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Don't Tell Me Obama Isn't A Marxist
The Patriot Room ^ | June 14, 2008 | Bill Dupray

Posted on 06/14/2008 8:38:24 AM PDT by Bill Dupray

Photos and video. First a flag of Commie thug, Che Guevara appears on the wall of Obama's campaign office. Now a judge has a Che picture on the wall right next to an Obama picture. Communists advocate the overthrow of the United States. These people support Obama, agree with his policies, and want him to win.

What the hell is going on?

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TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties
KEYWORDS: 2008; barackobama; cheguevara; communist; marxists

1 posted on 06/14/2008 8:38:25 AM PDT by Bill Dupray
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To: Bill Dupray

They’ve reached critical mass, and they know the takeover is about to begin. They know that no one will call them on it anymore, so they can decalre themselves openly. They won the youth, they own the courts and the media, they control the message, and the population.


2 posted on 06/14/2008 8:45:39 AM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Bill Dupray

who is the judge and how do we get hold of him? i.e. e-mail, phone etc..


3 posted on 06/14/2008 8:46:32 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.liberallunacy.bravehost.com..I'm a Patriot Guard Rider. www.patriotguard.org for info.)
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To: Bill Dupray

“don’t tell me obama isn’t a marxist...”

sure, i’ll tell ya. obama isn’t a marxist.

he’s a marxist-leninist.

IMHO (ready with a cadre of brilliant, self-appointed marxist thugs who are going to make paradise on earth.)

IMHO


4 posted on 06/14/2008 8:49:54 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Old Sarge
They’ve reached critical mass, and they know the takeover is about to begin. They know that no one will call them on it anymore, so they can decalre themselves openly. They won the youth, they own the courts and the media, they control the message, and the population.

They still have to get the guns away from us rednecks. That would be Barack Mugabe Hussien's next order of business.

5 posted on 06/14/2008 8:51:31 AM PDT by CPOSharky (Vote demoncrat: Kiss goodby to your money, privacy, freedom, and guns.)
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To: Bill Dupray

Barak Obama............Manchurian Candidate.
Allah Akhbar !!!


6 posted on 06/14/2008 8:56:49 AM PDT by IrishMike (I am not a Republican first. I am a conservative.)
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To: CPOSharky
They still have to get the guns away from us rednecks. That would be Barack Mugabe Hussien's next order of business.

I hear big talk like this on every thread - and that's all it is. There will be no Second Civil War, there will be no Second Confederacy, and there will be no popular uprising.

How do I know this? Look around you. The Sheep don't care.

7 posted on 06/14/2008 8:57:42 AM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Bill Dupray

many of my democrat-tv-viewer friends are marxists

and they don’t know it.


8 posted on 06/14/2008 8:59:22 AM PDT by ken21 ( people die + you never hear from them again.)
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To: Old Sarge

Well said.

And the only way to stall or avoid this is to openly call them out and let them rant about being exposed for what they are. They will attempt to demonize anyone who does this but the stakes are way too high now for political correctness.

The American public is in a dream state and unable to comprehend that there are marxist/commies in our mist that advocate the overthrow of our country.

As you say, “They won the youth, they own the courts and the media, they control the message, and the population.”

Without fear of loss Delay quipped the other day that Obama was a marxist. No follow-up or mention by the media.

Periodic mention of the truth is not enough. A concerted effort is required NOW. It’ll take alot more than just looking around and asking who has the b***s to put forth such an effort.

Time is short.


9 posted on 06/14/2008 9:11:25 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: ripley

“he’s a marxist-leninist.”

Obama’s response:

“Sticks and stones...
Besides, all my followers are. They have been around in America for decades and you didn’t do anything about them because of the First Amendment.
So why the outrage now?”


10 posted on 06/14/2008 9:11:41 AM PDT by 353FMG (What marxism and fascism could not destroy, liberalism did.)
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To: Bill Dupray
Lets see now -- we have Raul Castro, Hugo Chevaz and Hamas supporting a candidate that has a picture of a MARXIST THUG and MURDERER in his campaign office.

Now we have a judge with B. Hussein Mugabe Castro Osama Obama picture on the wall next to said MARXIST THUG AND MURDERER!

Now, you guys who are NOT VOTING for McCain, Want to see that JUDGE being nominated for SCOTUS by PRESIDENT HUSSIEN MUGABE CASTRO OSAMA OBAMA? Bet he has a deal for that.

11 posted on 06/14/2008 9:28:57 AM PDT by EagleandLiberty (El Rushbo Tribal name -- RinoHunter Coming Soon - a new CONSERVATIVE PARTY --- www.falconparty.com)
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To: Bill Dupray
The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine
Monday , May 5, 2008
FoxNews/Hannity's America
[special Friday night edition--original airdate May 2, 2008]

(some key excerpts)

JOSE DIAZ-BALART, TELEMUNDO NETWORK: "Liberation theology in Nicaragua in the mid-1980's was a pro-Sandinista, pro-Marxist, anti-U.S., anti-Catholic Church movement. That's it. No ifs, ands, or buts. His church apparently supported, in the mid-'80s in Nicaragua, groups that supported the Sandinista dictatorships and that were opposed to the Contras whose reason for being was calling for elections. That's all I know. I was there.

I saw the churches in Nicaragua that he spoke of, and the churches were churches that talked about the need for violent revolution and I remember clearly one of the major churches in Managua where the Jesus Christ on the altar was not Jesus Christ, he was a Sandinista soldier, and the priests talked about the corruption of the West, talked about the need for revolution everywhere, and talked about 'the evil empire' which was the United States of America."

REV. BOB SCHENCK, NATIONAL CLERGY COUNCIL: "it's based in Marxism. At the core of his [Wright's] theology is really an anti-Christian understanding of God, and as part of a long history of individuals who actually advocate using violence in overthrowing those they perceive to be oppressing them, even acts of murder have been defended by followers of liberation theology. That's very, very dangerous."

SCHENCK: "I was actually the only person escorted to Dr. Wright. He asked to see me, and I simply welcomed him to Washington, and then I said Dr. Wright, I want to bring you a warning: your embrace of Marxist liberation theology. It is contrary to the Gospel, and you need, sir, to abandon it. And at that he dropped the handshake and made it clear that he was not in the mood to dialogue on that point."

Source: The Real Story Behind Rev. Wright's Controversial Black Liberation Theology Doctrine:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html

From "45 Communist Goals":
#27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion.
http://www.uhuh.com/nwo/communism/comgoals.htm

Louis Farrakhan, at the Millions More Movement rally in DC, Oct 15, 2005: "...what Mao Tse Tung did was, he went to the cultural community, and they [Farrakhan spreads his arms beneficently] accepted his idea."..."Mao Tse Tung ... had a billion people whose lives he had to transform."..."the idea of Mao Tse Tung became the idea of a billion people, and China became a world power on the base of the culture and the arts community. If we had a ministry of art and culture in every city we'd create this movement [in the U.S.]."
Source: http://thedrunkablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/communist-plot-noted.html

Louis Farrakhan, Santiago de Cuba, February, 1998: "There is not a member of the black masses in the United States who is not proud of the example set by Cuba and its revolution, with Comandante Fidel at its head"
Source: http://www.fiu.edu/~fcf/farakhan21898.html#says

Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright, Obama's pastor and spirtual advisor "crazy uncle" of more than 20 years, honors "Honorable" Minister Louis Farrakhan with the "Jeremiah A. Wright Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer Award" at the 2007 Trumpet Gala held at the Hyatt Regency Chicago.
[it appears the original video was removed, but this one is identical to it]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW2OhkZ0RSg

Louis Farrakhan, at the annual Saviours' Day celebration in Chicago, Feb. 25, 2008: "This young man is the hope of the entire world that America will change and be made better"..."If you look at Barack Obama's audiences and look at the effect of his words, those people are being transformed."
Source: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=4337417

This (below) was a REAL New Black Panther Party endorsement that was actually up on Obama's website for some period of time. They have since removed it. The material below is stuff I've been collecting on Black Liberation Theology, the Nation of Islam and both the new and old Black Panther Partys. Credit to 'LibertyRocks' for saving and sharing the NBPP/Obama screenshot.

From the Louis Farrakhan/Nation of Islam website, Final Call...
Malik Zulu Shabazz, chairman of the New Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (NBPP):
"We are happy today to be standing side by side with the Nation of Islam. We believe, like the Nation of Islam and the Honorable Elijah Muhammad believe, in a nation of our own. We believe in a Black first philosophy and a Black Liberation Theology. We don’t worry about the criticism. We love all of those who labored in the Panther Party from the ’60s. Many are with us today."
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_1858.shtml

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From the Maoist Internationist Movement:
[1960s] Black Panther Party [BPP] Archives
From the article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROES

excerpt...

"On May 1st, May Day [1969], the day of the gigantic Free Huey rally, two of Alioto's top executioners vamped on the brothers from the Brown Community who were attending to their own affairs. These brothers, who are endowed with the revolutionary spirit of the Black Panther Party defended themselves from the racist pig gestapo.

Pig Joseph Brodnik received his just reward with a big hole in the chest. Pig Paul McGoran got his in the mouth which was not quite enough to off him.

The revolutionary brothers escaped the huge swarm of pigs with dogs, mace, tanks and helicopters, proving once again that "the spirit of the people is greater than the man's technology."

To these brothers the revolutionary people of racist America want to say, by your revolutionary deed you are heroes, and that you are always welcome to our camp."

Source: Maoist Internationist Movement
Article: REVOLUTIONARY HEROS (May 11, 1969):
http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/bpp/index.html

Bill Ayers TODAY (April 6, 2008), from his own red communist star-headed website, begging to debate communism vs capitalism with Sean Hannity and STILL calling for revolution!

"Imperialism. I’m against it, and if Sean Hannity and others were honest, this is the ground they would fight me on. Capitalism played its role historically and is exhausted as a force for progress: built on exploitation, theft, conquest, war, and racism, capitalism and imperialism must be defeated and a world revolution—a revolution against war and racism and materialism, a revolution based on human solidarity and love, cooperation and the common good —must win.

We begin by releasing our most hopeful dreams and our most radical imaginations: a better world is both possible and necessary.

Source: http://billayers.wordpress.com/2008/04/page/2/

From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
March 6, 1970: "three members of the Weather Underground accidentally killed themselves in a Manhattan townhouse while attempting to build a powerful bomb they had intended to plant at a social dance in Fort Dix, New Jersey -- an event that was to be attended by U.S. Army soldiers. Hundreds of lives could have been lost had the plot been successfully executed."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808

"The bomb was intended to be planted at a non-commissioned officer's dance at Fort Dix, New Jersey.
The bomb was packed with nails to inflict maximum casualties upon detonation."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)#Chronology_of_events

'Guilty as hell, free as a bird—America is a great country,' he [Ayers] said."
August 2001, Chicago Magazine (article: No Regrets)
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/August-2001/No-Regrets/

Allies in War
By David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001:

ON THE MORNING OF THE ATTACKS on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, along with a million other readers of the New York Times including many who would never be able to read the paper again, I opened its pages to be confronted by a color photo showing a middle-aged couple holding hands and affecting a defiant look at the camera. The article was headlined in an irony that could not have been more poignant, "No Regrets For A Love Of Explosives."

The couple pictured were Bill Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, former leaders of the 1960s’ Weather Underground, America’s first terrorist cult. One of their bombing targets, as it happened, was the Pentagon.

"I don’t regret setting bombs," Ayers was quoted in the opening line of the Times profile; "I feel we didn’t do enough."

In 1969, Ayers and his wife convened a "War Council" in Flint Michigan, whose purpose was to launch a military front inside the United States with the purpose of helping Third World [Maoist-communist] revolutionaries conquer and destroy it.

Taking charge of the podium, dressed in high-heeled boots and a leather mini-skirt – her signature uniform – Dorhn incited the assembled radicals to join the war against "Amerikkka" and create chaos and destruction in the "belly of the beast."

Her voice rising to a fevered pitch, Dohrn raised three fingers in a "fork salute" to mass murderer Charles Manson whom she proposed as a symbol to her troops. Referring to the helpless victims of the Manson Family as the "Tate Eight" (the most famous was actress Sharon Tate) Dohrn shouted:

"Dig It. First they killed those pigs, then they ate dinner in the same room with them, they even shoved a fork into a victim’s stomach! Wild!"

(big snip)

Today William Ayers is not merely an author favored by the New York Times, but a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois, Chicago.

His Lady Macbeth [Bernardine Dohrn] is not merely a lawyer, but a member of the American Bar Association’s governing elite, as well as the director of Northwestern University’s Children and Family Justice Center.
[it's true! see: http://www.law.northwestern.edu/aclu/]

Article: Allies in War -by David Horowitz
FrontPageMagazine.com | Monday, September 17, 2001
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=63512670-BF7C-42A0-B41D-5D0FB9E09C09

The Center for Public Intellectuals & The University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC)
April 19th-20th, 2002, Conference

[Participants include: William/Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Sen Barack Obama]

April 19th-20th, 2002
Chicago Illini Union
828 S. Wolcott

This conference is part of the Center's mission of helping to create a more engaged civil society, working towards social change, fostering coalitions between theorists and activists, and combating anti-intellectualism in contemporary culture. It will be both a celebration of ideas and a rigorous examination of the roles and responsibilities that intellectuals play in society.

I. Why Do Ideas Matter? (a keynote panel)

We introduce the “meta” theme of the conference by hearing “success stories” from diverse voices discussing their experiences intervening intellectually.

Timuel Black, Chicago activist; Prof. Emeritus, City Colleges of Chicago
Lonnie Bunch, President, Chicago Historical Society
Bernardine Dohrn, Northwestern University Law School, Children and Family Justice Center
Gerald Graff, UIC, College of Liberal Arts & Sciences
Richard Rorty, Stanford University, Philosophy

III. Lunch and Public Encounters

Alternative breakout tours led by Chicago activists. Tours of Bronzeville and other communities, and visits to organizations that are working on partnering theorists with activists.

IV. Intellectuals in Times of Crisis
Experiences and applications of intellectual work in urgent situations.

William Ayers, UIC, College of Education; author of Fugitive Days
Douglass Cassel, Northwestern University, Center for International Human Rights
Cathy Cohen, University of Chicago, Political Science
Salim Muwakkil, Chicago Tribune; In These Times
Barack Obama, Illinois State Senator
Barbara Ransby, UIC, African-American Studies (moderator)

The Center for Public Intellectuals
University of Illinois-Chicago (UIC):
http://www.uic.edu/classes/las/las400/conferencealt.htm

"In July 1969, Dohrn, Eleanor Raskin, Dianne Donghi, Peter Clapp, David Millstone and Diana Oughton, all representing 'Weatherman', as Dohrn's faction was now called, traveled to Cuba and met with representatives of the North Vietnamese and Cuban governments."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernardine_Dohrn

From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
"FBI files from 1976, recently made public under the Freedom of Information Act, confirm the connections between Weatherman, Havana, and Moscow. Weatherman leaders like Mark Rudd traveled illegally to Havana in 1968 to engage in terrorist training. There, camps set up by Soviet KGB Colonel Vadim Kotchergine were educating Westerners both in Marxist philosophy and urban warfare."
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6808

July 27, 1970: The United States Army base at The Presidio in San Francisco is bombed on the 11th anniversary of the Cuban Revolution. [NYTimes, 7/27/70] :
Chronology of Weather Underground attacks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_(organization)#Chronology_of_events

Weather Underground Organization [linked to N. Vietnamese and Cuban gov'mts, KGB]
[420 pages in all on pdf]

Source: FBI | Freedom of Information Act

In 1976, the FBI's Chicago Field Office prepared a summary which described the activities of the Weather Underground Organization, also known as Weathermen. This organization described itself as a revolutionary organization of communist men and women. The FBI's analysis of its motivations, beliefs, and international travels are outlined in this summary.

[some excerpts from the 1976 report linking the organization to foreign governments...]

From the moment in October, 1967, when Radio Hanoi announced the formation of the South Vietnamese Peoples Committee for Solidarity with American People (by the National Liberation Front (NLF), the political arm of the Viet Cong) with the objective of establishing relations with "progressive organizations and individuals in the United States," a political front was enjoined in behalf of the national interests of the Democratic Republic of North Vietnam (DRV) (and the NLF), the purpose of which was to intensify the anti-war sentiment in the United States. From the initial meeting between the Vietnamese and leading anti-war activists held in Bratislava, Czechoslovakia, in November, 1967, to the July, 1969, meeting with leading Weatherpeople held in Havana, Cuba, the influence of Vietnamese representatives on the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) leadership became sharply pronounced. At the same time, the example of the Cuban revolution became the guide for the emerging American student revolutionary. With an increasing number of trips to Havana where the youthful revolutionary could learn at first hand how to create revolution, the influence of Cuba on the developing WUO [Weather Underground Organization] was enormous.

The WUO obtained their revolutionary methodology from the Cubans and Vietnamese and, importantly, put into practice what they had learned from them. The Weathermen, of course, did not just happen to come about during the June, 1969, SDS National Convention. They fully admit their radical heritage began during experiences gained in SDS and as shown herein their international contacts with representatives of the DRV and NLF which began in 1967 increased their anti-imperialist consciousness so that by 1969 they had solidified their revolutionary commitment to include the maximum optimum of armed struggle. So, when Huynh Van Ba, representative of the Provisional Revolutionary Government of Vietnam (PRG), instructed the WUO to "look for the person who fights hardest against the cops...Don't look for the one who says the best thing. Look for the one who fights," the campus base was forgotten and the WUO began to recruit the greasers and assorted oddments who had displayed their hatred of authority in direct combat with police.
http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/weather.htm ___________________________________________________________________

Hanoi Jane Endorses Obama
April 3, 2008

REPORTER 1: Jane, who are you voting for?

REPORTER 2: Who gets your vote?

FONDA: Obama.

REPORTER 2: Oh, my God. Heaven help us all.

RUSH: The reporter for TMZ said, "Oh, God. Heaven help us all." Obviously the reporter is an Obama supporter.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_040308/content/01125111.guest.html

November 22, 1970 -- During a fund-raising tour for GI deserters, Vietnam Veterans Against the War and the Black Panthers, Jane Fonda is quoted in the Detroit Free Press as telling a University of Michigan audience: "I would think that if you understood what communism was, you would hope, you would pray on your knees that we would someday become communist," and "The peace proposal of the Viet Cong is the only honorable, just, possible way to achieve peace in Vietnam."
Source: http://www.wintersoldier.com/index.php?topic=Timeline

Fonda made the following statement at the University of Texas: "We've got to establish a Socialist economic structure that will limit private profit-oriented businesses. Whether the transition is peaceful depends on the way our present governmental leaders react. We must commit our lives to this transition ...... We should be very proud of our new breed of soldier. It's not organized but it's mutiny, and they have every right."
--Karen Elliott Dallas Morning News December 11, 1971

From 1972: "I am not a do-gooder, I am a revolutionary. A revolutionary woman."

Source for most of the Jane Fonda material:
http://www.1stcavmedic.com/jane_fonda.htm

From MSNBC Hardball with Chris Mathews (transcript)
March. 21, 2006:

TAYLOR(spokesman for freerepublic.com): We have kids that wear Che Guevara shirts here in the United States.

MATTHEWS: Yes, but they're kind of cute at this point, aren't they? They're not about somebody out to get us now. I think there's a difference. I mean, that's kind of camp almost, isn't it?...is Che Guevara the symbol of hate in the United States anymore?

TAYLOR: Yes.

MATTHEWS: I don't think so. I mean, a lot of our kids wear them. I see kids wearing them all the time, even my kids wear them. It's like a Robert Marley T-shirt at this point.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11943459/

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Che flag sends 'disturbing' message about Obama
Candidate attracts 'people who think mass murderers are romantic revolutionaries'

February 13, 2008
© 2008 WorldNetDaily

The Fox TV affiliate in Houston has captured images of a volunteer in a campaign office for Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama working in front of a flag featuring the image of Che Guevara, the South American revolutionary who became Fidel Castro's executioner after the communist takeover in Cuba.

And while the Obama campaign has issued a statement placing a modest distance between the campaign and its "volunteers," the issue of such an image on display in an office operating on behalf of a man hoping to be commander in chief of the world's last remaining superpower is raising alarms.

Even Obama supporters have been forced into corners because of the issue, with one likening the Texas state Republican Party to Guevara, to whom have been attributed hundreds of executions of anti-Castro leaders.

Under the heading "Barack Guevara," Investor's Business Daily raised some of the more pointed questions, to which the campaign responded only with a statement: "The office featured in this video is funded by volunteers of the Barack Obama Campaign and is not an official headquarters for his campaign. ..."

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56293

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Matthews: Obama Speech Caused 'Thrill Going Up My Leg'
"During MSNBC's live coverage of Tuesday's presidential primary elections, after the speeches of Barack Obama and John McCain had aired, Chris Matthews expressed his latest over the top admiration for Obama's speaking skills as the MSNBC anchor admitted that Obama's speech created a 'thrill' in his leg"
http://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2008/02/13/matthews-obama-speech-caused-thrill-going-my-leg

12 posted on 06/14/2008 9:43:49 AM PDT by ETL
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To: ken21
they don’t know it.

The NEA's communist manifesto curricula was successful.....

13 posted on 06/14/2008 9:45:56 AM PDT by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: 353FMG

“so why the outrage now.”

no outrage here; just a mixture of chagrin, resignation and contemplation; chagrin because the first amendment (among others) will become academic, resignation because the final propaganda assault will be imminent, and contemplation because i’ll
be thinking about how to avoid the obnoxious economic slavery to come.

(and by the way; you never declared yourselves to be marxists but just compassionate people who wanted to save the human race. but, every time you were called on it you denied it. so, congratulations on well-done job of treachery and lies.)

IMHO


14 posted on 06/14/2008 9:49:44 AM PDT by ripley
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To: ETL

Chicago is a good place to be FROM! or stated another way, Chicago is a nice place to visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there!


15 posted on 06/14/2008 9:52:16 AM PDT by CRBDeuce (an armed society is a polite society)
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To: CRBDeuce
Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn, Louis Farrakhan, Rev Wright, Obama, all are based in Chicago.

June 12, 2008: Obama moves DNC operations to Chicago:
"In a major shakeup at the Democratic National Committee -- and a departure from tradition -- large parts of the committee's operations are relocating to Chicago to be fully integrated with the Obama campaign."
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0608/Obama_moves_DNC_operations_to_Chicago.html

16 posted on 06/14/2008 10:00:29 AM PDT by ETL
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To: vietvet67

Most young people today = especially those in the Obama hordes - have no idea of what a “Marxist” or “Leninist” is or who Che is and what he did = same for Marx and Lenin and Stalin.

Those who DO understand what Marxism is and what it has done and what it will do to this country - either fear fundamentalist Christians 10,000 times more than they fear Marxism....and will not understand the damage/danger/and destruction of Marxism until it has openly spilled over into their TV / Movie watching privileges....


17 posted on 06/14/2008 10:07:19 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (communism killed 100 milion people in 20th century.only cause USA did not give it chance to succeed)
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To: ETL

bookmarked - thanks


18 posted on 06/14/2008 10:09:23 AM PDT by Freedom'sWorthIt (communism killed 100 milion people in 20th century.only cause USA did not give it chance to succeed)
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
You're welcome. Glad you found the information useful. Feel free to link to it (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/gop/2031081/posts?page=12#12) or copy & paste as a forward.
19 posted on 06/14/2008 10:25:52 AM PDT by ETL
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To: Freedom'sWorthIt
Most young people today = especially those in the Obama hordes - have no idea of what a “Marxist” or “Leninist” is or who Che is

Most young people today wouldn't have a clue which direction to point their Sweet 16th Lexus if their favorite Starbucks barista asked for a lift to the State Capital.

20 posted on 06/14/2008 10:29:37 AM PDT by RoadKingSE (How do you know that the light at the end of the tunnel isn't a muzzle flash?)
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To: Old Sarge
Speaking only for myself, I'm no sheep.

Many people now appear apathetic because they cannot bring themselves to believe that Obama, if elected, would try to impose a full-blown European-style social democracy complete with confiscatory taxes, national health care and firearm confiscation.

He can, and given 60% majorities in Congress, he will.

That's when your sheep will turn into lions. When people discover they can no longer choose their own doctor, or have to wait six months for an operation, or see their taxes nearly double, they may well shake off their lethargy. And every gun owner I know - and I know many - would rather die than surrender their guns. I'm one of them.

21 posted on 06/14/2008 11:10:35 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace is Not The Question.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
That's when your sheep will turn into lions.

No, that's when the sheep will turn into mutton - because the State will devour them.

Look at their reaction to the gas prices; they grumble and make jokes and complain about it, but after a few weeks, they simply fill their gas tanks and accept it. There will be no uprisings, that takes a committment. Besides, “Dancing with the American Idols who Want to be Millionaires at the High School Musical” is on...

22 posted on 06/14/2008 1:15:33 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: ETL

You used too many words. Therefore, The Sheep will not read it.


23 posted on 06/14/2008 1:16:10 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: Old Sarge
I understand your pessimism. The fact that we can deal with high gas prices without panic is because we have done so well financially in recent years - not that you'd hear any of that from the mainstream media. We can afford it - barely - but most of us can. The problem is that it is so utterly unnecessary, and that Obama and his ilk would give us more - much more - of the same.

But there is a huge difference between taking away a man's cheap fuel and taking away his ability to defend his family. People do not act when they are inconvenienced - they act when their freedom is threatened and still possess the means to stop it. We do and we will.

24 posted on 06/14/2008 1:33:57 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace is Not The Question.)
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To: andy58-in-nh
there is a huge difference between taking away a man's cheap fuel and taking away his ability to defend his family

I wish I could be so certain that when the time comes, and it will, that people will stand and fight. After Hurricane Katrina, weapons were confiscated. There was no blood shed. The confiscation will be gradual -- first the handguns, then sportsmen will have to check their weapons in and out of special shooting clubs. It'll be the frog in the pot of water, just like this whole commie takeover of our country has been. Look what has happened while we weren't paying attention.

25 posted on 06/14/2008 2:56:24 PM PDT by informavoracious (Freedom Isn't Free)
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To: informavoracious
Let me ask you a question: what would you do, as a free person living in a purportedly free country, if you knew that someone was coming to your door to confiscate the legal and consitutionally-protected means by which you had to defend your family?

I know what I'll do.

26 posted on 06/14/2008 5:36:19 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Peace is Not The Question.)
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To: CPOSharky

“They still have to get the guns away from us rednecks. That would be Barack Mugabe Hussien’s next order of business.”

You really think he wants to get tangled up with rednecks?? Remember, the ole rednecks are better shots than the thugs he’s used to hangin with that don’t know how to even hold a gun. Nah, surely he aint that brave....


27 posted on 06/14/2008 7:51:37 PM PDT by DrewsMum (www.reportillegals.com)
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To: Bill Dupray

I’ll tell you Obama isn’t Marxist! He is a Democrat, remember, in our superior two party political system. In France, Italy, Israel, a man like O’Bambino could never represent a mainstream political party, or a party identifying itself as centrist. We asked for it and we got it. O’Bambino could very easily be a Republican candidate. Two party political system, yeah, just like the Holy Founding Fathers prescribed!


28 posted on 06/14/2008 7:57:38 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Are you ready to pray for Teddy?)
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To: ripley

He is really a Crypto-Marxist. He is hiding that fact and is trying to portray himself as a left of center moderate. The term Fabian Socialist will serve as an interim label untill the success of his likely agenda would allow him to reveal himself as the full bore Marxist that he is.


29 posted on 06/14/2008 10:12:01 PM PDT by DMZFrank
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30 posted on 06/14/2008 10:15:24 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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31 posted on 06/14/2008 10:15:34 PM PDT by narses (...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
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To: Old Sarge
They won the youth, they own the courts and the media, they control the message, and the population.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And....STUPID conservatives continue to let it happen!

What **really** irritates me are the Talking Pumpkin Heads of talk radio! Geeze! Rush, Hannity, and OReily should start calling the enemy what it is????? What are they? Weenies? Are they afraid the enemy will accuse them of name calling?

What is this? Is this like Harry Potter and “He Who Must Not Be Named”? Huh? The enemy is Marxism-Communism. Democrats are either communists or Useful Idiots! The Ichabods of talk radio are afraid of the scary word “communist”?

We will **not** win this cultural war unless we call the enemy by his true name!

Also...regarding our youth. It is almost beyond hope. Marxism is our nation's **most** serious threat, and schools are the Marxists’ **most** important weapon.

Get your kids out of government schools. Immediately! ( I have never heard Rush, Hannity, or OReilly say this!)

Encourage your neighbor to do the same.( I have never heard the Talking Pumpkin Heads say this!)

Elect political representatives with the courage to SHUT DOWN the Marxist government schools. ( I have never heard the Three Ichabods of talk radio call for this.)

Organize private voucher foundations that will private private vouchers to children attending **conservative*** private schools. If Harvard can have a 35 BILLION dollar endowment and colleges and universities throughout the nation can have endowments in the BILLIONS and multi-millions surely conservatives could do the same for conservative private schools!

Finally, ministers are NOT going to help. There are too many government school employees and beneficiaries sitting in the pews. Few ministers will bite the hand putting money in the collection plate.

32 posted on 06/14/2008 10:45:41 PM PDT by wintertime (A mother is as happy as her least successful child.)
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To: Bill Dupray; narses
Pinged from Terri Dailies

8mm


33 posted on 06/15/2008 4:00:12 AM PDT by 8mmMauser (Jezu ufam tobie...Jesus I trust in Thee)
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