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Hold That Fork: Donald Trump Soaring in Iowa
Mediaite ^ | September 22, 2015 | Tommy Christopher

Posted on 09/23/2015 12:54:12 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There’s been a whole lot of talk recently about how Donald Trump‘s ride at the top of the Republican primary field may finally be over, blunted by Carly Fiorina‘s star-making debate performance and Trump’s own poor performance. The mainstream media types who just refuse to believe that Republican voters actually are the way every poll proves they are got a little bit of good news this week when a CNN/ORC poll showed that Trump’s support had dropped by eight points, while Carly Fiorina shot up by 12, passing Ben Carson for second place. See? Maybe Republicans aren’t so racist after all (even though they’re ditching their one black candidate for a white lady who ruins businesses).

The momentary slide in Trump’s support has led to a whole new round of speculation that Trump has peaked:

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Not so fast, there, Skippy. According to a new poll out of Iowa, also taken after last week’s debate, Trump’s support has increased by over a quarter, while Carson kept pace and Fiorina saw a milder three-point bump:

PPP’s new Iowa poll finds Donald Trump continuing to lead in the state with 24% to 17% for Ben Carson, and 13% for Carly Fiorina.

After the first debate, Trump was at 19% in Iowa, to Carson’s 12% and Fiorina’s 10%.

Now, people have a tendency to see what they want to in polls, and if I’m keeping it 100, I really want to see Trump rebound from that debate performance because it will prove me right. To be fair, though, I have been right about Trump every single step of the way. So, here’s what I said minutes after that second debate:

The biggest gainer here was Carly Fiorina, who showed a lot of strength steamrolling the moderators’ time limits and played very well with the audience. Trump’s performance is probably a wash, but he hurt Bush a few times.

The results of the CNN poll bear that out, with Trump taking a slight hit and Fiorina rising. Then, I said that the racist town hall guy who started this renewed anti-Islam crusade among GOP frontrunners was going to rescue Trump from his bad debate juju. This Iowa poll is the first one released that took place after that incident, and it appears to prove me correct. It also shows that those five points that Trump gained are exactly the amount that Jeb Bush lost.

That New Hampshire incident is practically ancient history now, though, because a lot has happened in the interim. How will that all play out in next week’s polls? The short answer is more Trump.

First, Carly Fiorina will be lucky to see her support hold steady, but it will probably slip a little. Since the debate, all of the discussion about Fiorina (aside from her jump in the polls) has been about what a terrible CEO she was while her company was doing business with Iran. Much, much worse than that, though, was Fiorina’s contribution to the current Donald Trump/Ben Carson Muslim bash-off. On Monday night, she told Jimmy Fallon that Carson was “wrong” to say that a Muslim should never be president, and even had something nice to say about the Muslim faith:

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“I think that’s wrong. It says in our Constitution that religion cannot be a test for office.”

“…whether it’s a person of Christian faith or Jewish faith or Muslim faith or other faiths, I think faith gives us humility, empathy and optimism, and I think those are important things.”

You would be fine with that?

“Yes, I would be fine with that.”

The line got a huge round of applause from the audience, but it will hurt Fiorina with a Republican electorate that is overwhelmingly hostile to Muslims. In that new Iowa poll, in fact, less than half of Republican voters even think the religion of Islam should be legal in the United States.

That’s why Ben Carson and Donald Trump will be fighting it out to see who can gain the most support for slamming Muslims this week. Carson jumped out ahead by saying that a Muslim should never be president, but Trump earns points for repeatedly conflating Islam with terrorism, even as he sort of walked back his support for Carson’s comments. Breaking the tie is the fact that Trump also managed to get in a dig at President Obama in the process.

The other factor that will have Trump rising in the polls again next week is Governor Scott Walker’s (R-WI) announcement that he’s dropping out of the race, in which he told reporters that God had called on him to quit so that someone else could beat Donald Trump. Whatever angry white voters are still up for grabs will flock to Trump’s side rather than allow the “cuckservative” establishment to try and neuter him.

What I foresee, then, is a consolidation of the hostile Republicans (which is most of them) around Trump, some slippage for Fiorina, a slight rebound for Carson, and some movement at the establishment bottom toward Marco Rubio. Trump isn’t done yet, not by a damn sight.


TOPICS: California; Florida; Iowa; New York; Wisconsin; Campaign News; Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: 2016election; amnesty; bencarson; california; carlyfiorina; carson; election2016; fioina; florida; iowa; jebbush; marcorubio; mediaite; newyork; rubio; scottwalker; tommychristopher; trump; wisconsin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But Kraut and Co said he was finished and there would be a long fall for him? How can these polls be so wrong? Guess Meg is going to have another week of Trump bashing.

Pray America is waking


21 posted on 09/23/2015 5:17:28 AM PDT by bray (If Obama had a son he would be a cop killer.)
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To: RightGuy

And the cherry on top....NBC/SurveyMonkey also said that Trump was the most Presidential last Wednesday nite.


22 posted on 09/23/2015 5:19:37 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Mach9

ISLAM is not a religion. It is a government system.
The U.S. Constitution is a government system.

Islam is a world government of tyranny and terrorism.
The U.S. Constitution is a government of freedom and love.

This conversation must continue.

“Quran vs U.S. Constitution: Why They’re Incompatible”
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3339799/posts


23 posted on 09/23/2015 5:21:02 AM PDT by stars & stripes forever (Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: grania

The establishment is incapable of understanding what they have created with their total contempt for We the People.
Trump is the last best hope for a bloodless revolution. if he is brought down by the political establishment through their typical chicanery there will be blood on the WH lawn.
There are scenarios in which a Trump loss is acceptable. None of these include Jeb’s coronation.
Trump might simply self immolate, possible but not likely.
Trump might resign in favor of Cruz, possible but not likely. They need each other.
Trump might be forced to withdraw for completely personal reasons. The specter of villainy would dominate the landscape.
There is an ice cold rage in the land made deeper by the wisdom and understanding of We the People that evil men are in control of our society.


24 posted on 09/23/2015 5:52:17 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Rodney Dangerfield

“The Donald continues to defy his detractors.”

His detractors think Americans want foreigners to be held in higher value than Americans and that America must have communism. This includes the uniparty of the eGOP and the Democrats.

We Americans want American to win and Americans to be first.


25 posted on 09/23/2015 5:59:22 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Mach9

I dislike Islam as much as anyone, and honestly think Satan pulled a fast on one ole Muhammad.

But the fact is most committed Christians would put God before country if they were prioritizing, that doesn’t mean they want a theocracy though.


26 posted on 09/23/2015 6:06:35 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: Bullish; Charles Henrickson

WINNING!!!


27 posted on 09/23/2015 6:15:04 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (DUmmie Skinner: Bought & Paid For By Hillary)
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To: Reno89519

Michael Medved was touting fiorina as the leader in polls last night...


28 posted on 09/23/2015 6:23:21 AM PDT by goodnesswins (hey..Wussie Americans....ISIS is coming. Are you ready?)
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To: Louis Foxwell
There is an ice cold rage in the land made deeper by the wisdom and understanding of We The People that evil men are in control of our society.

It's not just in the US. Where ever people begin to challenge the status quo, the venom is released. Economic warfare against the masses, internal chaos being enabled, and now huge migrations being used to overwhelm native populations. Next step....subjugation and for and practical purposes enslavement.

Is it intentional manipulation to a downward fate for the masses? Well, yeah. Makes one suspect there really is an Illuminati that intends to keep writing the rules, doesn't it?

29 posted on 09/23/2015 6:31:57 AM PDT by grania
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To: stars & stripes forever

“ISLAM is not a religion. It is a government system.”

If we let them, Islam will accomplish what the Nazis tried to do.


30 posted on 09/23/2015 6:42:12 AM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: joshua c

I’m waiting for the day that the media starts defending the Nazis as they do Islam.


31 posted on 09/23/2015 8:18:37 AM PDT by georgiegirl
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Nevertheless, God IS prioritized. “One nation UNDER God.” Our founders expected us to be guided by biblical ethics, and much of our law and culture (our civic behavior) is based on or influenced by the ten commandments along with the second of the two great commandments (”love thy neighbor as thyself”), and only slightly less on the eight beatitudes.


32 posted on 09/23/2015 8:43:32 AM PDT by Mach9
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

——>Gobsmacked<-—


33 posted on 09/23/2015 8:47:01 AM PDT by going hot
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To: RightGuy

Or the Morning Consult Poll which has Trump at about 32%. Not too shabby.


34 posted on 09/23/2015 8:50:39 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The constitution was founded on Christian principles.

A Christian president does not have to change his beliefs to comply with the constitution.


35 posted on 09/23/2015 8:52:03 AM PDT by Amntn
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To: Louis Foxwell

“The establishment is incapable of understanding what they have created with their total contempt for We the People.”

And they don’t care, either. They only care about money and power. Nothing else matters.


36 posted on 09/23/2015 3:21:33 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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