit 10A you will note that absolutely every parameter recorded by the FDR is spiked at 20:31:12. That includes elevator position, rudder position, pitch trim, heading and the VHF mic switch position, as well as the instruments sensitive to outside pressure. In fact the flight control parameters indicate changes that are impossible for controls on a 747 to achieve in 1 second. And how about that roll rate of 144 degrees per second. Most fighters can't do that. The heading changes 81 degrees in one second?!? All of which is attributed to the explosion of a 12' diameter warhead exploding 63' from the airplane. That obviously excludes all shoulder launched missiles, so the missile must have been radar guided. Only the Standard missile could have a warhead of that size. But its warhead is designed to throw a wall of pellets toward its target, which would leave clear signs of impact (try hundreds of large penetrations all over the forward section of the airplane) and that is assuming the fuze would even function 63' from the aircraft (a very big assumption). So, we can believe that a warhead blew up near the aircraft and ignore the FDR data that doesn't make sense, or we can believe that all the data recorded in that last second was faulty either due to it being from a previous flight, or some other electrical glitch stemming from power being cut to the FDR when the CWT exploded. I'm sure you can guess what my opinion is.
Nice use of CAPS by the way. Are you getting a little frustrated.
That's not fair. I thought we were just going to talk about the 1 second of data showing a missile explosion. You non-tank sparkers need to pick one theory and go with it.
"Spend more quality time with her and the kids and less time here, because your not doing anything on these posts but looking like an idiot. I would certainly not brag about your flying status cause personally I don't think you can."
Hey, at least this idiot didn't fall head over heals for the crap Irvine is spreading. But again, I sense some frustration. My invitation for beers and curds stands. Maybe I'll see you at OshKosh. You can read my log books then.
You mean like this?
For cryin' out loud, if you're going to rant in all caps, at least learn how to spell.
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