Pedophiles Seek Online Support, Societal Acceptance

CNSNews.com ^ | 6/13/03 | Steve Brown

[GrandMoM]

....what little I could read of Pedophilla Chic (the print was really small, so I used printer friendly version) has described only one mention of decent which was:
"It should go without saying, though under the circumstances it cannot, that many, many leaders and members of that movement draw a firm line at consenting adults, want no part of any such "debate," and are in fact disgusted and appalled by it."
so I will not post until I completely read the article. Thanks

[najida]

But when did it become all about boys?

What I find funny is no one is gettin' their panties in a wad over the little girls gettin' felt up by the 'straight' Santas....

[A_perfect_lady]

Tell me, these fine upstanding members of the opposite sex who molest girls in your town... are they or are they not considered "heterosexual"?

[kuma]

Boys are often too ashamed to come forward as it is easier for girls to admit that they were victimized.

Many cases of sexual abuse with boys is usually revealed after he has already reached adulthood.

Sexual abuse towards girls has much the same effect though. Self-esteem, guilt, shame, prostitution, lesbianism (so as to aviod male/female sex which may bring back painful memories), drug & alcohol abuse etc...

It's always a tragedy even if the person who was sexually abused doesn't recognize it as such. It has life altering consequences that can SEEM beyond the control of the person who has expierenced it.

[Houmatt]

Ah, another one who says homosexuals are born, and yet cannot produce anything to back it up.

I, however, can prove it is in fact a choice by providing a single link.

[Qwerty]

"But can they reproduce other homosexuals?"

LOL.. yes SOMETIMES they do produce other homosexuals. And if you're right and they don't, then that is quite puzzling, don't you think? Why would homosexuals be successful in recruiting children in schools, but not their own children? Your logic falls apart so quickly...

"BA-LONEY! I have seen and heard about some of the stuff that is being given and shown to schoolkids like Heather Has Two Mommies, Gloria Goes To Gay Pride and It's Elementary, not to mention Fistgate."

Fistgate was a private conference, and was mostly attended by adults. All students who attended had to have PARENTAL PERMISSION to attend. Now, show me someone who says "Heather had two mommies" or "Gloria goes to gay pride" made them homosexual.

"So you can hand that BS to somebody else."

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's BS.

[A_perfect_lady]

In part it's "all about boys" because no one I know denies that a man who wants to fondle a girl is still heterosexual. Oh, he's a pedophile all right, but he's considered "straight." It's when a guy goes after a preteen boy that things suddenly get very opaque, and he's not to be called "gay." It's sort of like Christians who say that no Christian would ever (fill in the blank: murder, rape, etc). Then when you say, well, here are some examples, they say, "Well, he obviously wasn't a true Christian! And my statement stands unassailed, no Christian would ever blah blah blah."

You have gays stating flatly that gays are not more likely to molest boys (although they seem indeed to be more likely.) When gays manage to get boy-molesting reclassified as something-not-gay, they have a better chance of convincing us to hand our children over to spend the night with William the Gay Scoutmaster.

[Qwerty]

"Ah, another one who says homosexuals are born, and yet cannot produce anything to back it up."

Oh, now I get it. You can't read. I have said before as well as in this thread that I can not prove that homosexuality is genetic. However, my personal experiences tell me that it IS genetic.

You're the one who is saying there is no chance of a genetic component, which means that the burden of proof is upon you to prove a negative. What a fun situation you've put yourself in.

"I, however, can prove it is in fact a choice by providing a single link."

You think a humorous book is proof? Figures.

[LanPB01]

It became all about boys when the usual list of gay bashing nitwits started demanding to know what the homos were going to do about the pedophiles, as if they have a monolopy on them.

[najida]

OK,

because I 'am' speaking from my experience and from childhood memories,

Sitting here recalling my childhood, I can think of at least a 6 instances (about 7 girls) that involved fathers, principles, family friends, uncles, step-fathers etc. No one talked about it much....but we all were in the same school...
Mothers moved away taking the girls,
pregnant girls where shipped off to homes,
People were fired and then disappeared,
hysterical teens tried to kill themselves....

But I don't remember it really being discussed openly.

So my perspective is very different.

[LanPB01]

It appears your finishing school must have overlooked a few lessons on reading comprehension. Nowhere did I state homos can't be pedophiles. They can, and should be dealt with as severly as hetero pedophiles.

[kuma]

I think both of you are conveniently ignoring my posts, which are not about just boys, but girls, hetero/sexual disorder (including same sex attraction) and the cause/effect of pedophilia (pre-pubescent) epheblophilia sp? (pubescent), sexual predation.

[najida]

I answered your last post....
As someone who has been molested and lived in a society as a child were it was not only prevelant...but kept pretty fickin' quiet.

No, girls DIDN'T talk about it 30 plus years ago

[kuma]

I know 2 little girls that were molested. One of them systematically for about 3 years before anyone found out. On my street by the same man when I was 7 years old.

It was plenty talked about. I come from a conservative community though. Maybe that is the problem in your area.

[LanPB01]

I'm not ignoring your posts, I just haven't had time to read them all. I agree with your theory that there could be a genetic pre-disposition towards homosexuality. My only complaint with this thread was that it started as a rant against pedophiles, then a few people started demanding homos show up to defend this article (as if they were the root cause of all pedophilia).

[kuma]

We've been posting at the same time so I missed your reply.

I think boys are often brought up because of the recent homosexual priest scandal. The main reason why so many are screeching homosexual is because MOST all of the boys were abused by openly homosexual men and MOST of the boys had already reached puberty.

But you wouldn't know those FACTS by watching the media.

[kuma]

Yes I know with all the pedophilia garbage that seems to be coming up lately somehow it always ends up into another debate. I'm guilty of that as well. I start of on track but when you get in the midst of it things start to veer and spin out of control.

I blame both sides of the debate for that.

[SSN558]

Pedophiles can obtain socital acceptance, and assume roles such as teachers, police, and medical professionals. All that is required is a simple medical procedure.

[kuma]

I start of on track

MEANS

I start OFF on track

[Houmatt]

Oh, now I get it. You can't read. I have said before as well as in this thread that I can not prove that homosexuality is genetic. However, my personal experiences tell me that it IS genetic.

As I am sure your personal experiences tell you the world is flat, and the moon landings were faked.

That does not mean squat around here, because there is no existing scientific evidence homosexuality has anything whatsoever to do with genetics. Period. Since you are asserting otherwise (albeit from "personal experience"), it is up to you to back it up.

You think a humorous book is proof?

You mean like something written by Dave Barry? Uh, no, that book is not a humor book. The approach may be, but the book is not promoted as humor or satire. Furthermore, only one of the authors have put out any other book, which just happens to be a collection of lesbian erotica.

Sorry, Charlie, but your attempt to dismiss a book that blatantly implies choice in sexual orientation has failed, and miserably, I might add.

Go back ten yards and try again.