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Rand Paul’s best days as a presidential hopeful might be behind him
The Washington Post's The Fix ^ | September 30, 2014 | Aaron Blake

Posted on 09/30/2014 1:52:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Sen. Rand Paul's best window for winning the 2016 Republican presidential nomination increasingly looks like it has passed.

A lot can happen over the next 18 months, but the renewed focus on foreign policy -- and more specifically, the Islamic State -- has reminded the Republican Party where its true views on international affairs lie.

And it is decidedly not with non-interventionists like Paul (R-Ky.).

A new poll from CNN/Opinion Research is the best we've seen to date bearing out this point. The poll asks Americans to identify themselves as either hawks or doves -- hawks being someone "who believes that military force should be used frequently to promote U.S. policy" and doves being those who think "the U.S. should rarely or never use military force."

Overall, it's close, with 50 percent picking the doves and 45 percent picking the hawks.

Among Republicans, though, it is decidedly not close. About seven in 10 (69 percent) say they are hawks, while just one-quarter (25 percent) side with the doves. That's nearly three-to-one....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Issues; Parties; Polls; U.S. Senate
KEYWORDS: 2016; lping; randpaul; ronpaul
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1 posted on 09/30/2014 1:52:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Pauls need to go on a looooooong vacation


2 posted on 09/30/2014 1:53:50 PM PDT by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: rrrod

Agree, both are as mad as a public toilet rat


3 posted on 09/30/2014 1:55:53 PM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Rand Paul’s best days as a presidential hopeful might be behind him

Word.


4 posted on 09/30/2014 1:56:05 PM PDT by 867V309 (Crusade: the only solution.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Does not look like all that GOPe boot licking did Paul any good.


5 posted on 09/30/2014 1:56:08 PM PDT by tennmountainman (True conservatives don't like being rained on by their own party!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rand is a rino, buh bye rand.


6 posted on 09/30/2014 1:56:48 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (We are sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo screwed!)
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To: rrrod

I thought that was what their campaigns amounted to.


7 posted on 09/30/2014 1:57:24 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I leaning toward Cruz, but I am not about to write Rand Paul off, and certainly not after this "friendly" heads-up from the leading trustee of the Captive Press.
8 posted on 09/30/2014 1:57:27 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Sen. Rand Paul's best window for winning the 2016 Republican presidential nomination increasingly looks like it has passed.

The odium of the RatPost rises like incense around the herms of Rand and his daddy .....

Disagree with them if you like (and I do), still, the spite and venom of people like this is a huge encomium worthy of inscription on their tombstones.

9 posted on 09/30/2014 1:57:53 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house, the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Actually the libertarian “non-interventionalist” stance (which Paul has backed off from) does not really bother me with respect to ISIS.

There’s no friggin way we need to put boots on the ground, lose 3 thousand or more Ameican lives and spend another trillion dollars just to futilely chase sand monkeys around the desert.

Like we’ve been doing for the last 12 years.


10 posted on 09/30/2014 1:59:43 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Paul started promoting himself but he seemed incoherent and floundering, over the last two years he has been all over the place, and at times just baffling as he almost spoke in gibberish with his “thousands of exceptions” as reasons for legal abortion, and ignoring “gay marriage” becoming legal for a few years or so, to eventually win the argument?

Just weird stuff.


11 posted on 09/30/2014 1:59:46 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope so.


12 posted on 09/30/2014 2:00:03 PM PDT by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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“There’s no friggin way we need to put boots on the ground”

With the border virtually wide open you won’t need to put boots on the ground overseas to fight them. They will be in your back yard so you can fight them here thanks to Obama’s policies.


13 posted on 09/30/2014 2:04:45 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: Parley Baer

Ditto that.

And with the (bleeps) in Washington even too scared to call what happened in Moore, OK a terrorist attack, its very clear that the enemy is within our walls, but the leaders won’t admit it.


14 posted on 09/30/2014 2:10:00 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Rand Paul supports using the military to destroy ISIS. HE supports arming the Kurds, and working with Arab governments who oppose ISIS. He just doesn’t support training and arming more “moderate” jihadis, and trying to overthrow the one secular government that is actually doing the heavy fighting against ISIS right now (Assad). How is that non-interventionist? How is the GOP-e supporting Obama’s plan to train and equip a puny force of 5,000 jihadis, currently allied with ISIS, to fight ISIS going to work?


15 posted on 09/30/2014 2:11:03 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Hugin

Rand Paul’s become acceptably hawkish for a prospective GOP nominee, says … John McCain
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3209262/posts


16 posted on 09/30/2014 2:16:44 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: rockabyebaby

Rand Paul supports amnesty.

He can join Marco Rubio in the land of losers.

Screw the base, and you lose.


17 posted on 09/30/2014 2:20:40 PM PDT by Oak Grove (H)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Please let it be so.


18 posted on 09/30/2014 2:21:47 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Early on I thought Rand has potential, did not take long to discover he nothing more than a political grifter, just wanting to participate in the grand scam.


19 posted on 09/30/2014 2:29:03 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe the Gospel: how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again)
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To: PoloSec

The nut doesn’t fall very far from the tree.


20 posted on 09/30/2014 2:31:19 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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