The New Conservative Divide: Paleocons versus Neocons

AmericanDaily.com ^ | Mon Apr 21, 2003 | Rachel Alexander

[stuartcr]

Why this obsession on labels? Is it for statistical purposes?

[My2Cents]

Paleoconservatism is defined in the American Heritage Dictionary as, “extremely stubborn or stubbornly conservative in politics.”

While there are ideological distinctives, it seems that the biggest driving force among the paleos is that they are simply stubborn and cranky. It's a personality thing as well as ideological.

[Huck]

I am starting a new group. Nouveau-cons. I am not sure what we stand for yet, but I'm working on it.

[new cruelty]

[billbears]

Neoconservatism emerged in the 1970s, as a reaction to the radical leftist agenda of the 1960’s. Neoconservatives were more interested in challenging the hippies and activists than dismantling the entrenched programs of the New Deal

Bump. And still true today

[new cruelty]

More than meets the eye...

[fporretto]

Let's not forget Rod Dreher's "crunchy-cons": conservatives whose lifestyle choices (e.g., granola, New Agey music and art) could get them mistaken for San Francisco liberals.

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[MattinNJ]

BTTT for a later read.

[KantianBurke]

a more appropriate label for Paleo cons are "Charles Lindberg" conservatives after the famed 1930's aviator- hates Jews, hates trade and thinks there's no threat to our national security whatsoever from _____ the dictator.

[mhking]

PING!

[Constitution Day]

An "At Least It's Not Yet Another Laci Peterson thread" BUMP.

[stuartcr]

I joined nouveau-retros for a while, but I got dizzy because all we did was go in circles.

[Consort]

Of course, the views or Neopaleoconservatives and the paleoneoconservatives have to be taken into consideration, as well.

[Consort]

....but I tend to ignore metaconservatives.

[billbears]

Paleo cons are "Charles Lindberg" conservatives after the famed 1930's aviator- hates Jews, hates trade and thinks there's no threat to our national security whatsoever from _____ the dictator.

Well as a paleocon that doesn't hate the Jewish people and is in full support of Free Trade I suggest you change your label because it's quite wrong. There are a few on the paleocon side that may agree with your premise, but far fewer than you would think

[Search4Truth]

My head hurts.

[Huck]

nouveau-retros

Also known as neo-nouveau.

[jd777]

Several articles showing up with this thesis: "paleoconservatism is dead."

Were not talking about the democrat party here, mind you. We're talking "paleo" conservatives are dead. No, not liberalism. No not the united nations. No, not 'old europe'... the real enemy, the paleo-conservatives are dead. These neocons are like liberals, they think if you put a negative name on somehing ( 'paleo') and than say it's dead... it actually means it's going away.

I don't think so...