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GOP insider: Religion destroyed my party
Salon ^ | 8-5-2012 | Mike Lofgren

Posted on 08/06/2012 7:45:42 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot

A veteran Republican says the religious right has taken over, and turned his party into anti-intellectual nuts

Having observed politics up close and personal for most of my adult lifetime, I have come to the conclusion that the rise of politicized religious fundamentalism may have been the key ingredient in the transformation of the Republican Party. Politicized religion provides a substrate of beliefs that rationalizes—at least in the minds of its followers—all three of the GOP’s main tenets: wealth worship, war worship, and the permanent culture war.

Religious cranks ceased to be a minor public nuisance in this country beginning in the 1970s and grew into a major element of the Republican rank and file. Pat Robertson’s strong showing in the 1988 Iowa presidential caucus signaled the gradual merger of politics and religion in the party. Unfortunately, at the time I mostly underestimated the implications of what I was seeing. It did strike me as oddly humorous that a fundamentalist staff member in my congressional office was going to take time off to convert the heathen in Greece, a country that had been overwhelmingly Christian for almost two thousand years. I recall another point, in the early 1990s, when a different fundamentalist GOP staffer said that dinosaur fossils were a hoax. As a mere legislative mechanic toiling away in what I held to be a civil rather than ecclesiastical calling, I did not yet see that ideological impulses far different from mine were poised to capture the party of Lincoln.

.... All around us now is a prevailing anti-intellectualism and hostility to science. Politicized religion is the sheet anchor of the dreary forty-year-old culture wars.

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Editor's Note: This article is an excerpt from the book "The Party Is Over: How Republicans Went Crazy, Democrats Became Useless and the Middle Class Got Shafted," available from Viking.
1 posted on 08/06/2012 7:45:46 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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To: Sir Napsalot

Revised title to reflect what they really mean:

GOP insider: Religion/The-Tea-Party/Conservatives/Fly-Over-Country/People-With-Principles destroyed my party


2 posted on 08/06/2012 7:51:43 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Freedom--tastes like chicken)
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To: Sir Napsalot

And, he thinks it’s a BAD thing....????


3 posted on 08/06/2012 7:52:12 AM PDT by goodnesswins (What has happened to America?)
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more anti christian b.s. and standard strawmen to knock down.....

what an assklown.,...


4 posted on 08/06/2012 7:52:43 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: Sir Napsalot

The left has been pushing this meme non-stop since the early 80’s with the emergence of the Christian Moral Majority.


5 posted on 08/06/2012 7:53:15 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Sir Napsalot
A veteran Republican???

A veteran Republican whom they refuse to name. Why? What did they do? Dig up Jacob Javits?

6 posted on 08/06/2012 7:53:30 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Sir Napsalot

And to promote his book, this good Republic soldier is going to the likes of Salon.

BTW, I am not sure why someone’s belief about dinosaur footprints should make a difference in a discussion about deficit spending, the role of government or even cultural morality issues. Maybe these types of pubbies can’t think clearly when they are too busy sneering.


7 posted on 08/06/2012 7:54:47 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
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To: Sir Napsalot

“....all three of the GOP’s main tenets: wealth worship, war worship, and the permanent culture war.”

No agenda by the writer. Nope, none at all. /s


8 posted on 08/06/2012 7:55:14 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Sir Napsalot

You should be so lucky, asshole.


9 posted on 08/06/2012 7:55:14 AM PDT by Blado (Democrats - the party of juvenile unresolved daddy issue rage.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
From the Amazon listing of his book:

Mike Lofgren spent twenty-eight years working in Congress, the last sixteen as a senior analyst on the House and Senate Budget committees, which gave him ringside seats on TARP, Hurricane Katrina disaster relief, debates on the Pentagon budget and the amazing antics of various deficit–reduction commissions. He holds two degrees in history and received a Fulbright scholarship. He lives in Washington, D.C.

That explains a lot....

10 posted on 08/06/2012 7:55:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Sir Napsalot
All around us now is a prevailing anti-intellectualism and hostility to science. Politicized religion is the sheet anchor of the dreary forty-year-old culture wars

What a load of crap. Look around FR and you'll see plenty of us religious FReepers as true lovers of science and discovery.
11 posted on 08/06/2012 7:55:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Sir Napsalot

That article is a bunch of bull-Obama.


12 posted on 08/06/2012 7:57:25 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: Sir Napsalot
My version:

GOP insider: Religion RINOs destroyed my party.

Fixed.

13 posted on 08/06/2012 7:57:42 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
A veteran Republican says the religious right has taken over, and turned his party into anti-intellectual nuts

"Thank you for agreeing to be interviewed this afternoon, Senator McCain."

14 posted on 08/06/2012 7:57:50 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Sir Napsalot

So we don’t get to know the name of this supposedly real-life, veteran Republican? Is this another Harry Reid propaganda action?


15 posted on 08/06/2012 7:57:59 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I think he means cults.


16 posted on 08/06/2012 7:58:21 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

LOL McQueeg was my first thought.


17 posted on 08/06/2012 7:58:39 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The call themselves republican without the slightest clue what republican means.


18 posted on 08/06/2012 7:59:28 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Sir Napsalot
GOP Insider Infil-traitor
19 posted on 08/06/2012 8:00:53 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: cripplecreek

IMO the lack of religion is destroying the country.

Morality has become almost none existent and Democrats are actually thinking of putting a Gay plank in their platform.

It isn’t religion that is destroying the Republican party it is people who are sup[posed Republicans but in actuality are Democrats. Much like the Dildo who wrote this scribe.


20 posted on 08/06/2012 8:01:00 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: cripplecreek
LOL McQueeg was my first thought.

Mr. "We have nothing to fear from an Obama presidency" will go down in history as one of conservatism's leading quislings... and deserves to. ;)

21 posted on 08/06/2012 8:01:00 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Harry Reid, is this you?


22 posted on 08/06/2012 8:01:39 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Same guy who told Reid Romney hadn’t filed taxes for 10 years?


23 posted on 08/06/2012 8:03:31 AM PDT by Boomer One
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To: Sir Napsalot

If it wasn’t for them stinking religious nuts, the Republicans could have long ago joined the Democrats in embracing communism.


24 posted on 08/06/2012 8:04:04 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: ScottinVA; All
My apology, if this is not clear from the article.

GOP Defector Spills the Beans

(Long term staffer) Mike Lofgren loyally served the GOP on Capitol Hill for 28 years. But no longer. Michael Tomasky on what the defection of a Republican staffer tells us about the state of the party.

25 posted on 08/06/2012 8:04:47 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = CCCP; JournOList + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey!)
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To: Blado
You should be so lucky, a**hole.

I hope you are adressing that to the author, and not to SirNaps...

26 posted on 08/06/2012 8:05:28 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Everything was so much better when neither party stood for anything, and everyone was getting along, never having to worry about cultural decline, the Constitution, liberty, irritating things like that. It is so much easier when taxes, big government, new regulations, new agencies, and mainstream media ruled. Everyone could have an abortion, the borders could be open, and no one in government paid attention to the 2nd Amendment. We were all Democrats, but the Republican Democrats were keeping the Democrats sane. ...Meanwhile, we can’t disenfranchise less than 2 percent of voters because they are gay, which the author probably is, and we can’t disenfranchise women, or minorities, but he has no problem disenfranchising people with principles, honest people, moral people, those silly people who still think the Constitution means something, or that this nation has a Christian heritage. Damn them for interjecting conscience into politics.


27 posted on 08/06/2012 8:08:26 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Sir Napsalot

Nothing will change their minds -— that the ‘common people’ are cultureless Neanderthals.

The GOP supposedly represents the greedy, stupid common people.

they think this way because it is to their advantage to do so; they must think of themselves as superior to the oinking masses and so must sneer at them, or somebody.

I think people who write this sort of thing have a sort of genetically programmed need to sneer. That comes first. Then they look around for something/somebody as a target. Two hundred years ago they would have been kissing ass at the royal court and sniggering at peasants, you know, the people who raised their food and carried the world on their backs.


28 posted on 08/06/2012 8:08:42 AM PDT by squarebarb
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To: Sir Napsalot

Thanks...

And, of course, there’s Michael Tomasky putting in his useless two cents. A Republican staffer defected — video at 11. Oh, and, cue the Huge Manatee.


29 posted on 08/06/2012 8:08:47 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Since Mike has spent so much time in DC maybe he’s a little lite in the “Lofgren” and therefore has an agenda of his own. I would start with checking out the “Log Cabin Republicans” membership list.


30 posted on 08/06/2012 8:08:47 AM PDT by pajama pundit (BEN KENOBI 2012 - "Our Only Hope")
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To: Sir Napsalot

“...rise of politicized religious fundamentalism may have been the key ingredient in the transformation of the Republican Party.”

Actually, my impression was the rise (beginning) of the Republican Party was from religious people against slavery. I think those who are more interested in corporate cronyism and social moderation took over after the civil war.

So in reality, the political, religious Republicans are trying to take the Republican Party back to it’s roots - just my take on the situation.


31 posted on 08/06/2012 8:09:34 AM PDT by texteacher
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To: Sir Napsalot

The Democrats have essentially become godless communists- atheism is part and parcel of leftwing ideology. As such, real opposition needs to be arrayed against them. The days when the GOP Establishment can compromise with them and then go hang out at the country club need to be over- too much has been lost already. People like the author of this article who imagine themselves to be “intellectual” because they have no core values or believe in negotiation with evil need to be extirpated from the GOP, instead of running it.


32 posted on 08/06/2012 8:10:45 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Poor Mike is so addled that he is hallucinating that he has been a Republican. Will some one please call the Dims to come and take him home?
33 posted on 08/06/2012 8:11:08 AM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Obama's plans not working? Gimme a break! You think the mess we are in happened by accident?)
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To: Sir Napsalot
all three of the GOP’s main tenets: wealth worship, war worship, and the permanent culture war.

This person claims to have been a republican? A few names come to mind: Collins, Snowe, Jeffords, and Specter, but certainly no conservatives. I worship God, only God.

I value wealth. What I have earned is mine, and I have a moral obligation to use it with wisdom, frugality, and in accordance with God's word. What others have earned is theirs, and I am prohibited by Exodus 20 (the Ten Commandments) from coveting it or stealing it from them. Since government redistribution of wealth is morally equivalent to theft, I could not support the far left's position on progressive taxation, even if I didn't see it as harmful to the rich, the middle class, and the poor.

I certainly do not worship war. As with most republicans and all conservatives, I believe war is in general a very bad thing. However, I also believe there are times when all other options are even worse than war. In those situations, I believe there is a moral obligation to fight to win decisively. I believe the best way to prevent war is by preparing to fight successfully, if necessary.

I'm amused at attributing the culture war to republicans. I do not believe that abortion should ever have been a federal issue. While abortion is a disgusting moral act, it is outside the scope of enumerated federal powers, and the Supreme Court should have left the issue at the state level, but liberals pushed it into the spotlight. Similarly, I agree with the position that Obama claimed to hold on gay "marriage" (until May of this year when Obama changed his position and liberals declared declared those who failed to evolve in favor of gay "marriage" at the moment that Obama did to he hateful). Drugs? I have known quite a few people who used illegal drugs, and I cannot name even one whose life is better because of those drugs. I have mixed feelings on drug laws, but as a moral issue, dealing drugs and encouraging others to use drugs are clearly immoral.

34 posted on 08/06/2012 8:11:08 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sir Napsalot

The problem with these articles is the lack of acknowledgement that that movement of religious people to the GOP is as much a defensive move. One can list the assaults on tradition and people’s faith directed by the people who took over the Democratic party in the late 60s/early 70s.


35 posted on 08/06/2012 8:12:10 AM PDT by C19fan
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To: Sir Napsalot
They wouldn't have have a problem with the Christian right if they hadn't kept poking them with a sharp stick; if they'd had a little live and let live about them

A Christian might think you're going to Hell; he might even try to warn you about it, but as long as you are not harming other people or society, he'll let you go there in your own way. God will do the same.

36 posted on 08/06/2012 8:12:30 AM PDT by chesley (God's chosen instrument - the trumpet)
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To: Sir Napsalot
This can be also titled: "Humanist Democrat Leftist Pseudo-Veteran Republican claim....."
37 posted on 08/06/2012 8:13:01 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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To: Sir Napsalot

He’s right.


38 posted on 08/06/2012 8:13:45 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: Sir Napsalot

I reserve the right to be religious.


39 posted on 08/06/2012 8:13:50 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Siri: Gold Baby, Gold!)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Sounds like this guy would like it if a lot of people left the gop and start a third party.


40 posted on 08/06/2012 8:14:25 AM PDT by Terry Mross (To my kin & former friends: Don't contact me if you still love obama- We got nothing to talk about)
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To: Sir Napsalot

Sounds like a guy who preferred the permanent minority status of the 1970’s.


41 posted on 08/06/2012 8:16:02 AM PDT by NeoCaveman ("If I had a son he'd look like B.O.'s lunch" - Rin Tin Tin)
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To: Sir Napsalot

This dude is stupid. Religion has nothing to do with the “destruction” of his party, but the corruption of establishment.

Progressists are like the door to hell, they do not kick you out, they drag you in like demons who want your flesh. It’s a perception thing. Obviously this dude has no clue and would jump right in.


42 posted on 08/06/2012 8:16:40 AM PDT by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucified)
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To: Sir Napsalot
Although we can all think of Republicans that would say such things; how do we know for a FACT that the author just didn't make this up? 'Sources say, insiders, the grapevine'...

Give us a name, or it is simply BS.

43 posted on 08/06/2012 8:18:13 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: BigCinBigD

About what, is he right?


44 posted on 08/06/2012 8:19:33 AM PDT by beandog (All Aboard the Choo Choo Train to Crazy Town)
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To: Sir Napsalot

this must be light in the loafers Mehlman. One who was responsible for gutting the spine of the GOP and giving us closseted RINOs.


45 posted on 08/06/2012 8:22:08 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Sir Napsalot
"I am a lifelong Republican, but..."
Blah, blah, blah. Right off the bat you know the guy is a liar. He's a Democrat.

...and hostility to science

Lemme guess... Lofgren is a "global warming" scammer? I am also guessing Lofgren is a homosexual.

By the way, "Longtime congressional staffer" = the ultimate DC parasite. The guy just loves big government. Party, philosophy, ideology, and principles have absolutley nothing to do with being a "congressional staffer". As far as claiming to be a traitorous "Republican insider", Lofgren sure found the magic potion for his "15 minutes of fame", as there will be no shortage of TV appearances, laughter, and champagne toasts in the Democrat "mainstream" newsrooms. .

46 posted on 08/06/2012 8:23:51 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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"a senior analyst on the House and Senate Budget committees"

Yep, definitely part of the problem.

47 posted on 08/06/2012 8:24:40 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Sir Napsalot
All around us now is a prevailing anti-intellectualism and hostility to science.

Quite true, and the "hostility and anti-intellectualism" is emanating from those who deny the existence of God.

The principle of causality and the harmonious order of the natural world provide basic and obvious scientific proof that the universe is more than the result of the blind blunderings of unconscious natural forces.

48 posted on 08/06/2012 8:26:27 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Sir Napsalot
"Should Republicans succeed in obstructing the Senate from doing its job,...."

Harry Reid, the purported pedophile, has already done that for the last 3 years. No need for Republicans, at all.

49 posted on 08/06/2012 8:30:15 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
I'm banking on the unnamed "veteran Republican," is Colin Powell, that Republican who endorsed Barack Obama!

Actually, this so-called "veteran Republican" is David Brooks.

50 posted on 08/06/2012 8:40:55 AM PDT by zerosix (native sunflower)
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