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The GOP delegate fight explained
The Hill ^ | April 10, 2016 | Niall Stanage

Posted on 04/10/2016 10:24:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

As the Republican presidential race moves toward its closing stages, more and more attention is being focused on the race for delegates.

It is that contest that will decide whether front-runner Donald Trump can become the GOP nominee or whether someone else — his closest rival Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) or perhaps some compromise candidate who has not participated in the primaries — can wrest the prize away from him.

Many elements of the delegate race are complex and confusing. Here, we try to answer the most frequently asked questions.

What are the basics?

There are expected to be 2,472 delegates to the Republican National Convention, which will be held in Cleveland from July 18-21. Their votes will decide who becomes the GOP’s presidential nominee. That means the support of 1,237 delegates is needed in order to win the nomination.

Where do things stand right now?

According to the Associated Press’s delegate tracker, businessman Donald Trump has 743 delegates, Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) has 532 delegates and Ohio Gov. John Kasich has 143 delegates. They are the only major candidates still in the race.

However, Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.), who suspended his campaign last month, has 171 delegates — more of which later.

So what does that all mean?

Trump is the only candidate with a legitimate shot at reaching the magic number of 1,237 by the time the final Republican primaries are held on June 7. For him, reaching that goal is tough but plausible. He would need to win well over 60 percent of the 769 delegates who are still up for grabs in the contests that remain.

What happens if he fails?

Fun for the news media and armchair pundits; chaos and tension for Republicans. The candidates would arrive at the convention with the identity of the nominee in doubt for the first time since 1976. On that occasion, incumbent President Gerald Ford held off a challenge from Ronald Reagan and his supporters.

So…?

The theory is simple enough at the outset. The delegates will vote. If no one has an outright majority on the first ballot, there will then be a second ballot and, if necessary a third, a fourth and so on, until someone wins a majority.

Couldn't that go on forever?

In 1924, Democrats selected John W. Davis as their standard-bearer — on the 103rd ballot. They went to all that trouble in vain, too: Davis lost to Calvin Coolidge in the general election.

But seriously, how will it end?

No one really knows. But one key distinction is whether delegates are bound or unbound.

Explain.

Although we say that each candidate “has won” a certain number of delegates, that’s actually a generalization. They don’t necessarily belong to the candidate. They may not even, on a personal level, like the candidate. They tend to be local organizers and party loyalists who earn their ticket to Cleveland via winning local, county and state-level elections. Since most modern conventions have simply served to rubber-stamp clear verdicts delivered by the voters in primaries, the issue of the delegates’ personal preferences has been largely irrelevant. This year, it isn’t — unless Trump reaches 1,237 of course.

But the bound and unbound thing…?

At the first ballot, around 95 percent of the delegates will be “bound.” That means they are obligated to vote for the candidate to whom their support has been allotted via the results of the primary or caucus in their state. Trump is virtually assured of winning a strong plurality on that first ballot. But, assuming he fails to win an outright majority, he could be in a much weaker position on subsequent ballots.

Why?

Because in many states, delegates are bound only for the first ballot. By some estimates, the proportion of total delegates falls from about 95 percent on the first ballot to 25 percent on the second ballot. And that process continues. California’s delegates, for example, are bound for the first two ballots but are then free to vote as they please. In the winner-take-all state of Florida, its 99 delegates are bound to the primary winner — Trump — for the first three ballots.

But will delegates who become unbound always change their minds?

No. A delegate originally bound to support Trump or Cruz could stick with him till the bitter end. And that’s why the campaigns are now furiously trying to make sure that as many genuine supporters as possible get chosen at state conventions as delegates. If the delegate genuinely supports the candidate to whom he or she is bound, then them being unbound will make no difference.

Conversely, though, once delegates are unbound, they could just throw Trump overboard and vote for someone else?

Theoretically, yes. But whether such a move is truly feasible is a more difficult question. Let’s assume Trump gets around 1,200 delegates but falls short of 1,237. He would no doubt claim to be the moral victor of the primary process, and he would have a strong case. In that kind of scenario, many experts think it is more likely that enough delegates would back Trump to put him over the top, rather than risk a potentially chaotic multi-ballot fight — and the danger of being seen as thwarting the will of voters.

So Trump needs to make the case that he’s the obvious winner. How does Cruz overcome that?

Partly by asserting that Trump would be a catastrophic choice as the nominee in the general election. Cruz is also running a well-organized operation to get as many true supporters as possible elected as delegates. He has enjoyed some success this week in Colorado, for example. Basically, Colorado elects delegates directly, not through a binding primary or caucus. Those delegates are technically unbound so the more actual supporters a candidate can get elected, the better for them.

What about those Rubio delegates? They could be crucial, couldn’t they?

Yes, they could. And what happens to them varies from state to state. There is considerable confusion about their status. In some states, delegates won by a candidate who has suspended his campaign are regarded as unbound. Rubio has written to some state Republican parties asking that his delegates not be released. But, although Rubio could recommend that his delegates back someone else, there would be no real obligation on them to do so.

Anything else?

Yes. All the rules could get changed before the convention starts, making everything you’ve just read irrelevant.

What?

The rules for each convention are ultimately decided at the convention itself. In 2012, for example, a rule was passed stating that a candidate could only have their name placed in nomination if they had won a majority of the delegates in eight or more states. At the time, this was widely seen as an effort to thwart possible machinations from supporters of then-Rep. Ron Paul (Texas). But the rule — Rule 40 — is a leading contender to be changed, since it would seem to limit the number of alternatives to Trump who could be put forward. Right now, no one else would qualify, although Cruz might well get across the threshold by the time the primaries end.

But all of the rules could be changed?

Technically, yes. For example, the rules could be changed to enable delegates to immediately unbind themselves. This isn’t so outlandish as it sounds — on the other side of the partisan divide, supporters of then-Sen. Edward Kennedy tried this maneuver in 1980, aiming to oust sitting President Jimmy Carter as the Democratic nominee. The Kennedy effort failed, however, and any similar effort would be hugely controversial among Republicans this year. Trump has already predicted there could be riots if he fails to win the nomination.


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1 posted on 04/10/2016 10:24:21 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’s not over till the fat lady sings.


2 posted on 04/10/2016 10:27:04 PM PDT by period end of story (Give me a firm spot, and I will move the world.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You oughtta join the Trump Train, Vetsy. There's more benefits than just being on the winning team:


3 posted on 04/10/2016 10:27:22 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (It's them or us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I gotta give it to you. Yor’re in there 24/7 finding anti Trump crap. I hope he goes 3rd party and ruins your fun.


4 posted on 04/10/2016 10:37:11 PM PDT by teletech
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To: teletech

I gotta give it to you. You’re in there 24/7 finding anti Trump crap. I hope he goes 3rd party and ruins your fun.

Trump would ruin it anyway!!!


5 posted on 04/10/2016 10:44:28 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trumpkins don’t care they want to write their own rules..


6 posted on 04/10/2016 10:45:33 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: teletech

Seriously! Just imagine if 2DV channeled all of his negative energy toward the GOPe (the real enemy) instead of Trump.


7 posted on 04/10/2016 10:47:01 PM PDT by orangeTank
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To: tallyhoe
Trump would ruin it anyway!!!

Well, if its stolen from him we will never know will we.

8 posted on 04/10/2016 10:47:17 PM PDT by teletech
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To: teletech
The video that explains and Open Convention (aka Brokered Convention) has this little tidbit at the 1:36 min mark....

"The majority of delegates are elected by people that show up to their respective state party conventions or caucuses. They can also be elected at the same time that a voter casts his or her ballot for the presidential candidate of their choice. All of these decisions are governed by state party rules."

Video here: RNC / GOP Explanation of Open Convention

So our Primary votes mean very, very, very little in the grand scheme of things.

9 posted on 04/10/2016 10:51:35 PM PDT by BagCamAddict (#NeverHillary)
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To: orangeTank
.. Just imagine if 2DV channeled all of his negative energy toward the GOPe (the real enemy) instead of Trump ..

Mr Soros would spank him so hard?

10 posted on 04/10/2016 10:54:07 PM PDT by Byron_the_Aussie (It's them or us.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Framers hated the very idea of political parties for the very reasons we’re witnessing today. It’s why you don’t see a single mention of them in our Constitution. They’re an evil that allows small groups of well placed and powerful people to hijack and usurp the powers bestowed upon The People by our forebears.

Screw the parties and their goddamned ‘rules’. Those ‘rules’ only bind the common man, and empower the elites, who have been working to overthrow the Constitution and The People from the very inception of this country.


11 posted on 04/10/2016 11:00:52 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: tallyhoe

“Trumpkins don’t care they want to write their own rules.”

The only ‘rules’ I’m bound to respect, are those found in the Constitution. The two major political parties are an abomination, and their ‘rules’ are nothing more than artificial constraints on the powers bequeathed to The People by the Framers.


12 posted on 04/10/2016 11:06:38 PM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: teletech
It's looking like third party, in which no official of any other party is ever allowed to join, is the real answer.

If the disenfranchised of the uniparty branches join together, the scam is over.

13 posted on 04/10/2016 11:06:47 PM PDT by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: Windflier

Very well said! Cheers.


14 posted on 04/10/2016 11:08:38 PM PDT by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: Windflier

http://fredoneverything.org/it-cometh-from-the-pitand-hath-a-knout/


15 posted on 04/10/2016 11:10:16 PM PDT by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wracking my brain trying to figure out how this excellent explanation is an anti-tRump post, especially with the statement that he is very likely to win on the first ballot at GOP convention.

Seems there’s just no pleasing some folks.


16 posted on 04/10/2016 11:13:17 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (You say "potato," I say "make mine with everything, please!")
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To: tallyhoe

If Trump supporters want their own rules, maybe they should start their own party. They loudly proclaim how much they hate Republicans, why should they get to choose the Republican candidate?


17 posted on 04/10/2016 11:13:53 PM PDT by MNMom
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To: teletech

What’s anti-Trump about the article? It’s just explaining the delegate situation.


18 posted on 04/10/2016 11:19:37 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Theresawithanh
Well Cruz will not be picking up much in NY. He just got booed in the Bronx. California doesn't like him very much.

It's really just a statement of fact.

19 posted on 04/10/2016 11:21:47 PM PDT by Bogie (Just a coincidence?)
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To: tallyhoe

If he goes third party, everyone’s “fun” will be ruined. Aside from the progressives, of course.


20 posted on 04/10/2016 11:23:01 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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