[LS]

When I tried to find this article earlier in the year, I couldn't find it on the newpaper's web site. More important, we do not HAVE the actual study, so this smacks of a false report.

I sincerely hope it is a real study, but I'm skeptical.

[SheLion]

I sincerely hope it is a real study, but I'm skeptical.

It's a real study. It's been yanked from the net. Any thoughts on why? eh?

I have a few thoughts!!

[Gabz]

Your scepticsm is understandable.

Here is a link to the abstract of the study, originally published in the Jounal of the Nationall Cancer Institute:

Multicenter case-control study of exposure to environmental tobacco smoke and lung Cancer in Europe

This was one of the largest, most comprehensive studies done. It was done by the International Agency for Reasearch on Cancer. (IARC)

[Tumbleweed_Connection]

Hey buddy, try all you like to find it this year, you won't. The dateline is 3/8/98, be my guest and look for it there. I realize how important it is to HAVE the actual study on your browser.

Anything else I can answer, please let me know.

[Max McGarrity]

When I tried to find this article earlier in the year, I couldn't find it on the newpaper's web site. More important, we do not HAVE the actual study, so this smacks of a false report.

Posting this before reading the next 200+ messages, I know I'm running a big risk of being redundant, but yes, we DO have the actual study.

This article was published in 1998 when the results of the IARC study were leaked to the reporter. The honchos in the anti movement (Glantz, Repace, Daynard, et al) came out swinging. Since they hadn't seen the study they had only this article to go on, but they screeched "This is garbage science!" "The science is obviously flawed..." "the study sample was obviously too small" and on and on and on.

A couple of weeks later, WHO sent out its own press release, attempting to heal the rift between themselves and their cheering section. The headlines screamed: PASSIVE SMOKING DOES CAUSE LUNG CANCER--DO NOT LET THEM FOOL YOU! in huge black type in virtually every major paper in the country.

Bear in mind, the actual statistics of the study didn't change at all, from the Telegraph's first publication to the final sweep by WHO. But the very same anti-smoker gurus suddenly began to tout the study to the skies!

Interestingly, on WHO's own website is an allegedly compelling list of studies purporting to PROVE the harm done by environmental tobacco smoke, but their very own IARC study was conveniently omitted.

And even MORE interestingly, just last month or so, WHO gathered up a bunch of anti-smoker "scientists" from around the world to create a "report" (not a study) that used meta-analysis of selected "studies" to determine shs is even MORE dangerous than they'd previously thought!!! Imagine that!

Now the press release about that "report" is being used as "proof," even though the meta-analysis won't be released until next year and even the Abstract isn't yet available. Can you say "conclusions without foundation," children?

And they wonder why those of us with the curiosity to search for the truth and the intelligence to understand it have no faith in the establishment.

[hinckley buzzard]

You will notice that this came out four years ago. If the study had found the link it was seeking, you can bet it would have been distributed widely and given major play in the media.