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To: SmokingJoe
So is my position. Your position is not particularly relevant.

And yet you asked me to state my position: "Now why don't you tell us why she can't win?"

Didn't really think that through, did ya? ;)

In other words, you have no anwesr to my question, and instead, insist on your “right” to troll Palin threads with impunity.

The Superfan tactic of labelling anyone who doesn't worship Palin a "troll" is not only tiring but it reveals an emotional attachment that is no better than Obama worship.

I support Palin and asked for non-emotion-based facts that indicate Palin can win, and not why people like her, but why they believe she can win.

Asking why people think a candidate can win is trolling to you. Wow.

Odd how you totally avoided the question,

LOL From a guy who can't answer a simple question except by posting a poll he then says can't be trusted.

and instead veer off on a tangent with yet another mindless attack on those who back Palin.

Where did I do that--when I asked "why do you back Palin?" If you think that's a "mindless attack" you need to toughen up, kid.

The whiney victim pose that appears whenever someone asks for FACTS and information about whether or not we can defeat Obama with a candidate is so damned tired and shows a lack of intellectual vigor and honesty, and an excess of emotional attachment where clear thinking is required.

Ummmmm... I made it clear in my post that PPP is a Democratic Party, anti-Palin outfit. More reason to expect their polls to be biased against Palin. Which is why even PPP, having Palin neck and neck with 0bama is pretty remarkable.

This after you just accused me of dodging a question.

Is this poll reliable or not, yes or no?

Plus Gallup just came out with their own poll which has Palin ahead of anyone else in favourability ratings amongst Republicans: Sarah Rising [76% of Republicans find her favorable].

That's nice. So just to be clear, Gallup and PPP polls are reliable in terms of tracking Palin's popularity according to you. OK, I will take that as your long-delayed answer to my very simple, very relevant question as to indicators Palin can win. Thanks.

41 posted on 07/28/2010 1:44:42 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Barack Obama, the Coleman Francis of presidents.)
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To: Darkwolf377
And yet you asked me to state my position: “Now why don't you tell us why she can't win

Nope.
You kept shrilly trolling this thread, demanding to be told why Sarah can win in 2012, and simply refused to accept every reasonable answer that was given to you, so I turned your things round, and demanded that YOU tell us why she cannot win.
Seems fair and reasonable to me.
Naturally, you dodged the question completely, and turned round and attacked Plain supporters.
Typical.

The Superfan tactic of labelling anyone who doesn't worship Palin a “troll” is not only tiring but it reveals an emotional attachment that is no better than Obama worship”

The tactic, whereby a certain deranged clique here on FR, constantly, and rabidly appear on every single Palin thread to spew out the same old discredited garbage over and over again, borders on insanity.
People like that need to get medical treatment and fast.

42 posted on 07/28/2010 2:01:23 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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To: Darkwolf377
LOL From a guy who can't answer a simple question except by posting a poll he then says can't be trusted”

That is a heck of a lot better than you did. You totally dodged my question, and veered off on a tangent with a made up distraction.
And..Umm..the other poll I posted said Sarah Palin has a much higher favorability rating than any other potential GOP candidate for 2012:
Sarah Rising [76% of Republicans find her favorable] http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/2554518/posts

Asking why people think a candidate can win is trolling to you. Wow”

Refusing to accept all perfectly reasonable answers given to your question, and ridiculing any answers given to you, only for you to to come back and continue to make the same demands, IS trolling.

Where did I do that”

Right here:
“odd how you folks are always quoting polls you used to claim are unreliable, but they're suddenly reliable indicators when they go your way. “

“—when I asked “why do you back Palin?” If you think that's a “mindless attack” you need to toughen up, kid”

You demanded to know why Plain can win in 2012, and refused to accept all answers given to you. This is your post # 7: "What I think is that for all the love for Palin, I’m looking for actual evidence that she can win a presidential race" I asked you to tell us why Palin cannot win in 2012. I am yet to hear even one answer from you, let alone a good one. Yet you have continued to ridicule every attempt at answering your question, even while rfeusing to make any attempt to answer question asked you. Figures.

The whiney victim pose that appears whenever someone asks for FACTS and information about whether or not we can defeat Obama with a candidate is so damned tired and shows a lack of intellectual vigor and honesty, and an excess of emotional attachment where clear thinking is required.”

Plenty of posters in this thread have given you good, very pertinent facts, only for you to dismiss them out of hand. Meanwhile, you are yet to supply even one fact or answer any questions posed to you. You are the one with the emotional problem here.

This after you just accused me of dodging a question.”

You are STILL dodging the question. As a matter of fact, you are yet to answer any question posed to you at all.

Is this poll reliable or not, yes or no?”

If anything, there is a pretty good chance chance that this poll is biased AGAINST Sarah Plain, not for her. So if anything, Sarah Plain is probably doing better than in this poll.
Plus I backed it up with the Gallup poll, which has Sarah Plain solidly ahead of any other GOP candidate for 2012, in favourability amongst Republicans.

So just to be clear, Gallup and PPP polls are reliable in terms of tracking Palin’s popularity according to you”

Just to be clear, PPP is a Democratic Party supporting outfit (they don't even make that a secret do they?). Their polls will if anything, more likely to tilt AGAINST Sarah Palin.
Get it?

44 posted on 07/28/2010 2:37:18 PM PDT by SmokingJoe
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