Perry hits Gingrich and Romney on health-care mandates in TV ad (video)

Heh. I should have included the sarcasm tag. ;) I don’t support him either!

Heh. I should have included the sarcasm tag. ;)

You know, that thought occurred to me, right as I was pressing the Post button ;-)

Newt Gingrich supports Obama and Mitt Romney’s healthcare plan-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYHSdRRLb7U

And just where was Perry during the entire Obamacare fiasco?

Newt's Liberal Agenda Exposed

Newt Gingrich Backs Funds For Abortion - http://articles.sfgate.com/1995-04-10/news/17801484_1_poor-w...

02/15/2007 - Newt Gingrich supported a proposal for mandatory carbon cap and trade - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/hotpolitics/intervie...

02/10/2011 - Newt Gingrich wants to replace the EPA instead of abolishing it - http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20031365-503544.html

01/30/2011 - Newt Gingrich lobbied for ethanol subsidies -http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870469800457610...

Newt Gingrich's Environmental Problem -http://www.salon.com/2011/05/11/gingrich_environment_america...

Newt Gingrich co-sponsored the Global Warming Prevention Act which says that “the Earth’s atmosphere is being changed at an unprecedented rate by pollutants resulting from human activities, inefficient and wasteful fossil fuel use, and the effects of rapid population growth in many regions...global warming imperils human health and well-being...and [demands] to reduce world emissions of carbon dioxide by at least 20% from 1988 levels by 2000... major threat to political stability, international security, and economic prosperity.” - 1998 - http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d101:H.R.1078:

Newt Gingrich Supported the Bailouts/TARP

Newt Gingrich says he would've voted for TARP -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJb2NfqwghY

Newt Gingrich gets back on the couch with Pelosi-http://michellemalkin.com/2008/09/28/gingrich-gets-back-on-t...

Newt Gingrich Supported Federal Health Insurance

Newt Gingrich supports Obama and Mitt Romney's healthcare plan-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYHSdRRLb7U

Newt Gingrich says the government must force people to buy health insurance- http://www.healthtransformation.net/cs/opeds_news?pressrelea...

Newt Gingrich Was More Supportive Of Individual Mandates Than Mitt Romney- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/12/newt-gingrich-indiv...

11/15/2010 - Newt Gingrich defended Romneycare -http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1110/Gingrich_defends...

03/19/2011 - Newt Gingrich has no regrets about supporting Medicare drug coverage. (Now $7.2T unfunded liability) -http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/usnews/health-care/6...

Newt Gingrich said: “All of us have a responsibility to help pay for health care.” - http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870350910457632...

Newt Gingrich said: “I agree that all of us have a responsibility to pay — help pay for health care.” MSNBC’s David Gregory: But that is the individual mandate, is it not? “It’s a variation on it.” -http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/267330/gingrich-i-oppos...

In 2008 Newt Gingrich suggested ‘insurance mandates for people who earn more than $75,000 a year.’ Two years later, he was telling Sean Hannity at Fox News that health insurance mandates were unconstitutional.” -http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/0327/New...

Newt Gingrich Supports Amnesty for Illegals Aliens

Watch the video of Newt Gingrich proposing amnesty in his own voice -http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-OKFOhCaDY

Conservatives are critical of Newt's amnesty stance -http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/283932/gingrich-amnesty...

More criticisms about Newt's desire for illegals to receive amnesty -http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1210/45873.html

Newt Gingrich voted to raise the debt ceiling 4 times:
1 - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1979-449
2 - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1980-936
3 - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1981-7
4 - http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1984-754

Newt Gingrich voted for a $50 billion tax increase - (House Roll Call Vote 569 - 1984)

Newt Gingrich was paid by Freddie Mac to lobby Republicans for support -http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-16/gingrich-said-to-be...

More on the Newt Gingrich Freddie Mac lobbyist scandal -http://www.cnbc.com/id/28108013/How_Freddie_Mac_Splashed_Cas...

Newt Gingrich's Charity Paid Money to Gingrich's Business -http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2011/06/gingrich-cha...

Newt Gingrich voted to create the Department of Education -http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1979-468

Newt Gingrich voted for the single largest increase on Federal education spending ($3.5 Billion) - http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1996/roll135.xml

Newt Gingrich flip-flops on Libya in less than 16 days-http://www.slate.com/content/slate/blogs/weigel/2011/03/23/n...

Newt Gingrich supported the World Trade Organization, voted for GATT/WTO - http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1994/roll507.xml

Newt Gingrich supported GATT - http://www.cfaba.org/cf05006.htm

Newt Gingrich supported WTO - http://www.nolanchart.com/article368-bill-clinton-and-his-na...

03/15/2011 - Newt Gingrich says that NAFTA worked 'because it created jobs in Mexico' - http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/03/15/150658/gingrich...

Newt Gingrich helped push through federally-funded loan guarantees to communist China - http://www.lessgovisthebestgov.com/Newt-Gingrich-Candidate-P....

"Newt Gingrich was passionately in favor of helping Russia (with US foreign aid), saying it was a "great defining moment" for America and we had to do the right thing. Newt was trying to "out-Russia" me, which I was only too happy to have him do." - Bill Clinton -http://www.issues2000.org/My_Life.htm

In one year (1994-1995) Newt Gingrich voted for nearly $45 billion in foreign aid - http://www.unelected.org/socialist-of-the-week-newt-gingrich.

Newt Gingrich was for the United Nations before he was against it -http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/08/11/gingrich_...

09/16/1996 - Newt Gingrich voted for the anti-gun Brady Campaign’s Lautenberg Gun Ban, which took away gun rights-http://www.nationalgunrights.org/the-inconvenient-truth-abou...

Newt Gingrich has a bad firearms record - http://gunowners.org/gingrich-mixed-record.htm

Newt Gingrich worked for the Rockefeller campaign -http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newt/interviews.html

10/16/2009 - Newt Gingrich endorsed super liberal Dede Scozzafava -http://michellemalkin.com/2009/10/16/an-acorn-friendly-big-l...

05/04/1979 - Newt Gingrich voted for a federal land grab that put tens of millions of acres of land in the hands of Washington bureaucrats. -http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1979-107

04/02/1987 - Newt Gingrich cosponsored the 1987 Fairness Doctrine (anti 1st Amendment legislation) - http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2011/04/29/newt-gingrich-co-sponso...

Newt Gingrich voted to take land away from states and individuals. The “Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act,” which Newt Gingrich voted for in support of President Jimmy Carter, was a federal government power grab that put tens of millions of acres of land in the hands of the corrupt cronyism and bureaucracy in Washington. -http://www.govtrack.us/congress/vote.xpd?vote=h1979-107

Fiscal conservative Steve Forbes' magazine says that "Newt Gingrich Represents The Worst Qualities Of The GOP Primary Field" -http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2011/11/16/newt-gingric...

The Many Flip-Flops of Newt Gingrich -http://www.tnr.com/slideshow/politics/85743/newt-gingrich-li...

World Net Daily (WND) - Joe Farah says that "Gingrich is a Liberal" -http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=299873

Democrats Think Newt Gingrich Will Be Easy To Beat -http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1111/68414.html

Jack Abramoff says 'Newt Gingrich is corrupt' -http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/jack-abramoff-n...

And just where was Perry during the entire Obamacare fiasco?

Somehere going " Ohh. This (bleep) gives me a headache."

They cut off the video before Gingrich could answer the last question and I don’t know what he said, but was led to believe from his prior answer that he was really talking about a step toward privatizing and incentivizing individual healthcare with vouchers and tax credits to individuals who buy their own insurance policies or pay healthcare expenses out of their own pockets rather than rely on employers or government plans.

Disclosure. I did not watch the video.

And before you go ape (bleep) over post 65, please understand... I will vote for Newt. If I have to. Just like I had to vote for McCain.

I won’t like it. And I’m afraid Newt vs. Obama will have the same results as McCain vs. Obama.

But, I’m hopeful Perry will improve his polling numbers. Perry’s not perfect, but he’s far better than Newt.

You left off this quote about Newt:

Jim Robinson says, “At least Newt did support Ronald Reagan and the Reagan Revolution. He did build a successful Republican majority. He did cut taxes, did reduce the deficit, did balance the budget, did block HillaryCare, did reform welfare, did allow us to reap the whirlwind of the Reagan economy. And he is a notorious lib thumper and he will thump the hell out of libs Romney and Obama!! Romney is the establishment elite’s love potion. Newt is the antidote!!”

When Perry praised Hillarycare

Now, Gingrich’s original plan also had a voucher based on means testing of poor people to assist in paying for their health care.

This sounds a heck of a lot better than the idea that the govt "owns" me and can tell me I have to buy a product.

Gingrich was on the wrong side of this issue. Like most DC folks he's inclined to think the answer is with a better managed central govt. In the end we need to open the insurance markets and eliminate the silly rule that hospitals must treat patients whether they have insurance or not.

Gingrich is probably smart enough to see the American people do not want to be treated like servants and will look for market based solutions rather than mandates.

Who you gonna call?

The 60-80% who are either undecided or not firm in their support for anyone.

This race is still more fluid than the Mississipppi. Newt's just the latest anti-Romney. His support is a mile wide and an inch deep.

Beating Romney is the first battle in a war to win back the White House. It may take until next summer to knock him out. Does Newt have the discipline, organization, and financing to pull that off? I've seen little evidence that he does.

Perry, on the other hand, is well positioned to take advantage of a Romney-Gingrich smackdown.

We'll see. Ultimately, denying Romney the nomination and uniting behind our nominee for the main event is our common goal.

Rick Perry is okay by me.

Well, Newt is definitely the anti-Romney and the anti-Obama. I have nothing bad to say about Perry. Had high hopes for him. Other than his diddling with mandated vaccines for girls and in-state tuition for illegals and his flop as a debater, his results in Texas are great. Can’t argue with success. Likewise, Newt’s actual accomplishments and successes as Reaganite congressman and Speaker are great!!

Especially when compared to Romneys’s anti-Reagan crowning accomplishments including:

RomneyCare, $50 taxpayer funded abortions, gay marriage, gun-control, a bankrupt state, liberal judges and appointees, and a completely destroyed Republican brand in Massachusetts.

Romney succeeded well as a Ted Kennedy ally.

I wish Perry nothing but the best. Good Christian family man. Good governor.

If he sticks, he’ll probably be the conservative alternative, although I think we could have found a better one.

This feels so much like John McCain all over again. I can’t see how Gingrich qualifies as more conservative than John McCain — he simply hasn’t been in congress in the last 10 years to screw us like McCain has, so we’ve forgotten.

Your link is about when Perry told Clinton to not screw up the health care system. It has nothing in it praising Hillarycare.

It contains standard boilerplate you use when you are trying to convince an official with responsibility NOT to do something bad to you. If you listen to the Herman Cain town hall question to Bill Clinton that is credited with killing Hillarycare, you’ll find Herman Cain used the same language PRAISING Bill Clinton for tackling health care, just like Perry did.

This next debate could change a few things around. If you recall, its been Newt's "avoiding criticism of other candidates" that allowed him to steadily rise in the polls.

Well, he dominates the #1 position now that Cain is out. This leaves him and Romney in the uncomfortable position of having to claw each other's eyeballs out. Its bound to happen sooner or later. Will viewers like Romney coming after Newt? Newt lashing back at Romney? Both of these cats finally have to square up and battle it out. Unless by some miracle, both manage to escape a skirmish - which seems impossible.

How these 2 duke it out (perhaps in the Dec 10 debate) could shake up the polls. I sort of like Perry's (and even Bachmann's and Santorum's) place in this one. This debate could be very similar to the first couple of debates where Perry and Romney battled for supremacy and took most of the media criticism.

Only thing is our camp may be ready for Newt to finally take off the gloves on Romney and that could seal it up for him. But he has to be careful because Mr. Nice Guy Newt is a role he can no longer play. He could turn people OFF.

Yes that is why everyone needs to know his true record.

And then there’s the substance of the “historical analysis” he allegedly gave them (from the National Review link two paragraphs below):

It wasn’t obvious until 2007… Initially, it wasn’t Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Initially, it was things like Countrywide, but the minute you started getting people who could buy houses with no credit, no money down, I mean, these things are insane. And I was cheerfully saying that in my public speeches.

Gingrich contradicts himself here: It certainly was obvious, long before 2007, that a policy of government guarantee of loans without proof of the borrower’s ability to repay was a bad idea (and defies basic common sense). The existence of this program was well-known within government circles and by “policy wonks” (such as yours truly), but largely ignored by the media and the public at large. I have also criticized Herman Cain for the same failure of common sense in this regard.

On government-run medicine, Gingrich’s record rivals that of many prominent Democrats. He was an early champion of the individual mandate, more than a decade before Romneycare. He now excuses himself from the criticism Romney recieves, claiming that his endorsement of an individual mandate was an effort “to block Hillarycare“. Let’s state this another way: Gingrich’s response to a massive government healthcare initiative was to offer a slightly less-massive initiative of his own.

Gingrich was also one of the minds behind Medicare Part D. Newt again excuses himself from criticism for this multi-trillion-dollar giveaway, claiming that it helped reduce the cost of government-provided health care by subsidizing medicines in lieu of more-expensive surgeries, ignoring one of the basic principles of government interference in the market: Subsidizing a product makes it more expensive in the long-run. If the government gives people a dollar to buy an apple, the cost of an apple goes up by a dollar.

Gingrich, in keeping with his long-standing record of favoring greater government intervention in the health care industry, described Paul Ryan’s proposal to convert Medicare into a premium support plan as “right-wing social engineering“. Of course, Gingrich changed his tune when he caught flak for saying this, and has spent the last six months crafting an “alternative history” of his 17+ year record of supporting socialized medicine.

Much more at link.

http://conservativedailynews.com/2011/11/newt-gingrichs-record-uncomfortable-but-true/

Palin would have been the one. Bachmann had promise but stumbled at the gates and couldn’t recover. Perry started strong, but then shot himself in the foot or put his foot in his mouth or maybe both. At any rate, blew it at the debate. Cain shot up and crashed like a rocket. Santorum and Huntsman (who?) never caught any attention at all. Paul? Not enough spambots in the voting booth. If we had electronic voting, it’d be Paul by about a trillion votes.

Right now, if it’s Newt vs Mitt. I’ll take Newt. Thank you very much.

Well said, Jim. :)