Pedophiles Seek Online Support, Societal Acceptance

CNSNews.com ^ | 6/13/03 | Steve Brown

[Qwerty]

"Are you sure you spelled your user name corretly?"

Yes.

"Qwerty. You meant Queertoo, right."

Haha.. is this supposed to be stinging? Try harder.

[Houmatt]

I said this before, and I will say it again: Right after Rush Limbaugh's second book was released in hardcover, I picked it up. He wrote the next group of people that would make the next "civil rights" push would be the transgendered community. I made a point of telling everyone I knew that was familiar with Rush that I thought he actually was wrong on that one. I said the next in line would be the pedophiles.

Sure enough, ten years later, Rush is wrong, and I am right.

One point for me, I'd guess.

But as God is my witness, I wish I was wrong.

This just sickens me in ways that defy description.

[Houmatt]

BTW, Women who become pregnant from rape make up a very small percentage and I don't necessarily believe that being raped and becoming pregnant from the horror = automatic abortion.

More than that, abortions in cases of rape and incest make up only one percent of all abortions performed annually.

[John O]

"Seeing as 'homosexuals do not reproduce, they recruit."

Faulty premise.

Then why are the 'homosexuals' constantly trying to get access to children? Why is it that most 'homosexuals' had their first experience with a much older person (that is, they were molested).

There is no genetic basis for homnosexual behavior. It is a chosen (albeit subconsciously in most cases) behavior due to mental illness or damage.

[Houmatt]

I would strongly suggest you see the film In The Bedroom if you really want an idea on how to take care of a molester of your children and get away with it.

[kuma]

The following is for those who cannot seem to comprehend that sexual abuse can directly lead to something that is now culturally celebrated as being diverse.

I don't think that all homosexuals are pedophiles, but a large number of themselves were abused. They just might not recognize it for what it is. For those that weren't abused gender confusion and family relations (esp. fathers) were the contributing factor.

CAUSE

Approximately one in six boys is sexually abused before age 16.

(Conservative estimate of incidents involving physical contact in U.S. and Canada. See below.)

EFFECT

Anger
Fear
Homosexuality Issues
Helplessness
Isolation and Alienation
Legitimacy
Loss
Masculinity Issues
Negative Childhood Peer Relations
Negative Schemas about People
Negative Schemas about the Self
Problems with Sexuality
Self Blame/Guilt
Shame/Humiliation

My source:
http://www.jimhopper.com/male-ab/

MORE EFFECT

Drs. Robert L. Johnson and Diane K. Shrier reported on "a six year experience in an adolescent medicine clinic in which all medical interviews of adolescent males included questions about sexual molestation. Forty adolescent males reported sexual victimization during their preadolescent years. This study group of forty was compared to a randomly selected age-matched group whose responses were negative to the same questions." ["Sexual Victimization of Boys: Experience at an Adolescent Medicine Clinic," Journal of Adolescent Health Care, Vol. 6, No. 5, (1985), p. 372] Those who had been molested "identified themselves as currently homosexual nearly seven times as often and bisexual nearly six times as often" as those who had not been molested. [ibid., p. 374]

Source:
http://members.aol.com/hawebpage2/news/n0898b.html#N0898B

The buzzword homophobia is often blamed for the self-esteem problems in the "homosexual" community. I think sexual abuse is far more likely.

[Qwerty]

"Then why are the 'homosexuals' constantly trying to get access to children?"

Be more specific... in what ways do you think homosexuals are trying to gain access to children?

"Why is it that most 'homosexuals' had their first experience with a much older person"

You're building the premise into the question. First you need to show that most homosexuals have their first experience with a much older person, then you can argue about whether it means that children are "recruited". My personal experiences lead me to believe that you're wrong.

"There is no genetic basis for homnosexual behavior."

You have no proof of that. Most Freepers who share your opinion will tell you that you can't conclusively claim there is no genetic component.

"It is a chosen (albeit subconsciously in most cases) behavior due to mental illness or damage."

That's your opinion, and it remains unproven.

[Houmatt]

Bullfeathers, cowboy.

You know as well as I homosexuals cannot reproduce (for obvious reasons) and so they have opted instead to teach their "lifestyle" in public schools to children as young as 5, and you have the audacity to say they do not recruit?

Who is the "reality molester," afthole?

[Houmatt]

You have no proof of that. Most Freepers who share your opinion will tell you that you can't conclusively claim there is no genetic component.

And I am sure you can show otherwise, right? Then do it. Put up or shut up.

[Qwerty]

"Bullfeathers, cowboy."

Cowgirl.

"You know as well as I homosexuals cannot reproduce (for obvious reasons)"

First of all, plenty of homosexuals DO reproduce. Ever met someone who used to be married, had kids, and then came out? Happens all the time. Secondly, many lesbians get pregnant deliberately and have kids. So you're wrong right off the bat... which probably isn't all that unusual for you.

Another possibility you aren't considering is that homosexuality could be a recessive trait. Also you've left out the possibility that it is hormonal conditions in the mother while pregnant that lead to homosexuality... and in that case there is no need for homosexuals to "reproduce".

"and so they have opted instead to teach their "lifestyle" in public schools to children as young as 5, and you have the audacity to say they do not recruit?"

Yes. I am telling you that while you may find teaching "diversity" in schools distasteful, it does NOT create homosexuals.

"Who is the "reality molester," afthole?"

Not you. You're just ignorant.

[jhw61]

Thank you for the info. I do speak of some experience concerning homosexuals. My homosexual brother died of AIDS at the age of 44 nine years ago.

[Qwerty]

"And I am sure you can show otherwise, right? Then do it. Put up or shut up."

Yes. Saying there is "NO GENETIC COMPONENT" means that they fully understand human genetics and there is absolutely no chance of a genetic component, which is a bunk claim. You don't have to take my word for it, just read the threads. I can't prove that there IS a genetic component, but you can't prove that there isn't.

Do your own homework.

There are well thought and researched posts on FR about homosexuality, but none of them have come from you.

[GrandMoM]

....I am checking it out!

[A_perfect_lady]

"a loving mentor (gardener) who is willing to carefully fertilize and tend to the growth of the emotions, spirit and intellectual flora of the garden of a child's soul."

... with his penis. Hm. Well. At least, unlike the "boy lovers," they won't get fertilizer in their spade.

[kuma]

I can't say there is much I agree on with Qwerty about. However, I do think their may be some genetic "predisposition". WHAT??? What do I mean by predispositon? Do I mean a Homosexual Gene? NO!

A predisposition in personality/temperment. Anyone who has ever had children realizes the very first day that their little bundle of joy has a personality. Some are screamers, some whiners and both of mine were whimperers (THANK GOD) and I'm sure there are many other kinds.

Other than that though everything else is LEARNED BEHAVIOR.

Children must be taught their gender.
Children must be taught gender relations (Daddy & Mommy)
Children must be taught their sexuality.
The above two greatly contribute to this.
Children must be taught respect for others sexual privacy.
Everyone knows children live in their own universe ME & MINE & CURIOSITY RULES.

Most of those things must be learned before puberty. Everyone here ought to know how confusing puberty is let alone being unclear about any of the above.

When a sexual predator interferes, even a loving family environment cannot fix ALL the damage done.

Hetero/sexual disorders, including same sex attraction, isn't a "conscious" choice but it is not the product of a completed childhood. Dysfuntional (mild to extreme) families are the largest contributing factor.

If their is a genetic "factor" it is very small indeed and can be outweighed with completing everything a child needs to learn in their upbringing.

[najida]

In my experience, molestation has been by a heterosexual adult of the opposite sex. Usually a relative, family friend, or a fine upstanding member of the community that NO one would suspect...

Granted,
Just my experience as a girl.....

[A_perfect_lady]

Since you brought up the Catholic Church, I don't suppose you could explain how a full 90% of the sex abuse incidents in the Catholic Church involved men on boys.

Shh.... we weren't supposed to notice that.

[Houmatt]

First of all, plenty of homosexuals DO reproduce. Ever met someone who used to be married, had kids, and then came out? Happens all the time. Secondly, many lesbians get pregnant deliberately and have kids. So you're wrong right off the bat... which probably isn't all that unusual for you.

But can they reproduce other homosexuals? No, which is what I am talking about, but you knew that.

Yes. I am telling you that while you may find teaching "diversity" in schools distasteful, it does NOT create homosexuals.

BA-LONEY! I have seen and heard about some of the stuff that is being given and shown to schoolkids like Heather Has Two Mommies, Gloria Goes To Gay Pride and It's Elementary, not to mention Fistgate.

So you can hand that BS to somebody else.

[murdoog]

The website notes that "true emancipation" lies "in a child's sublime assent to becoming self actualized with the keen-eyed help of a loving mentor (gardener) who is willing to carefully fertilize and tend to the growth of the emotions, spirit and intellectual flora of the garden of a child's soul."

This would make me gag even if children weren't involved.

[A_perfect_lady]

Then go talk about the pedophiles. This thread should actually BE about pedophiles, but oddly enough, every thread that relates to sex on FreeRepublic ends up with some social conservative screaming how every fault in society is somehow the blame of the queers.

Interesting, isn't it? Men who are fascinated with 15 year old boys aren't gay, see? What? Gay? What does this have to do with homosexuality? No, no, no.... you aren't gay till the boy is 16, see? If he's 14 or 15, you're just a pedophile. No relation to gays at all. I mean, really, gays? Who brought up gays? Why gays? What does this have to do with gays? Ha. God these people are full of crap.